Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council

New navbox set up

Hi everyone. this is your friendly neigborhood Coordinator for WikiProject History. I have made a new type of navbox for history topics, focusing upon one period in Europe's history. what do you think of this? feel free to comment, offer suggestions, etc. thanks!!!

---Sm8900 (talk) 🌍 16:48, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Could also include History of European Jews in the Middle Ages, Haskalah, Islamic world contributions to Medieval Europe, and maybe some other links to topics about the history of Europe that centre non-Christians? MadameOctavian (talk) 07:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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Review Request Help

Can someone review the page Draft:Spick_Media_Network ? This draft has been pending for more than 48 days.

Capitalization in Project name

Let me point out Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Effective Altruism#Capitalization in Project name. —Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 01:02, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

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Inactive projects in the WikiProject directories

I'm currently very active in looking around and tidying up the environment of our WP:FOSS. I updated (basically emptied) some member lists and updated projects activity status. Please check the current status here (which I also did update):

• Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory/Science#Computing

My issue is that a lot of structures doesn't fit and represent reality anymore. In the case of the aforementioned Directory/Science#Computing roughly 6 of the 40 entries can be considered active. 3 of them are semi-active which cuts the list of active entries down to 3.

Result is that the list is basically misleading and more historical than a representation of reality. It took me some time to understand the color coding and the internal logic and I can ensure that passing visitors of those pages won't get the right impression about it's content.

 Needs discussion How to handle Directory/Science#Computing?

Idea: We could move the inactive parts into Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Inactive_projects and then remove most of it's content from the main list

GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 03:51, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Update: I found out about WikiProject Directory/Computing_WikiProjects and see the same issue there. I suggest a permanent separation which automatically hides inactive/defunct WikiProjects since 7 out of 29 show any activity. This can be done with either splitting it between active/not active view or set the inactive separated and automatically hidden as we often do it with former participant lists.

I am unaware if it looks similar in different spaces. But this is an issue in Computing that every list is cluttered with dead and inactive WikiProjects. GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 09:02, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@GavriilaDmitriev I think it would go a long way towards fixing this if the default order is changed. WP:WikiProject Directory should be sorted by "participants" by default instead of alphabetical, and similarly all sections of WP:WikiProject Council/Directory should be sorted by "active" status (also each set of taskforces) instead of the current situation where some of them are sorted by active status, others alphabetically.

Indeed, the colour-coding is not obvious for taskforces - perhaps, in the template for a taskforce entry, the taskforce name, which currently blocks 4 columns, could be reduced to 3 columns freeing up the "active" column where the active status could be explicitly noted.

I think it's useful that dead wikiprojects are listed; some of their pages could still be of use, and someone who wants to start a wikiproject might find a dead one and decide to revive that one instead, leading to less duplicated effort. I think hiding them by default or moving them elsewhere is not necessary if the two changes I described are made.

I'm not sure how often these directories are visited or used - I estimate not much, so this will likely not be prioritised. Changing the order on WP:WikiProject Council/Directory is tedious work, doing so for WP:WikiProject Directory means a change in the code of Reports bot (for both, I think moving/hiding inactive ones would be as or more difficult); the second change I described is just editing some templates, I should be able to do that relatively easily if others approve. Kind regards from PJvanMill)talk( 16:18, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

PS: I've changed the heading from "Updated the entries of IT-related WikiProjects" to "Inactive projects in the WikiProject directories", because what you describe goes beyond just IT-related projects. I hope you don't mind.

Thank you @PJvanMill for your suggestion and changing of the title! I appreciate your initiative and you are right that it reflects the shift of topic better.

I understand there are different approaches to handle the visibility of WikiProjects and some take more effort and some less. And that some of those changes aren't considered as important to the general community to tackle it in the near future.

Note: My experience as a newbie

While there are plenty of WikiProjects I am interested in there is just so much of me. And I had several times the experience now that I thought "Oh great, I want to participate there!" just to be immediate disappointed that it's dead for several years. This is relevant for new users. We struggle already a lot to see what actually applies to our questions just to see that more than half of the content we find is either dead or severely outdated. So I strongly disagree on keeping something because there could be someone more interested in the future because that is a luxury problem we can handle if we have a contributor influx. But currently I see the opposite happening since several years. I support keeping the WikiProjects in it's existence (means not deleting themselves) because they have valuable boards and information although often outdated. But if someone want to engage in a specific field that user will find it's precursor sooner or later. But the average user is rather looking for connection with other Wikipedians they can ask as in the Teahouse.

Disagree on the notion that directories should show dead WikiProjects since they might be populated in the future

Idea: Hiding dead WikiProjects by default to show newcomer easily where people are active — Preceding unsigned comment added by GavriilaDmitriev (talk • contribs) 16:42, 2022 February 26 (UTC)

@GavriilaDmitriev, I don't see much of a difference in usefulness between (1) it's obvious which ones are active and which ones not, and the inactive ones are all sorted at the bottom and (2) the inactive ones are hidden by default. Meanwhile, I do see a difference in how difficult they are to achieve - for (1) it's clear how to do it, for (2) not so much, and I am almost certain that (2) would be quite a lot harder to achieve than (1). That is why I am arguing for option (1). Kind regards from PJvanMill)talk( 14:04, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello from WP:FOSS!

I'm GavriilaDmitriev and I see my roots in WP:FOSS. One out of my current tasks is to take care for our TaskForce and recruiting new member. Luckily I didn't had to revive it although many WikiProjects in our environment are already inactive. I'm writing here to check the current situation of WP:COUNCIL and if other member from the IT related WikiProjects and TaskForces are active here.

• I would love to get in contact with the current participants of WP:COUNCIL

Most of places I explore seem abandoned and most of the seeming activity is done by bots. GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 04:08, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

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FYI, template:WPJ1/template:WPJ2/template:WPJ3 have been nominated for deletion -- these are generalized wikiproject link templates -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 04:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

{{Convert to use WPBannerMeta}}

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Need help creating requests archive

Hi! I'm working on improving WP:FINANCE. We have various request backlogs and I wish to implement a backlog system similar to the one used by WP:ANRFC where only resolved requests are archived. How may I do so? Wikipedia:WikiProject Finance & Investment/Requests is one page where this would be most beneficial. Thanks! A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 12:50, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

@A. C. Santacruz: If you want the archiving to be done automatically by a bot, I think this would require each request to be in its own little section like at ANRFC. At WP:Cleanup we do the archiving manually. Kind regards from PJvanMill)talk( 14:22, 1 March 2022 (UTC)