User talk:AnomieBOT

Translation on "Tas"

Hello, I made a translation of the Hungarian article on the tribal leader "Tas" to English. However, I get the warning "Automatic edit filters have identified problematic content in your translation. Filter hit: Content Translation Edits". Did I do something wrong, or how can I submit it? Gibby01 (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Gibby01, this is the talk page of a bot, so I don't think you'll get the type of response you're expecting. You might want to try the Teahouse or VPT. Primefac (talk) 07:59, 12 October 2022 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Conversion of Paul the Apostle‎

Thanks for your edit on this article - good to know somebody will clear up after me when I screw up. (Don't understand why I can't just click "thanks" there.) Doric Loon (talk) 10:04, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

@Doric Loon: Because it's a bot. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:19, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Not dating expert tags

AnomieBOT does not appear to be properly adding dates to {{Expert needed}} tags (such as at 1969 Philippine balance of payments crisis), even though the template is properly listed at WP:AWB/DT * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Hmmm, it's been undated since July 2021. Perhaps it's because |date= is present but blank? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:26, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

It's because {{Expert needed}} with no date is not putting the page in any category that's a direct subcategory of Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month and Category:Wikipedia categories sorted by month, so the bot never knows to look at the article. If the task looks at it for some other reason (e.g. an undated {{citation needed}}), it would date the {{Expert needed}} too. Looks like I had tried to fix that back in 2011, but someone reverted it soon after. Anomie⚔ 22:45, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

The reverter has gone mostly inactive now. I've added it back, and we'll see if anyone else objects. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:23, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Comments in TFA title

This comment broke TFA Protector Bot because it was expecting to be able to use the page text as a literal title without any other processing. Is that a bad assumption? Could AnomieBOT remove comments like this, or is it the source of them? I've never seen this before, though we only recently implemented stricter title validation in the Rust library the bot uses. Legoktm (talk) 00:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Ah, it came from here. So yeah, if AnomieBOT could strip that, it would be appreciated :-) Legoktm (talk) 00:29, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Sigh. Why do people have to do stupid stuff?  Done Anomie⚔ 01:28, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you :D Legoktm (talk) 06:07, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

whoops, sorry about that, Legoktm and Anomie! i had not realized that placing comments within the tfafull template would break some code. thanks for cleaning up the mess that i made! dying (talk) 07:05, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Comments about the article Khimo Gumatay

Hello AnomieBOT, I would like to appeal about the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khimo_Gumatay, yes it was deleted last September 18, 2022. But this new article I have created is different from that one. Please be guided. Troy26Castillo (talk) 11:29, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

I am not also the one who created that deleted article about Khimo Gumatay last September 18, 2022. I hope you may consider my appeal. Troy26Castillo (talk) 11:30, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

hello Dreamy Jazz, this is regarding about the article about Khimo Gumatay that I have created today (October 27, 2022). There was one article of the same name but different author that has been deleted last September 18, 2022. I am aware of the article that has been deleted but I am surprised why the deletion has been tagged on the new article being created as of today. Troy26Castillo (talk) 11:37, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

My apologies that I have to tagged you Dreamy Jazz, SeanJ 2007 on this matter, but I believe you have to know also these concerns. Troy26Castillo (talk) 11:42, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

This template is simply there to indicate it was previously deleted. The subject of the article is the one that was previously deleted so it doesn't seem misplaced. Also AnomieBOT is a automated bot account. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 12:06, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Okey, thank you. Troy26Castillo (talk) 13:01, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

TemplateSubster: Template:Uw-ublock has too many transclusions

* Note that TFD substitutions should now be done via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster rather than by (ab)using TemplateSubster!

In an effort to prevent disruption, I refuse to subst templates that have over 100 transclusions unless they are listed at User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Please either edit the template to remove it from Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, manually subst the existing transclusions, or add it to User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force to let me know it is OK to subst them. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 23:28, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Undeletion request for the redirect page UTV Software Communications Ltd.

Hey, the bot AnomieBOT III deleted the redirect page UTV Software Communications Ltd. because it was a broken redirect to UTV Software Communications, which has since been a redirect to The Walt Disney Company India. I suggest someone undelete the redirect page UTV Software Communications Ltd. and retarget that redirect page to The Walt Disney Company India because UTV Software Communications is a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company India and UTV Software Communications Ltd. is the limited liability name of UTV Software Communications. From Bas. Bassie f (talk) 05:27, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Nigeria

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Nigeria, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about nationsencyclopedia.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Nigeria revision 1121424592:
  • Rescued "Nigeria agriculture2" from rev 1121421715
    Removed in revision 1121423975 by CactiStaccingCrane (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "remove self-pub and blacklist sources, archive some links" (added 126/214925 bytes, 0%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 06:50, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

I need edit to list of hood films 174.247.253.208 (talk) 10:06, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Anomie Bot III

WP:BAM says AnomieBot III hasn't run since 2 November 2022. Just a heads up that it might need a reset or something. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:40, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Nope, it's running. Humans have just beaten it to deleting every broken redirect since that point. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:56, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Confirmed. Sometimes humans watch User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects to get the ones AnomieBOT is waiting on, and if there happens to be database replication lag to ToolForge (I don't know if there was recently) then AnomieBOT might not see new redirects as quickly. Anomie⚔ 14:23, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

This is a comment, not a criticism, but if a bot is set up to do The Thing, I see little point in also doing The Thing like it is some sort of race. Primefac (talk) 18:13, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Personally I don't mind it. The bot can't apply human judgement in edge cases, like if something is an obvious typo. The bot is intentionally slow in some cases specifically for this reason. Anomie⚔ 14:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

TemplateSubster: Template:WikiProject UK Roads has too many transclusions

* Note that TFD substitutions should now be done via User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster rather than by (ab)using TemplateSubster!

In an effort to prevent disruption, I refuse to subst templates that have over 100 transclusions unless they are listed at User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force. Please either edit the template to remove it from Category:Wikipedia templates to be automatically substituted, manually subst the existing transclusions, or add it to User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force to let me know it is OK to subst them. Possibly added by User:Imzadi1979 at 2022-11-28T20:45:14Z. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 21:15, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Imzadi1979, is this sort of thing really what you want, or did you want to change the template so that it substitutes cleanly first? – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

There are enough transclusions for me to hit it with my bot and avoid the awkward subst, but this template has been stable since 2016 so I would like to see consensus to get rid of the template entirely first. Primefac (talk) 13:26, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

spreading problems around

In the Anuradha Koirala article, an anonymous user made an edit that injected a bunch of prose into the name of an existing reference. AnomieBOT came along and copied that text into another invocation of the same reference name.

Are AnomieBOT's edits monitored? It seems like they should be, becuase it often makes referencing errors worse. Any human editor would've propertly fixed it, but since the bot quickly buried the issue, the problem was hidden for months. -- Mikeblas (talk) 18:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome to volunteer for the job. The actions taken under that task are logged to User:AnomieBOT/OrphanReferenceFixer log for your reviewing convenience. Anomie⚔ 23:20, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm already doing that job, like most other editors on wikipeida who find themselves cleaning up after the bot. Is there a reason that the bot can't be tested so that it doesn't make disruptive edits? Your tone suggests you believe the bot is beyond question. -- Mikeblas (talk) 17:39, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

If you bring me actual bugs or concrete suggestions for improvement, I'll consider them. If you just whine about every case where the bot doesn't behave perfectly or isn't a human-level AI, I won't have much to say to you. Anomie⚔ 13:48, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

injection of irrelevant references

AnomieBOT claimed to rescue orphaned refs in the Harry Styles discography article. What it actually did was inject a completely irrelevant reference into the article. This fixes an error that humans might have otherwise noticed and correctly fixed, so the bot seems to have a negative overall effect.

It seems like edits like these mdae by the bot are just left to chance and hope, and aren't proven to be correct. Shouldn't they be reviewed before being made? -- Mikeblas (talk) 18:22, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Grey-list of sources?

I recently came across an edit where AnomieBOT rescued an WP:IMDBREF. While IMDB is ok for inclusion as an WP:EL it is not ok for sourcing info as it is WP:UGC. I'm thinking there is (or should be) a list of sites that the bot won't rescue references for. Is there such and can we get IMDB added to it? Toddst1 (talk) 00:23, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

There is no such list, other than the spam blacklist. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:51, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

SPERTable broken?

I made an edit request at Talk:Yeezus, but it never showed up on the SPERTable. Is the SPERTable broken or something? 100.7.44.80 (talk) 11:07, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Looks like a bunch of AnomieBOT tasks stopped after a Toolforge database restart or something along those lines. Restarted it. Anomie⚔ 13:54, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! 100.7.44.80 (talk) 18:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Romani people

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Romani people, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about everyculture.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Romani people revision 1126840917:
  • Fixed broken references
  • Rescued "Cac" from rev 1126840748
    Removed in revision 1126840917 by 117.204.124.12 (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "removal of false information" (removed 1841/203096 bytes, 1%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 16:26, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Jacqueline Kim

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Jacqueline Kim, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about filmreference.com. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Jacqueline Kim revision 1127524365:
  • Rescued "filmr" from rev 1117683993
    Removed in revision 1127524274 by Jaequisical (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "Removed birthdate to protect against identity theft." (removed 187/7451 bytes, 3%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 08:15, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Because bots deserve some love too.

Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 23:34, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Modification for DRVClerk.pm

This task creates new DRV logpages, according to the text of Wikipedia:Deletion review/New day. But it doesn't actually take text from that page -- it's hardcoded into the script. There's been a modification to the New day page, so the script should be modified to reflect this. Obviously, it would be best if it just substed that page, but it should be at least updated to put in the different preload text.

<!-- Please notify the administrator who performed the action that you wish to be reviewed by leaving {{subst:DRVNote|page name}} on their talk page.

Add a new entry BELOW THIS LINE copying the format:
{{subst:drv2
|page     = 
|xfd_page = 
|reason   = 
}} ~~~~

For FILES, use this skeleton:
{{subst:drv2
|page     = 
|xfd_page = 
|article  = 
|reason   = 
}} ~~~~
-->

That's what the New day page says now. jp×g 04:14, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@JPxG: It looks like substing the New day page doesn't quite work as intended, the resulting page would say ~~<noinclude></noinclude>~~ instead of ~~~~ in two places in the comment. Also of potential concern is that the page is unprotected and probably not well watched.

Also, BTW, I wonder if there's potential for confusion now that "BELOW THIS LINE" is within the comment. It might be worth reworking it so the "BELOW THIS LINE" bit is at the very end. Anomie⚔ 13:37, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@JPxG: I'm ready to make the necessary changes to the bot, but I've been waiting to see if you had any reply to my suggestions above. Anomie⚔ 05:52, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Circular Source Addition by Bot

The bot seems to have added a source to in these revisions: [1], [2] Could you add a line to the source code that prevents the bot from restoring citations to Wikipedia itself? TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 13:11, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I am obviously not the bot operator, but this is a classic GIGO situation, and I personally think that it is better to fix an orphaned ref issue than it is to check that orphaned ref to see if it just might happen to include a self-ref. Primefac (talk) 14:24, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Further, the bot has no way of differentiating between a ref like that and a valid ref like this or this or this or this or various refs in Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident or the like. Better, as the bot informed you, for a human to have a look at it and clean up all the orphans. Anomie⚔ 16:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Fair points, thank you, how would I prevent the bot from re-adding this to the page? I didn't notice any orphaned refs. TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 19:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

If you look at your revert, you left behind <ref name="Wikipedia" /> which resulted in an error in the reference list. All that's needed is to remove the entire reference, as well as any other uses of the named reference (of which there aren't any more in that article). Anomie⚔ 19:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Aha, that explains it, thank you, sorry about this. TheManInTheBlackHat (Talk) 19:15, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

TFA title, redux

I've been thinking of MZ's comment that subpages made sense in 2010, but not 2022. What if AnomieBOT created JSON pages, with one per month or even year, and have the TFA titles keyed by YYYY-MM-DD date or similar. I think that would avoid any concerns about "complicated parsing" in the Lua side since JSON is pretty safe and fast, and still be easily machine readable for TFA Protector Bot and other tools. And hopefully the reduction in pages would annoy less people (and you can't categorize JSON pages...). Legoktm (talk) 07:25, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

If it's a single page name and date, I think yearly would be more than sufficient. I do agree this is probably a good way to split this metaphorical baby. I think there are dozens of cases where we've fount that subpages and/or dozens of pages (cite doi and the political name templates, respectively as examples) just don't make sense any more. Primefac (talk) 13:07, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

We could, sure. The JSON for all the existing data not even divided by year would be only 160K (174K with newlines and whitespace). But what all would need updating for the new system? How do we even find out? Anomie⚔ 15:24, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

I think that's mostly up to you as the bot op. I think it would be sufficient to make announcements on VPT, BON, maybe VPM, with a migration period of a month or two in which both the JSON pages and "legacy" subpages would be supported. And/or spend a few weeks creating TFA title subpages with the contents "TFA title subpages are no longer being used, please see .... instead".

I was slightly alarmed to learn that the "official" Wikipedia iOS app was using TFA title at one point, then it switched to a nodejs service and I didn't bother tracing what that was pulling from...if we go ahead with this I can look deeper into that and run some code searches to surface other potential users. Legoktm (talk) 08:27, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

If it's going to be up to me as the bot operator, I think I'll leave things how they are. Other than some people complaining about uncategorized/"unused" templates, there haven't been any problems with the current setup. Maybe I'll add a JSON version alongside it without deprecating the old system. Anomie⚔ 12:09, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

@Primefac and Legoktm: I made User:AnomieBOT II/TFA title.json to hold the JSON, but the bot can't actually edit it thanks to lacking an appropriate OAuth grant. It should be bot-editable once it gets moved out of userspace, but that will need a supplemental BRFA. Any comments on the format before I do that? One item of note, I took into account the cases mentioned at Wikipedia:Today's featured article oddities where a few times there has been more than one FA which the single-page system can't handle. Anomie⚔ 14:08, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

It seems to me like most of those outliers were manually modified. Template:TFA title/April 12, 2014 doesn't exist, yet there were still two pages that appeared on the day's TFA page. On the other hand, it looks like that was the only time that was done, and I can't figure out how they modified the values for the other dates given. Primefac (talk) 12:56, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

None of the TFA title subpages I checked had been manually modified, the bot just picked up the first one in the list and never noticed the rest. Back then the bot's logic was to find the first bolded link in the blurb, whatever that was. But what do you think, should I have the bot start maintaining a JSON page with that format too? Anomie⚔ 14:00, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Nice! My only suggestion would be to consider wrapping the items in a top-level key, so we could do something like:

{
    "help": "This page is maintained by AnomieBOT, see [[...]] for more details.",
    "titles": [
        ...
    ]
}

Having arrays for the multi-article TFAs is a nice touch.

The oddities page is interesting, I hadn't come across it before. Seems like TFA Protector Bot never protected the new TFA on Feb 14, 2021. Will have to look into that... Legoktm (talk) 03:03, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

BRFA filed Anomie⚔ 16:27, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

DreamWorks wikidata

Hi, I'm asking you a favor. Since it's impossible for us to change it, can I ask you please to remove "(1994)" from the Italian wikidata of DreamWorks? Just because the other Italian articles about important studios don't have the year of foundation in their wikidata Roby Markz (talk) 23:32, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

You seem to be lost. This page is the talk page for a bot that runs on the English Wikipedia. You probably want to be asking this somewhere of a human editor on Wikidata. Anomie⚔ 14:23, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

OrphanReferenceFixer: Blacklisted orphaned reference in Roorkee

When trying to fix orphaned refs in Roorkee, MediaWiki's spam blacklist complained about census2011.co.in. This probably means someone didn't properly clean up after themselves when blacklisting the link and removing existing uses, but a human needs to double-check it. The attempted changes were:

• Roorkee revision 1129276699:
  • Fixed broken references
  • Renamed "districtcensus" → "district census" from rev 1108329178
    Removed in revision 1129276699 by 2405:201:A004:BADA:5963:DD7E:5818:9135 (talk • contribs • logs) with comment "/* Demographics */" (added 8/23070 bytes, 0%)

You might also use {{subst:User:Anomie/uw-orphans|1=rm diff|2=fix diff}} to let the remover know, if their edit summary indicates they were specifically removing the blacklisted ref. When you have fixed this issue, please change the section title (e.g. append " - Fixed") or remove this section completely. I will repost the notice if the page is still broken or is re-broken. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 24 December 2022 (UTC)