Wikipedia talk:Short description

Redirecting less than useful descriptions to "none"

I've noticed many list articles have short descriptions like "Wikipedia list article" or "Wikimedia list article" or others, which don't really provide any value as a short description, and it seems that editors in past discussions agree. After looking through the archives, my understanding is that in the past they were better than nothing because we had not yet achieved 2 million short descriptions to remove the dependency on Wikidata.

Now that we've doubled that milestone, I think we should address these filler descriptions. Is it possible to (and is there desire to) edit the template such that when these short descriptions are entered, it behaves the same way as entering "none"? Thrakkx (talk) 22:24, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

All list article should now have a Short description of "none" — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 22:48, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Right, but I'm saying that many list articles still have manual overrides with "Wikipedia list article" or "Wikimedia list article", among others, as the short description. Thrakkx (talk) 02:54, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

You could go through here and clear them out. Who knew so many redundant short descriptions were out there...? -2pou (talk) 04:01, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Y If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly. Search now returns zero results — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 12:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Apparently my search logic sucks as that only seemed to return things with both terms. Not how I thought that OR statement would work... I clearly did something wrong. When I put the search terms individually there’s a lot more using Wikipedia and Wikimedia by themselves. -2pou (talk) 14:58, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Just 78,000 or so more. I'll get started then ... — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 15:04, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

I have been removing these slowly, manually. Would be nice if they were to be done in one fast sweep instead. I have had very few complaints so far, but you may expect to get a few if you do this en masse. And it will need to be redone regularly, as new ones are still being added. Fram (talk) 15:31, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

For that reason I am asking whether we can amend the function of {{Short description}} such that when these strings are entered, it will be the same as entering "none". That way, we don't have to edit c. 100,000 articles manually. Thrakkx (talk) 16:25, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Pretty sure that could be done fairly easily. ― Qwerfjkltalk 17:50, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

I think that would be the best course of action—just solving the issue through the template. That way, we won't have to do routine maintenance as more short descriptions are added. Thrakkx (talk) 19:28, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Just get a bot to run through them and set the SD=none. Once they are all fixed, we can easily pick up any new ones. Do not alter the template to cover up a problem with content that uses the template — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 19:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Would we need to go to bot requests for that? Thrakkx (talk) 22:36, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

For inclusion of "Wikipedia list article" for short description, it could be required or optional. --Aesthetic Writer (talk) 02:22, 12 January 2022 (UTC)Again, this is not a better solution, I should reply outdented below. --Aesthetic Writer (talk) 04:23, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

@GhostInTheMachine and Thrakkx: Does list articles might be also needed to place "Wikipedia list article" for short description? in general, for Wikipedia list articles, that should not normally need to be edited. For example, articles does not have short description for the 1960 Winter Olympic Games topic, Alpine skiing at the 1960 Winter Olympics – Men's downhill, if an article title is sufficiently detailed that an additional short description would not be helpful. --Aesthetic Writer (talk) 03:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't think you understand what SDNONE says. I would appreciate it if you stopped policing my edit history and reverting my edits. Thrakkx (talk) 14:26, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

@Thrakkx @Fram @GhostInTheMachine @2pou: I'll file a BRFA for this as soon as I finish the lowercase short description issue below (or get it down to <100). ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:43, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

BRFA filed ― Qwerfjkltalk 10:52, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

(@Jonesey95) I've run through all of these (that match prefix:"List of"). ― Qwerfjkltalk 16:34, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Automatic capitalization of first character

I'm not sure if anybody's brought it up before, but I often find myself capitalizing short descriptions drawn from Wikidata (which stipulates that the first character should be lowercase unless proper) as our MOS prefers the short descriptions be in sentence case. I wonder if there's any way they can be automatically capitalized by default, to save editors time and make everything consistent? I can't think of any cases where we wouldn't want the first letter to be uppercase. ASUKITE 19:55, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

I can't think of any cases where we wouldn't want the first letter to be uppercase.
iPhone model, for example? ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:28, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

2025 model of iPhone ? — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 20:45, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

WP:SDH already does that, although I don't see it stated in the documentation, it is mentioned on the TP. MB 20:52, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

I've never noticed. I just tested it with a random article, Hunger Wall, and viewed in mobile search to see if there was a short desc, which there wasn't. When I then imported the wikidata description, SDH did indeed correct it, so I'm glad I've learned something new at least. Mobile is still not displaying the description in search, but the cache may need to update. ASUKITE 20:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

When you can't think of any cases, sometimes it helps to do a search. Here's a search that turns up at least 5,000 articles with lower-case short descriptions. The vast majority are errors, but there is valid stuff in there, like "c. 1840 painting..." , "none", "macOS software utility...".

I estimate that 98% are errors, which makes me think that if we care about the case of the first letter, it might be worthwhile to either automate capitalization of SDs or to create a tracking category for lower-case SDs. In either case, a dedicated whitelist file could list the known exceptions, like "c. ", "iPhone", "macOS", "none", and others so that affected articles would be displayed properly or kept out of the category. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:14, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: I've started to go through these (see my contributions). My JWB search turned up at least 10,000 of these. ― Qwerfjkltalk 22:47, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

If you are including ones that come from infobox templates, {{infobox settlement}} generates a SD beginning with the settlement type. If that is "town" or "village" for example, the SD should not be overridden, the capitalization should be fixed in the infobox because it is wrong there too. MB 01:01, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

The search is the same as the one provided above, so will only catch insource short descriptions. ― Qwerfjkltalk 07:37, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: I've improved my code to do some other minor shortdesc cleanup (fixing the issues in the above section as well), and the error rate is very low (0 so far, and I've checked ~100 articles), so I'm thinking of filing a BRFA, and manually checking over for false positives (it wouldn't be too hard to add a whitelist). What do you think? ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:58, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

I think it sounds reasonable. It might be best to create a tracking category first, by modifying the template, so that the bot could have a well-defined population of pages to operate on. Do you have an exception list in your code for the items listed above, or would you depend on manually going back and reverting the bot's edits? – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:25, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

As I'm just doing insource short descriptions, the search is fine. I'll try to add an exception list soon. @MichaelMaggs: Already done ― Qwerfjkltalk 21:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: I now have a whitelist, and if necessary it can match regex. ― Qwerfjkltalk 17:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

While you are at it, maybe you could change {{short description}} to {{Short description}} ? MichaelMaggs (talk) 21:40, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: I've created a list at User:Qwerfjkl/lcSD of the pages I detected with a lowercase short description (10,303). ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:39, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

It would be useful for that list to actually show the short descriptions. Do you have any thoughts on deploying the change proposed below so that we can see if your list matches the category contents? It would also allow us to display SDs on the category page using User:SD0001/cat-all-shortdescs.js, providing an easy way to browse for additional whitelist words. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I agree a category would be much easier. My RegEx search may have timed out, so the list could be longer. ― Qwerfjkltalk 21:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Rendering all of the SDs at User:GhostInTheMachine/Test dies after about 1000 lines — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 21:25, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

... also needs to filter out "none" etc from the whitelist — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 21:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I know, it's hard to whitelist words using a RegEx search. It'd be easier just to run the script and check for changes. As a side note, some of the short descriptions are really bad e.g. Bat fly. ― Qwerfjkltalk 21:34, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

BRFA filed @Jonesey95. ― Qwerfjkltalk 19:16, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Template to check for lower-case short descriptions

I have hacked together a template to check for lower-case short descriptions at Template:Short description/lowercasecheck. See Template:Short description/lowercasecheck/testcases for an illustration of how it works. On that testcases page, the text "CATEGORY APPLIED" indicates an invalid lower-case short description.

I have added the new template to {{Short description/sandbox}}, and its output can be see at Template:Short description/testcases. Feedback is welcome. If anyone wants to rewrite this template in Lua, be my guest. It seems like an obvious candidate for a module. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:21, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Also, given that this template is transcluded in more than four million pages, I would love for people to add more testcases if they can think of weird edge cases that might trip up the lower-case checking. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:21, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I have activated this code in {{Short description}}. Category:Pages with lower-case short description will start filling up with thousands of articles. Many of them, at least until we get a few affected articles and templates straightened out, may appear to be there in error.

If an infobox or other template assigns a short description that starts with a lower-case letter because it uses the value of one of its parameters, it may be appropriate to modify the infobox's code to upper-case that value automatically when it is passed to the short description template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:24, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Please note: this new category will be applied if any of the article's short descriptions, whether applied in the article or via a transcluded template, start with a lower-case letter. This is a different flavor of the problem described in the section above about long short descriptions. The workaround is to upper-case all of the article's short descriptions, since they should all be formatted that way anyway. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:09, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

breaking change

This is nonsense. There is no reason to have None rather than none. Either way, you seem to have forgotten {{annotated link}} uses short descriptions. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:32, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

 Comment: See User talk:Qwerfjkl#Short description case issue for context. ― Qwerfjkltalk 21:13, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure what this has to do with the above discussion. The lower-case detection code has always allowed the lower-case "none" as a short description, per accepted practice and the longstanding guidance on this page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:00, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Geographic origin in short description?

I noticed that many articles for musical artists are formatted as “[nationality] [occupation] from [home state/origin state].” I feel this is important for many occupations, as origin is an important value proposition for many musical acts. It is also an effective way to build on nationality in the short desc. How do I start a poll to see how others feel about implementing this format on Wiki? ChristianCanada (talk) 02:51, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I assume by “state,” you mean US state. This therefore feels way too US-centric. Thrakkx (talk) 17:34, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places listings in ....

I'm looking to add "None" to all of the articles like this, and just wanted to check that this was in fact the correct shortdesc before I run over all 4,000 of them. Rusalkii (talk) 01:36, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that looks right to me, and appears to comply with WP:SDNONE. I have added that description to {{NRHP date for lists}}, so you shouldn't need to edit any of the 3,000 articles that transclude that template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Well, that rather took the wind out of my sails, when I filtered those out and the ones that already had short descriptions I was left with a whooping 32. Thanks for saving me the work, I've finished those off. Rusalkii (talk) 06:12, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to save you from 4,000 tedious edits! I've done enough gnoming, however, to know that there are always 4,000 new tedious edits waiting just around the next corner. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:44, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

(Just realized the joking tone might not have come across, I do really appreciate it!) Rusalkii (talk) 16:55, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Huh? template needed

For articles, we add templates like {{Clarify}} or even one like {{Incomprehensible inline}} against text that is confusing, but how do we do that for a confusing Short description? — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 23:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Can you give an example? I usually just fix it based on the content of the article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:06, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

I generally extract a Short description from the first (few) sentences of the article. However, I did have real trouble with Prior probability. The lead is already rather unkind, so a sensible summary was something of a challenge. In the end, I added a question to the talk page and I assume that would be the best way in the future — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 10:41, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

For that page I would write "Concept in statistics", but it has been my experience that editors of mathematics articles prefer to ignore the guidance at WP:SDNOTDEF and WP:SDEXAMPLES (see the history of Euler's identity for an example), so I expect that I would be reverted. As for extracting SDs from the lead, in my view, the leads of many mathematics articles are not written well enough for a layperson to get a basic grasp of what they are about; I do not expect to understand the esoteric math, but readers should at least know what realm of mathematics they are visiting. I am sympathetic with your plight here. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:59, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Cyrillic letter

Thoughts on having the template automatically add "Cyrillic letter" as a short description? ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 18:28, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Good idea. I checked the list of transclusions, and they all seemed to fit the recommended short description. Editors can override the infobox's SD locally within an article if they choose to. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95 Can I also suggest "Typeface" for {{Infobox font}}? 1234 kb of .rar files (is this dangerous?) 09:26, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Of course.  Done. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Pages with two {{Short description}} templates

Hi everybody, I have come across a few articles where there are two instances of the {{Short description}} template (see recent history at Table tennis at the 2016 Summer Paralympics – Men's individual – Class 2, Eretria (Thessaly), Illia Yemets or Norman Rockwell for examples). I've been only recently getting into short descriptions, so I'm not sure why that happens when using the Shortdesc helper, but that's also not my question. I was just wondering whether anyone had an idea how to specifically search for pages with two instances of that template (I didn't find anything regarding this in the talk archives). (I also think this would make for a useful maintenance category, but that's a different question.) Thanks in advance for any help! Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 22:07, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

I use searches like insource:/\{\{[Ss]hort description.*\{\{[Ss]hort description/. Just now this found 690 articles with two templates, before it timed out. The regex search is very expensive, so be sure to use the advanced search and also add the Short description template under Pages with these templates. This helps to reduce the search space before the regex is attempted. Adding a subject category as well will also help — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 23:04, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Under what circumstances does the Shortdesc helper gadget add a second SD template (this edit was in December 2021)? (Assuming that the edit summary is accurate.) That seems like something that should not happen. Here are some more examples of the SD helper gadget apparently adding a second SD: in 2019, in April 2021, in September 2021, and in December 2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

I just reproduced it one way - I opened the same article in two windows and saved the same SD twice. I could see someone getting confused on occasion and actually doing this. MB 23:43, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

The gadget has trouble with a SD template with a space after the template name (see Wikipedia_talk:Shortdesc_helper/Archive_1#Bug:_previous_SD_not_recognized) or multi-line values as above. That seems that a trailing space is the most frequent cause of having a second template. I have added a change request — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 09:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Wow, thank you so much, that's exactly what I was looking for! It looks like searching by the first character of the article title (using prefix:, so insource:/\{\{[Ss]hort description.*\{\{[Ss]hort description/ prefix:a for example) restricts the search space enough for it not to time out. I just did this for 0-9 and A-Z, and found 2285 articles with two short desc templates (I know I might have missed some articles that start with special characters, but that should only be very few). Thanks again! Felida⁹⁷ (talk) 18:53, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Short Description with "None" is redundant

In instances where "{Short description | none}" is used why even have the template at all on the page? It's literally just adding unnecessary strain on the server just to report the same title as the default lead article title anyway? Why not just have the server default where anywhere this is used the entire "{Short description|none}" line gets deleted since it will produce the same result. CaribDigita (talk) 19:48, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@CaribDigita: It shows that the short description is intentionally nothing. ― Qwerfjkltalk 20:46, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

There is an explanation at WP:SDNONE. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@CaribDigita: if you activate the Shortdesc helper, you will see that on pages where the short description is "none", the helper will display This page intentionally has no description. (Wikidata • Add • ?). Thrakkx (talk) 13:57, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Just thinking allowed Could there have been a way to have the Wikipedia server automatically apply this to *any* genuine article that gets loaded unless it has a qualifier that it should go by another name? (I.e. an opt-in approach for the few articles under an alternate name, rather than an opt-out for most articles which should be named appropriately on Wikipedia? CaribDigita (talk) 15:12, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Wiki app and SDNONE

The Wikimedia app invites readers of articles with {{Short description|none}}: "ADD ARTICLE DESCRIPTION". This seems counterproductive. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:36, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

It's a bug, since the article already has a short description template. Is this for Android, iOS, or both? – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I only have access to Android. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:40, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I checked it out on iOS, and it does the same there, except not in all caps. -2pou (talk) 14:27, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Does the WMF know about this bug? Thrakkx (talk) 13:59, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

"None" for lists

Should lists such as List of streets in Hamilton, Waikato be written as "none"? If I recall, there's still articles written as "Wikimedia list article" as their short descriptions, which made me confused on what the proper formatting should be. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 09:18, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

@Qwertyxp2000: I'm still working on this. (30,000 down so far.) ― Qwerfjkltalk 09:30, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Alrighty. So, consensus is that such articles should have their shortdescs turned to "none"? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 09:32, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) (too slow editing on a tablet) — "none" (or "None") is normally correct for a list. A bot request for the bulk change was approved about two weeks ago ( Qwerfjkl (bot) 7 ), and many of "us" change any we encounter — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 09:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

I can only load 10,000 pages at a time (due to search limits), and it takes 5-7 hours to run through them, so progress has been fairly slow. @GhostInTheMachine, I almost always edit on a tablet :) ― Qwerfjkltalk 10:02, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

There's an important distinction to be made here. The bot is setting the default short description for certain lists to 'None': it's a wording that we've agreed is fine in the absence of better individually-crafted manual descriptions. But the bot isn't as I understand it touching already-existing good manual SDs - it has approval just to "replace useless list short descriptions (e.g. 'wikipedia list article ') with 'None'".

We definitely don't want editors to get it into their heads that 'None' is the only approved wording, that all list articles should have such wording, and that manual descriptions are not allowed. On the contrary, if an editor wants to manually improve the default in some particular article, they should be encouraged to do so.

The specific question was Should lists such as List of streets in Hamilton, Waikato be written as "none"? The answer to that is – if 'None' looks good, leave it; if some further explanation would help, feel free to change it to something more informative. In this specific case, I wonder how many of our international readers know where Waikato is? Rather than leave it with the default 'None', I'd suggest something like "Roads in district of New Zealand" would be better. MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:28, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Infobox cemetery

This seems like one that could easily have a automatic SD: "Cemetery in Location, Country". There are only 1400 transclusions and a lot are done, but this would still help. MB 17:57, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

I have added a basic one. Because of apparent limitations of Module:Type in location, I have not included |country=. I asked at the module talk page for help. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

I thought grabbing the country would be easy because I believe it is already done in {{infobox school}}. Since you are looking into extra spacing, that happens in school SDs too sometimes. I've never really looked into it for a pattern, but just searched for examples and found Lincoln High School (San Diego, California) which has a space after California, and Abraham Lincoln High School (San Francisco, California) which has a space after District. Same problem you saw in cemetery? MB 01:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

That looks reasonable; I just didn't have an easy-to-copy model at hand. I incorporated |country= in the sandbox, and I think it was working, but when I saw the extra spaces, I backed out that change. I'll wait for the module to be fixed before trying it again. Thanks for the links to actual SDs with extra spaces in them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Filmographies, videographies, discographies, bibliographies...

I've noticed that editors often add bad short descriptions to filmographies, videographies, discographies, bibliographies, etc., in that the description almost entirely duplicates the article title. For example, Johnny Depp filmography has the short description "Filmography of American actor Johnny Depp". Generally, editors revert a change to "none", so any ideas for a better description that could fit for these titles? Thrakkx (talk) 17:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

In that case you were reverted by a new editor who probably didn't know why you made the change you did. I find that leaving an edit summary when significantly shortening an SD or changing it to "none" greatly reduces the risk of reversion. Unfortunately, that means avoiding Shortdesc helper (which can't handle edit summaries) and dropping into the wiki editor, but for that type of easily-misunderstood edit it's worth it. Try something like "per WP:SDNOTDEF and WP:SDNONE" and see if that helps. MichaelMaggs (talk) 17:43, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Articles with long short description below 3000

Time for us to give ourselves a pat on the back. As per above. Category:Articles with long short description is now down to less than 3000 short descriptions needing attention. Well done everyone, and thanks also to the anonymous infobox template editors for clearing the false positives out of the category. - X201 (talk) 07:42, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Well done all! There are a few more templates that still need to have Noreplace added, including {{Infobox album}}, {{Infobox weapon}}, {{Infobox museum}} and {{Infobox royalty}}. MichaelMaggs (talk) 09:23, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Jonesey95, any chance you could look at those, please? MichaelMaggs (talk) 09:00, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

And the recent change to {{Infobox airport}} as well please? - X201 (talk) 09:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

I think these all have |2=noreplace in them already. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Oh dear. Must be some other reason that many of those articles appear in this list, then, for example Assisi Diocesan Museum and ArmaLite AR-15. MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:49, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done. I see now. These templates needed {{#if:{{Has short description}} |<!--Do nothing--> | ... }} added around the SD template. I have done so. Pages may take a few days to trickle out of the category as they are refreshed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

I found and fixed a few more oddballs in the category that needed special treatment, and it is currently empty from "A" to "Em". Feel free to ping me if you run into cases that you are unable to fix with a simple edit to the SD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:56, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

I just ported this code tweak to the three other templates that I did: {{Infobox radio station}} {{Infobox television station}} {{Infobox shopping mall}} Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Wiktionary redirects

Do soft redirects to Wiktionary like Lutescent need short descriptions? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:18, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

No, redirects of any type don't normally need a short description. MichaelMaggs (talk) 09:52, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

More spam via suggested edit

Crypto spam anyone? Can't there be an extended confirmed user limit on access to this?- X201 (talk) 09:28, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

I provided feedback on T279702. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:25, 11 May 2022 (UTC)