Talk:Ruby Ridge

Dead Links

There are several links to pages that no longer exist. Specific to this note are the links to the page byington.org. I looked at the archived versions of these pages. Most links appear to direct to a Lexus-Nexus-obtained copy of this report: https://www.famous-trials.com/rubyridge/1150-internalinvestigation

Before dropping in to correct them, I wanted to mention it to any eds who regularly watch this page.

Cheers, --Montanakennedy (talk) 19:26, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 18 May 2022

Ruby Ridge → ? Siege of Ruby Ridge The area itself isn't notable. The siege/standoff that occurred there is. Ruby Ridge is just another patch of land if the siege hadn't happened. The article should reflect this, maybe changing some sections around in order to fit the new name. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 14:22, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Move to Ruby Ridge standoff, which is the title used by most of the most recent news articles (especially in the past week with Weaver's death). StAnselm (talk) 14:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

E.g. Randy Weaver, participant in Ruby Ridge standoff, dies at 74, Randy Weaver, key figure behind bloody Ruby Ridge standoff near Canada-U.S. border, dies, and Weaver and the Ruby Ridge standoff contributed to the evolution of the radical right. StAnselm (talk) 16:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose - the nom actually supports not moving it: Ruby Ridge is just another patch of land if the siege hadn't happened. That's right, and thus the name has become synonymous with the standoff. Most people (including journalists and biographers) simply refer to "Ruby Ridge" as representative of the standoff itself. ButlerBlog (talk) 15:18, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
• Move to Ruby Ridge siege. Ruby Ridge can become a primary redirect. The less concise name in this case is the better option; see also Watergate scandal, with primary redirect Watergate. 162 etc. (talk) 16:20, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
• Support. The name "Ruby Ridge" is not synonymous with the siege, but merely an abbreviation for it in casual speech. Much like "Alamo" in vulgar speech tends to refer to the siege and not the actual building (e.g. Alamo redirects to the battle). Doesn't make it synonymous. Walrasiad (talk) 19:59, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
• Move to Ruby Ridge standoff, which (as StAnselm highlights) is the common name. I also support making Ruby Ridge into a primary redirect, as suggested by 162 etc. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:51, 20 May 2022 (UTC)