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Updated scope for site editing projects #33094

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mtias opened this issue Jun 30, 2021 · 22 comments
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Updated scope for site editing projects #33094

mtias opened this issue Jun 30, 2021 · 22 comments

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@mtias
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@mtias mtias commented Jun 30, 2021

This supersedes #24551 for tracking upcoming tasks around the main site editing projects. There are a few separate tracking issues for covering some general improvements and then some broader projects:

Editor

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The template editor is what powers editing wp_template entries and files.

Patterns

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From directory browsing to placeholder setup to transformations, patterns are a crucial component of the entire site editing scope and the planned improvements are outlined here.

Styling

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Includes the global styles project, design tools in specific site editing blocks, and any further work around theme integration (palettes, gradients, content width, etc).

Blocks

Blocks related to building themes, including editing a site's navigation menu, both in terms of structure and design.

Themes

Flows regarding themes as a whole, from theme switching to theme export.

Gradual Adoption

While full block themes are at the avant-garde of using blocks everywhere, there's still valuable work to be done to improve how all themes can interact with blocks and make use of the new tools gradually and at their own pace.

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@mtias mtias changed the title Remaining scope for Site Editing projects Updated scope for site editing projects Jun 30, 2021
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@carolinan carolinan commented Jul 3, 2021

Do I understand correctly that this scope does not include a plan for allowing block themes to work without Gutenberg even in 5.9?
And I mean block themes not "site editor".

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@mtias mtias commented Jul 3, 2021

They will work once the remaining infrastructure pieces and dependencies (missing blocks) are included even without the theme editor.

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@carolinan carolinan commented Jul 4, 2021

The theme editor is what WordPress calls the built in file editor in the WordPress admin area,. Please help me understand what part that editor plays in whether or not a block theme/ full site editing theme can be activated.

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@mtias mtias commented Jul 8, 2021

Sorry, I was using "theme editor" to mean "site editor" in the above (the block editor that is able to edit all templates of a theme). The current built in file editor would still be there for any kind of theme, though it remains to be seen if it's de-emphasized in the block theme case given you still hace access to all files, provided it's not mixing php files with html templates.

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@mtias mtias commented Jul 15, 2021

Update: broke design tools into its sub-tracking issue at #33447.

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@mtias mtias commented Aug 6, 2021

Update: added "focused template part" mode as a separate item under Template Editor #33926.

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@priethor priethor commented Aug 12, 2021

Update: added "A lighter Navigation Block Experience" as a complement to the existing Navigation Block Tracking Issue #34041

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@mtias mtias commented Sep 6, 2021

Update: added "The Global Styles Interface" to the styling milestone #34574.

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@gingerling gingerling commented Oct 9, 2021

Hi, Is there a plan for category pages etc to be fully editable with blocks like any other page? This would be brilliant for woocommerce. There are some hacky ways round it at the moment, using redirects to replace category pages with normal pages etc, or using canonical url and linking from the menu, but it feels like a huge seo risk to start messing with my site structure this way. I'm wondering how much more research and effort i should put into this, with the way wordpress is going maybe this will be resolved in a year or so?

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@mtias mtias commented Oct 9, 2021

@gingerling with block themes you'd indeed be able to edit category templates, either globally, or for a specific category:

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@gingerling gingerling commented Oct 9, 2021

@gingerling with block themes you'd indeed be able to edit category templates, either globally, or for a specific category:

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Sounds great. Forgive my ignorance, is this available now? Or is this in the works? Is there a roadmap with expected release if so? Thanks for your help!

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@mtias mtias commented Oct 13, 2021

@gingerling the above is available in the Gutenberg plugin paired with a block theme. It's currently targeted for inclusion in WP 5.9.

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@gingerling gingerling commented Oct 18, 2021

@gingerling the above is available in the Gutenberg plugin paired with a block theme. It's currently targeted for inclusion in WP 5.9.

Thank you this is great, I'm planning now to wait for this feature rather than work around it. I'm hoping to be able to work on testing for storefront if it will be incorporating this block theme approach. Really impressed with wordpress development speed and direction right now.

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@gingerling gingerling commented Dec 23, 2021

Hi @mtias so I'm set up with a test site with 5.9-beta3 and twenty-22 theme, but can't seem to work out how to edit category pages.

I can see that there is a template for Archives and I can make general design edits there, but I was hoping to find that the content of each category can be edited with the block editor. My aim is to make my category pages closer to a landing page, choosing individual woocommerce products, texts and images to display at the top for each category page.

Could you point me in the right direction? Thanks!

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@gingerling gingerling commented Dec 23, 2021

[I worked out how to make and name a new template I think, thinking I should apply the new template to the category and made a separate template for each category, but can't work out how to apply it][

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@annezazu annezazu commented Dec 23, 2021

Hi @gingerling! This is not the best spot to ask these kinds of questions as this is meant to be a tracking issue that contributors across the project can come to and see the latest update on the full site editing project. If you're interested in using these features and have similar questions though, I highly recommend joining the FSE Outreach Program: https://make.wordpress.org/test/handbook/full-site-editing-outreach-experiment/ You'll find other folks like yourself exploring features, learning how things work, and giving feedback. This might mean creating new issues or pointing folks to currently open ones to share additional insights. I run the program and you can find me on WordPress.org slack with the same username here (@annezazu). I hope to see you there and always welcome questions. 🥳

To address this question for now though, what you found is what's planned for 5.9. You aren't the only one who wants more granular control over each category template though. You can chime in on this issue with your use case as the intent is to expand upon the foundation that 5.9 sets to include more of these options: #37407

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@MaggieCabrera MaggieCabrera commented Dec 24, 2021

I can see that there is a template for Archives and I can make general design edits there, but I was hoping to find that the content of each category can be edited with the block editor. My aim is to make my category pages closer to a landing page, choosing individual woocommerce products, texts and images to display at the top for each category page.

Could you point me in the right direction? Thanks!

@gingerling You might want to have a look at this if you are interested in Woo templates for block themes

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@gingerling gingerling commented Jan 6, 2022

Thanks all, I joined the slack channel and after talking there, created this feature request: #37746

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@mtias mtias commented Jan 26, 2022

Update: added tracking issues for the comment related blocks.

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@mtias mtias commented Jan 26, 2022

Update: added "gradual adoption" section and "blocks" section.

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@mtias mtias commented Feb 4, 2022

Removing as completed: #29733, #33926, #20331, #34041, #30910, #35521.

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@mtias mtias commented Feb 4, 2022

Completed:

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