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Freedom Convoy 2022 Assignment[edit]

This article, under discretionary sanctions and covering a controversial ongoing protest with broad media coverage, has been assigned as the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. This appears problematic, and so I am raising it here; if this is the wrong location, my apologies.

In this context, I would also like to ask what circumstances Wiki Ed rejects the use of a specific article in an assignment? BilledMammal (talk) 05:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, the first and most obvious question to ask is - can any of the students working on that page even edit it? It's under ECP and I have yet to see an Ed student with more than 100 edits when they start out. Primefac (talk) 08:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac: someone's also grabbed Anti-LGBT rhetoric. SN54129 11:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that probably won't go over much better. Why do these Ed courses pick the most heavily-watched and highly-charged topics to try and throw totally new and inexperienced editors into? WikiEd instructors should be telling folks to find a stub and improve it, not to write garbage drafts on never-notable people or edit in heavily-patrolled areas (where their contributions will be little if any if they're even kept). Primefac (talk) 11:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We absolutely do discourage them from editing controversial and well-developed articles. The instructions clearly point them to start and stub class articles. The vast majority do, but some topics are incredibly attractive (bubble tea, is particularly bad). Sage is working on a way to warn students away from certain articles at the assignment stage, but it's still a bit in the future.
In this case, if I had seen it I would have suggested another article. I do get notifications when students assign themselves articles which have been tagged with DS warnings, but it looks like this one wasn't. While I wouldn't tell a class working on LGBT topics they couldn't edit an article like this, I don't know if it is as good a choice for a media studies class. I will get in touch with the instructor about this one. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Genuinely glad to hear this :-) Primefac (talk) 14:44, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ian (Wiki Ed) I've got to ask: why bubble tea? I mean, I know bubble tea itself is popular, but the article? for undergraduate classes? -- asilvering (talk) 21:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Asilvering I wish I knew. I think it's mainly people in general writing classes who are free to work on anything, rather than, say, a class on food chemistry. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that bubble tea is popular among student editors doesn't surprise me at all, although it does sort of make me chuckle. At the start of the quarter as a way to warm up the room I asked each of my students to tell me something yummy, and maybe 1 in 8 said bubble tea. What I'm noticing is that for a lot of my students, their choice of article is strongly linked to the things they love and miss, often related to their home, and that goes double for my international students -- a favorite dish, their region/hometown, a park they enjoyed as a kid, their high school..... As they say, where you edit is where you live :) Kaylea Champion (talk) 05:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't consider that, but I would be surprised if they could. BilledMammal (talk) 10:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@BilledMammal: I get notifications when students assign themselves articles like these, and I would have steered them away from it had it not been subject to ECP. Aside from the difficulty of contributing to a controversial topic like this, there's the fact that it's being actively edited and the event itself is still ongoing. But as it turns out, when a student assigns themselves a protected article, the Dashboard sends an email to them and their instructor letting them know that the article is protected and they won't be able to edit it. What they choose to do next is up to them. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to hear it, thank you. BilledMammal (talk) 14:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Undisclosed Jamaican school writing project[edit]

Further information: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents § Undisclosed Jamaican school writing project

Uncle G (talk) 19:27, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

INFO3504-LGBTQWikiEditing at CUBoulder[edit]

Concerns have been raised about inappropriate categorization & disruptive editing from participants in this WikiEd course at ANI and SPI:

I think some guidance is needed here. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 20:34, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure most of us are familiar with the disruptive editor who bulldozes across Wikipedia making the same edits to many articles despite them being reverted, they just carry on and refuse to communicate. Sadly this well intentioned idea came across like that, resulting in ANI and SPI reports. I haven't looked into the history of this page much to see if something has been suggested, but surely if accounts participating in things like this had a banner at the top of their talk page saying they are participating in a project and to contact [insert editor in charge's name] regarding any problems it would certainly result in a more welcoming response from the community? FDW777 (talk) 20:53, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Accounts involved in a class typically do have a banner mentioning that they're in a specific class (probably automatically added by something?), but I think in this case it was an editathon--I don't know what that would entail if it were related to Wikipedia Edu stuff specifically as the only editathon I've been regularly privy to the existence of is probably more likely to be taken on by people more "into" Wikipedia than most students in classes I see? - Purplewowies (talk) 06:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Growth Features - Mentorship[edit]

Hello all, please see Wikipedia_talk:Growth_Team_features#Student_editors_being_assigned_mentors. — xaosflux Talk 12:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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