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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Today's FA

• Something seems wrong about using the image of a living person (Yuji Naka) to identify a negatively-received game that, according to the blurb itself, the person had little to do with, especially in light of a more relevant image - the game's logo - being available. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 01:44, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

  Sounds like a reasonable concern. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

  Odd indeed. -- Sca (talk) 12:49, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Errors with "In the news"

• RU-UN – The United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution suspending Russia from the Human Rights Council.

For clarity, suggest either "...from the UN Human Rights Council" or "its Human Rights Council." – Sca (talk) 14:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

• Per Joseph2302, suggest changing target article to Eleventh emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly, which conveys the relavant info better. – Sca (talk) 15:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

It should not be the "its" version as that would refer to "Russia". So, taking all three suggestions: * The United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution suspending Russia from the UN Human Rights Council. Bazza (talk) 15:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Works for me. TNX. -- Sca (talk) 15:18, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Could someone implement the above, please? – Sca (talk) 16:27, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done, but I also made some minor tweaks 1) I removed the double link to the Eleventh emergency yada yada, because it was piped to both the first and second link 2) I delinked Russia per WP:SEAOFBLUE, we don't normally link common country names in blurbs. --Jayron32 16:31, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

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April 1st DYK hooks

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I'd like to get some more eyes on the Did You Know hooks scheduled to hit the Main Page on April 1st – these are currently in Queue 2. DYK hooks have traditionally (and controversially) been given more latitude on April 1st, but they are still supposed to adhere to all the usual content guidelines; the only exception, according to the rules, is that "proper capitalization, title formatting, and linking standards may be disregarded".

For me, the three most problematic hooks in this collection are the following:

• ... that a common way to travel to another world is to be hit by a truck (example pictured)? – The picture is a made-for-DYK cartoon image of a man being hit by a truck, with the caption "Man being sent to a new world". Putting aside the hook's failure to distinguish fact from fiction (which may be considered an allowable "April fools" ambiguity), this is just an incredibly insensitive "joke" to be placing on the main page. Millions of Wikipedia readers will have had loved ones killed in traffic accidents, and trivializing this for a bit of cheap humour is totally inappropriate. WP:GRATUITOUS applies here.
• ... that according to a NASA essay collection, ancient carvings "might have been made by aliens"? – The NASA book does not make this claim. Yes, all those words appear in that order, but from the context it's clearly just a rhetorical statement. Our article explains how bloggers deliberately distorted the author's meaning for an easy clickbait headline; Wikipedia should be better than that.
• ... that shoe-mirrors are banned at Brigham Young University? – Shoe mirrors do not exist, and they have never been banned at BYU. This hook might be fixable with the addition of the word "reportedly", but as it stands it's in violation of WP:V.

I'm posting this now (rather than waiting till March 31st to post at WP:ERRORS) to allow time for discussion. I'd like to get some more thoughts on whether these hooks are appropriate for the Main Page, and interested editors might like to review the other hooks in the set (I haven't checked them all myself). Thanks. Dan from A.P. (talk) 18:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

i actually think adding "reportedly" increases the humour quality of the BYU hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree about the first one, and I wonder where the humour is in the third one, but the second one seems right on point for an April Fools' hook (assuming they're desirable at all, which I'm not convinced of). Primergrey (talk) 01:34, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

• The first one is wildly inappropriate at any time, not even 1st April, and doesn't it fail the real-world test anyway? Get rid, please.
• The problem with the second one is that NASA didn't say what the hook says, but I'm not massively bothered about this one
• The third one is mildly interesting, but the hook is completely misleading, it does need "It was reported that..." or something like that. Black Kite (talk)

Get rid of the second, as well; we shouldn't be spreading misinformation. BilledMammal (talk) 14:02, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

I think this year's April Fools hooks are fairly tame. (Full disclosure: I've written the Caesar one). I'm more worried that they are so tame that people won't notice it's April Fools Day. —Kusma (talk) 14:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

When I promoted the set, I was hesitant about the BYU one. I considered not promoting it and instead bringing it to the DYK talk page for further discussion, but in the end I decided that it might be ok since it was April 1. I'd be fine with adding "reportedly". That said, the BYU one has an image, and was originally requested for an image slot. If people are concerned about the truck image being insensitive, we could add "reportedly" to the BYU hook and swap it with the truck one in the image slot. Regarding the NASA hook, it we might be able to retain the element of surprise while still making it less misleading if we rephrased it as "... that a NASA essay collection said ancient carvings "might have been made by aliens"?" ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:22, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

I think using the shoe mirror as the image slot would be an improvement. "Reportedly" there also fits with the story being about the paper. —Kusma (talk) 16:32, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Changed "are" to "were reportedly" in BYU hook. Gatoclass (talk) 03:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

My concern with the NASA hook is that most people who see it aren't going to click through to the article, and if they don't realise it's April Fools day they'll come away with the idea that NASA has endorsed the ancient astronaut hypothesis. Wikipedia usually goes to great lengths to combat pseudoscience, and with good reason – even an apparently harmless concept like ancient astronauts can be a gateway to more dangerous conspiracy theories (because once it's established that science is wrong and the government is hiding something, anything goes). So that's my thinking with that hook, maybe I'm being over-sensitive, I don't know. Dan from A.P. (talk) 08:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I think you are exaggerating the potential of this hook to do any actual harm. —Kusma (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

• I've gone ahead and swapped the shoe mirror image for the truck image, and tweaked the wording of the NASA hook. I'm not sure my tweek is enough to completely ameliorate DanFromAnotherPlace's concerns, but I do think "said X" is more accurate than "According to NASA X is true". They did say those words - which were misinterpreted to be saying X is true. X was not true according to them. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 14:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

ONUnicorn, the shoe mirror hook just isn't strong enough for a lead hook IMO. I would strongly suggest that you revert the change - either that, or substitute the lead hook about the giant chicken from queue 4 as the lead for queue 2, as the chicken hook and image would probably be a good fit for AFD. Gatoclass (talk) 15:29, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

@Gatoclass I'm hesitant to revert my change - in this discussion above we have 3 people (@DanFromAnotherPlace, @Primergrey, and @User:Black Kite) indicating they think the picture for the truck hook is inappropriate/insensitive - and I think they have a point, although not one I noticed before promoting it. I wouldn't be against the giant chicken, but are you thinking we should add it to this set, so the set is longer, or are you thinking about taking the truck hook out entirely? Also, do you have something in mind for the then-empty image slot in queue 4? ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Preceding discussion outdated. – Sca (talk) 14:31, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Russo-Ukrainian conflict

I was told here a while ago that the consensus was to only have the war in Ukraine in the "ongoing" section when it was not in the news section, but right now it is in both. Has the consensus changed, or is this an error? Cassie Schebel, almost a savant. <3 (talk) 19:18, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

We wouldn't link to the same article twice — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 03:01, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine linked in ongoing, is not linked in the blurb. Stephen 04:05, 6 April 2022 (UTC)