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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see Template:DYK nomination header § Instructions for nominators.

This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 21 1
December 30 1
January 6 1
January 7 1
January 24 2
January 28 1
February 1 1
February 9 1
February 13 2 1
February 18 1 1
February 19 2 2
February 21 1 1
February 24 3 2
February 26 1
February 27 1
March 1 3 1
March 4 1
March 5 2 1
March 6 2 2
March 7 2
March 8 1 1
March 9 6 3
March 10 3 1
March 11 5 2
March 12 2 1
March 13 5 4
March 14 1 1
March 15 6 2
March 16 4 1
March 17 6 3
March 18 5 4
March 19 5 3
March 20 10 5
March 21 4 2
March 22 12 8
March 23 11 7
March 24 10 8
March 25 12 6
March 26 13 6
March 27 13 7
March 28 9 3
March 29 9 5
March 30 7 1
March 31 8 5
April 1 6 4
April 2 9 3
April 3 9 3
April 4 9 2
April 5 7 1
Total 237 113
Last updated 17:55, 5 April 2022 UTC
Current time is 18:06, 5 April 2022 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

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Frequently asked questions[edit]

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

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Instructions for reviewers[edit]

Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
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If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Instructions for project members[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a Prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
1) Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: Symbol confirmed.svg Symbol voting keep.svg.
2) Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
a. Any outstanding issue following Symbol confirmed.svg Symbol voting keep.svg needs to be addressed before promoting.
3) Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
4) Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
5) Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
6) Hook should make sense grammatically.
7) Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
8) Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
1) For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
a. Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
2) Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
a. Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
b. Check that there's a bold link to the article.
3) If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
4) Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
5) Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
a. At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
6) Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
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    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources: To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]] To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]] To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]] To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]] To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]] To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]] To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on December 21[edit]

Price of the Modi Years

  • ... that Price of the Modi Years states that India lost 20% of its workforce under Prime Minister Narendra Modi? Source: Aakar Patel: ‘Modi shrank India’s workforce by a fifth’ Hindu
  • ALT1 ... that according to the book Price of the Modi Years the popularity of Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi does not depend on his performance?

Source:moneycontrol In conclusion, Patel writes that “Modi’s popularity does not come from his performance.”

Source: same as above "Patel also comments on the current dispensation’s love for acronyms and alliterations—Patel provides 115 of them, which put a “PR spin to everything”."

Source: same as above "In his book, Patel writes that the Modi-led government has only changed previously rolled-out schemes’ names and presented them anew, often using the prefix PM. Patel writes that when the Congress MP Shashi Tharoor pointed this out, saying that there were 23 such schemes, he was right about 19 of them."

Source: same as above "Modi government sent Twitter 2,772 legal demands for removal of content or blocking accounts"

    • Reviewed: Exempt
    • Comment: Working to expand the article.

Created by Venkat TL (talk). Self-nominated at 07:16, 21 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is interesting and within prescribed limits. Image of book cover is fair use and will not appear on WP front page in the DYK section. Sources check. Earwig dup detector shows no close paraphrasing to speak of. Good to go. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:45, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since the article/hook has already been approved, I'll leave that up to Venkat TL We might simply want to mention that in the lede, again, if Venkat TL thinks the statement is ledeworthy. Of course I suppose you're free to make such an edit. I've no objections. Cheers. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:15, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • theleekycauldron, thank you for the ALT, I think it is even better than what I had proposed. I prefer your alt over mine. Gwillhickers, it is already added in the section on Content. I have no objections to any of the ALTs. Venkat TL (talk) 09:52, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm going to put this on hold while this and another nomination are up for discussion at WT:DYK. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 11:02, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Theleekycauldron The discussion appears to be over. SL93 (talk) 07:20, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • @SL93 and Venkat TL: Well, the article does have a lot of substantial content now, but the book's arguments are still posed in Wikipedia's voice. That should probably be cleared up first theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 07:22, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
          • @Theleekycauldron and Venkat TL: I tried to see if I could fix the article, but the seventh reference under the content section isn't about the book. I think it should be removed. SL93 (talk) 14:24, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
            • Are you referring to this link [1]? Frontline is a reputed Indian political magazine from The Hindu. This article is about the book where the author is discussing the book's content. Venkat TL (talk) 14:28, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
              • I know that the source is reliable, but the article only says "Interview with Aakar Patel, author of ‘Price of the Modi Years’." I can see that it is an interview about the same issue, but I see nothing that says that the specific content in the interview is in the book. Maybe a proper place for that information would be in a background section. SL93 (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
                • I have no objections in moving the refs and content to more appropriate sections. Venkat TL (talk) 14:39, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have pulled this from prep as the article needs further work; see this discussion. Gatoclass (talk) 11:04, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Venkat TL, Gwillhickers, Theleekycauldron, and SL93: Any updates on this? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:46, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Narutolovehinata5:, it is my understanding that some people are holding this DYK, saying the article needs to include praises of Modi. I am not getting any content to add into the article. So waiting for more book reviews to get published. Do you have any suggestions to resolve the impasse? Venkat TL (talk) 13:50, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Venkat TL and Narutolovehinata5: I think the hangup is that even if there are no criticisms of the book+praises of Modi out there, even if this article entirely represents due weight of secondary sourcing as written, WP:DYK#gen4 still states that Articles and hooks that ... promote one side of an ongoing dispute should be avoided. If the book hasn't broken into wide enough circulation to receive opposition, I'd say that this article shouldn't be featured on the front page. Some publications don't circulate wide enough to receive notice from critics, but that doesn't mean that those publications represent a perfect-but-partisan analysis. It just means the small sample size of the available sourcing doesn't give a neutral overview. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 08:56, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • theleekycauldron, I dont think it is the book that is creating the problem here. It is the media censorship in India. As with any authoritarian regime, it very hard to criticize the regime. Due to the regime's arm-twisting tactics, a criticism comes with the cost. Since the book publication, the author has been harassed by tax agencies and the book publisher (an Amazon company) has shut down shop (not sold, shut down). The book is selling well and I believe reviews will continue to come out. I did the last check couple of weeks ago, will wait for some more weeks, update the article and will ask for fresh review. Venkat TL (talk) 09:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  1. User Ranban282 has added a critical review of the book in the article.
  2. I have expanded the content section using reliable source.
  3. I found another review and added it.
  4. Added ALTs 1-4

Symbol redirect vote 4.svgThe DYK and the article are ready for a review. Venkat TL (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 30[edit]

Chinese dama

  • ... that the Chinese damas, which literally means "Chinese big mamas", caused China to pass India in becoming the biggest purchaser of gold? Source:
    1. Sim, Shuan (2014-04-01). "China's Unstoppable Gold-Buying 'Aunties' Move Onto Bitcoins". Jing Daily. Archived from the original on 2021-12-21. Retrieved 2021-12-21.

      The article notes: "Eschewing the volatile stock markets, dama prefer the stability of hard assets and the ability to hand wealth down to their children, but their fervor is causing an unintentional side effect—as reported by Want China Times, these eagle-eyed women “have been credited with driving China’s gold market and the 28 percent global fluctuation in gold prices” in 2013. Their buying spree resulted in a 41.4 percent national increase in gold consumption last year, leading China to surpass India as the world’s largest gold consumer."

    2. "Dama". China Internet Information Center. 2013-12-27. Archived from the original on 2021-12-21. Retrieved 2021-12-21.

      The article notes: "Dama, literally means 'big mama,' referring mainly to married women between the age 40-60."

5x expanded by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 10:14, 30 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • ALT2: that the Chinese damas, which literally means "Chinese big mamas", caused China to become the biggest purchaser of gold?

    A more concise version of the original hook that takes into account Andrew Davidson's feedback below about ALT1 about how "big" means "outsize or fat in a western context".

    Cunard (talk) 23:46, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Thank you for this very comprehensive article on the dama. In response to the above conversation, I have struck ALT0. ALT1 is fine, and is sourced here and in the article by the same citation.

  • I have one puzzle - that DYK Check says that the article is neither new nor recently 5x expanded. However the article history says that just before Cunard started editing on 30 December 2021 the character count was 4628, and that the count today is 34,902. That looks like a satisfactory 5x expansion to me. BlueMoonset please could you check this for me? Have I misread something? Thank you. If the 5x expansion is fine, then this nomination should be good to go. Update: this review is still incomplete; I shall explain shortly. Storye book (talk) 21:54, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Storye book, DYKcheck operates on the theory, which doesn't always apply, the articles grow over time. So it checks all the way back to the beginning, even when the article was in Draft or use space, to see its highest prior size, and 5x from there. In fact, it's how big the article was prior to the recent expansion that matters, even if that is smaller than previous high water marks. In this case, as you note, the article started at 4628, which would require an expansion to 23140, and the count is actually 34902, which is a 7.5x expansion, more than enough to qualify for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:30, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah, thank you, BlueMoonset. So from now on I'll make sure I always check the article History page for 5x expansions. Storye book (talk) 10:46, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Although my question about length has now been resolved, I have had a re-think about my above review, and I have seen another issue. I shall return shortly and explain. My apologies for any inconvenience caused because I missed something earlier. Storye book (talk) 10:46, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality

My apologies for hesitating a little while before explaining this re-think. It is a seismic change to my attitude to this article, and I wanted to be sure that I was doing the right thing. I am not one of those who are happy to delete articles or to drastically diminish them, and because I appreciate the great effort that it takes to produce a well-written article, I do not like to heavily criticise a creator's work. Therefore, please be patient with my attitude here. Let's think of it in terms of getting things right, and not of any attempt by me to destroy the article.

I have now realised that the general tone and attitude of the article is one that reflects the kind of misogyny towards older women that Western history has seen hundreds of years ago with the concept of witches, and more recently with the concept that older women who knit are stupid, useless, non-persons, with the skill of knitting itself being diminished in the process. That kind of generalisation is always going to be a lie, and in the case of knitting the critics themselves tend to be those who cannot knit themselves, it being an acquired skill requiring mental skills as well as physical ones. Misogyny (in my opinion) is a process of both unfair generalisation, and of intentional diminishment.

This article is carefully written, and as far as I can see, the creator has made a great effort to be fair, to use authoritative citations, and to cite everything conscientiously. The problem, then, is what has been left out. For example (re China and the Chinese diaspora only, of course) omissions include:

  • The percentage and number of the entire Chinese female population who are of middle age.
  • The percentage of those women who actually do town-square dancing.
  • The percentage of middle-aged town-square dancers who have controlled and turned on loud sound systems which have upset residents in town squares.
  • The percentage of middle-aged Chinese females who live in towns, and have enough disposable income to buy gold
  • The percentage of rural middle-aged Chinese women who are not in a position to purchase gold, dress and dye their hair like the woman in the picture and do town-square dancing

I think that an examination of the above would reveal that the much discussed dama image represents only a tiny fraction of middle aged Chinese women, and (I'm guessing) represents very few middle-aged women in the Chinese diaspora.

Another way to balance the neutrality of this article would be to look at the percentages of other types of middle-aged Chinese women. For example:

  • The percentage of middle-aged Chinese woman who are established businesswomen, including rural farming and village-industry women, women running businesses in towns, and businesswomen among the diaspora. This, I believe, is quite a large percentage. They give a very different picture as far as I am aware, because (at least the ones that I have met) would have used the cheap-gold era to purchase bullion for profit or investment, since most of the cost of gold artefacts is the cost of labour, not the basic cost of the metal. The article makes the damas look stupid for just purchasing gold artefacts as gifts, and anyway most of the artefact purchasing would have benefited the labourers and manufacturers, not the sale of gold itself. True businesswomen and investors purchase bullion, even if they can only purchase tiny bits of bullion.
  • The percentage of middle-aged Chinese women who are educated. The damas of this article are not credited with education, but are credited with the activities of uneducated and simple people. I have met many educated, middle-aged Chinese woman (one of them is my neighbour who has a degree from Oxford) and none of them look or behave like the damas in your article.

Now, I am not saying that the dama type does not exist, but the concept of the dama does not come from women who fit the dama type. It comes from outsiders who are not like them, and who are more likely to be men than women, because every Chinese woman is going to be middle-aged eventually and they must be aware of that.

Perhaps the most important point here is that Chinese women of the dama type are not given a voice. There is only one commentator (Teng Wei) hidden away at the bottom of the article which says that "It's ageist, classist — and it's time to stop".

Conclusion: I don't think that I can pass this article for DYK until its neutrality is balanced to the extent that if any middle-aged Chinese intelligent businesswoman were to read the article, they would not feel that all Chinese women of middle age were being generalised as potentially a dama who is potentially some sort of uneducated clown. If you are happy to adjust the article for neutrality, I would be happy to wait until you have completed that task, and to re-assess it. I repeat that the article is beautifully-written, and I can see the excellent work that has gone into it. The problem is just that there is so much missing that it is unbalanced on the side of misogyny.

I must add that all of the above, that I have written today, is my opinion. Should you wish to dismiss me as a reviewer, and request another reviewer, I shall respect that. Storye book (talk) 17:47, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do not agree that the article "is unbalanced on the side of misogyny". Most of the coverage in the article is neutral or positive towards damas. When I include negative media coverage about damas, I balance it with analysis from scholars who condemn that negative coverage:
  1. The "Later meaning: negative connotation" section: "Li cited two extensively reported examples of how the media 'distort[s] the Dama image'. The first story took place in a Beijing street in 2013 when a dama was widely and unfairly criticized for allegedly trying to extort a youthful man who was from another country for making her fall. It turned out that the man had engaged in wrong-way driving and red light running and had exploded in an anger at the dama he had struck who had been obeying traffic laws in crossing the street. The second story took place in a Wuhan subway in 2015 when a dama struck a young woman. Li speculated that individuals refer to the dama with a disdainful and mocking tone since they despise the wealthy and want to protest against wealth inequality."
  2. The "Later meaning: negative connotation" section: "Writing in The New York Times, editor Wang Junling said that it was incorrect to stereotype and there is not even a 'clear definition' of what a dama is. Wang wrote, 'The various deeds of the aforementioned damas have no logical connection. As long as middle-aged and elderly women in China do something different, they can be labeled as such.'"
  3. The "Square dancing" section: According to Teng Wei, the scholar, the media was exaggerating the dancer conflicts, which builds on the dama lore. She bemoaned that older women who were merely seeking friendship and physical activity were being baselessly cast as "a malignant social force that everyone — even officials — must tiptoe around".
  4. The lead and the "Comparison to other subcultures" section: "Reflecting on the double standards, she concluded, "When we use dama as an insult, what we're really doing is suggesting that there's something inherently wrong with being a middle-aged woman. It's ageist, classist — and it's time to stop"
The article includes analysis explaining why the Chinese damas purchased gold (the "Social and economic context for gold purchases" section) and why they are behaving differently from their predecessors (the "Social and economic context" section). Regarding "The article makes the damas look stupid for just purchasing gold artefacts as gifts", these sections explain why the damas purchased gold and make no judgment on whether they "look stupid" for purchasing gold.
Regarding finding percentages like "The percentage of those women who actually do town-square dancing" and "The percentage of rural middle-aged Chinese women who are not in a position to purchase gold, dress and dye their hair like the woman in the picture and do town-square dancing", I have been unable to find any sources that discuss this information in the context of damas, so including this information (even if I could find sources for it outside the context of damas) would violate Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Synthesis. I agree that the article would be significantly improved if such information could be included but I did not find sourcing to support this information in the context of damas.
The modern usage of the term "dama" is not for referring to all Chinese middle-aged women. It is used to describe (and frequently insult) a subset of Chinese middle-aged women. There is no universally agreed upon definition of "dama" which could explain why there are no sources for all of these percentages. From Claudia Huang's article in Journal of Aging Studies:

Shortly before leaving Chengdu, the capital of China's southwestern Sichuan province at the end of 2017, I sent an informal survey to some friends on the popular Chinese messaging platform WeChat. This survey contained only one question: “how would you describe a dama?” ... The differences in people's responses did not catch my attention as much as the fact that nearly everyone who received the survey offered an answer. The specifics varied, but each person held a clear and developed picture of a dama in his or her mind's eye. On another occasion, my friend Xia— an educated and well-traveled woman in her late twenties, told me that it's impossible to pin down an exact description of a dama because “they like to dress differently for different occasions,” but that “you know one when you see one.”

Regarding "Perhaps the most important point here is that Chinese women of the dama type are not given a voice", I reviewed and cited numerous news articles, journal articles, and books. Some of these authors may have been written by middle-aged Chinese women (I did not check their ages). But I could not find a single source where the author(s) self-identified themselves as "damas" so I cannot call them damas in the article. "Dama" has become a pejorative term like Karen (slang) which may be why people generally don't self-identify.

Although I do not agree that the article is "unbalanced on the side of misogyny", I agree that like all Wikipedia articles, the article has a lot of room for improvement. I agree that "the much discussed dama image represents only a tiny fraction of middle aged Chinese women, and (I'm guessing) represents very few middle-aged women in the Chinese diaspora". There was no intention for the Wikipedia article to convey this message. Perhaps some of the wording could be made more clear that this is a stereotype and a pejorative term that in no way represents all Chinese middle-aged women, so I welcome examples of sentences that convey the wrong message and should be reworded. Perhaps the article can be expanded to include more perspectives from damas themselves. But to do that, sourcing has to be found to support this information.

Cunard (talk) 23:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you for going to the trouble of writing your long and careful reply. I had already seen the examples and quotations that you gave in that reply. However, if the existing summary of the article represents the whole, then there is something wrong with the balance in my opinion. You say you have insufficient sources for the provision of balance, and you ask me to suggest new wording for you. This is a long and complex article, and I am supposed to be reviewing it, not re-writing such a large piece. If you are unable to improve the balance of the article for whatever reason, I feel that I cannot find it in my conscience to pass it for DYK as it stands. I suggest that you find another reviewer. All the best. Storye book (talk) 09:55, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
However, if the existing summary of the article represents the whole, then there is something wrong with the balance in my opinion. – the article complies with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Due and undue weight, which says, "Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources." The article fairly represents what the sources say about damas. I wish there were many more sources like the scholar Teng Wei that made statements like, "When we use dama as an insult, what we're really doing is suggesting that there's something inherently wrong with being a middle-aged woman. It's ageist, classist — and it's time to stop". That way, I could write more about why it is is bigoted to use the term to stereotype and to insult middle-aged women. Beyond what I have already included in the article, I did not find this in my survey of the literature. Per Wikipedia:No original research and WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS, without more sources, I cannot add more information about why it is bigoted to use the term to stereotype and to insult middle-aged women. If any editor finds a source I overlooked that discusses why "dama" is a bigoted term, I would be happy to add it. I have searched extensively for this information and did not find it.

You say you have insufficient sources for the provision of balance, and you ask me to suggest new wording for you. This is a long and complex article, and I am supposed to be reviewing it, not re-writing such a large piece. If you are unable to improve the balance of the article for whatever reason, I feel that I cannot find it in my conscience to pass it for DYK as it stands. – I went through the article myself and do not find anything unbalanced or biased. I asked you to point out any sentences you find to be unbalanced or biased in case I overlooked anything.

I suggest that you find another reviewer. – yes, I would like another reviewer. I cannot act on the suggestions made so far without violating Wikipedia:No original research and WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS.

Cunard (talk) 10:35, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm picking this up as a reviewer. Here are my initial thoughts:

  1. The article's quality seems better than other articles about comparable stereotypes. For example, consider the mother-in-law. The article that you get when you click on that link is quite pathetic. There's also mother-in-law joke but that's not much better.
  2. The level of quality required for a DYK is not superlative; the articles are not expected to be of FA or GA quality.
  3. We must beware of perfectionism. For example, Churchill said "The maxim 'Nothing avails but perfection' may be spelt shorter: 'Paralysis'."
  4. I'm really not liking the ALT1 suggestion which will present the topic with the literal translation of "big mamas". This phrase has rather different connotations in Western culture. In particular, the word "big" would tend to mean outsize or fat in a western context – see Big Momma's House, for example. As I understand it, the word "big" in this context means first or dominant, being the traditional term of respect for the first or senior wife in a multi-wife household. As the subject is a distinctly Chinese stereotype, I reckon we should stick with dama, to avoid confusion with western stereotypes. So, I've unstruck the orginal hook.
  5. I note that the linked page in the Chinese Wikipedia is a disambiguation page which separates the various shades of meaning for the phrase.

More anon. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:01, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback and for sharing your thoughts, Andrew Davidson (talk · contribs). I've proposed an ALT2 above that takes the original hook and makes it more concise. Cunard (talk) 23:46, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cunard: Thanks for the update. I've started reading the article carefully from the top and balked at the outset. The lead makes the classic mistake of starting "Chinese dama (clutter) is a term that refers to Chinese middle-aged women." This is contrary to MOS:REFERS and WP:DICDEF. We need to clarify what the topic is here. Is it:
  1. The English phrase "Chinese dama" (the recent western usage)
  2. The Chinese phrase "dama (大妈)" as a linguistic concept
  3. The traditional Chinese first wife as a sociological concept
  4. The traditional Chinese aunt as a sociological concept
  5. The modern Chinese rich widow or middle-aged woman who follows fashion – speculating in gold, square-dancing or whatever – the recent journalistic/social media construct

Note again that the Chinese Wikipedia disambiguates, to treat these as separate topics. If we run that through Google Translate, it renders it as

Aunt may refer to:

  • Appellation for middle-aged or middle-aged women in parts of China and Hong Kong
  • In some parts of China, aunts are called aunts
  • Chinese women who bought gold in large numbers in 2013 later switched to bitcoin
  • The nanny from mainland China .
  • On the Internet in Taiwan, there is a contemptuous tone, similar to that of a mother-in-law.
  • The first mother, the concubine, the flat wife, and the children born in the step room call the father's original wife's wife
  • Charlotte Lilly, the Japanese anime One Piece character, nicknamed BIG MOM.

This loses something in translation, of course, but shows that the Chinese think that these are separate. So my point is that we perhaps need to be more careful in conflating them.

Sorry to be pedantic about this but it seems essential to clarify what the topic is exactly. I suppose it's #5 in the list above but we need to define this more clearly at the outset.

Andrew🐉(talk) 11:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the good feedback about the lead, Andrew Davidson (talk · contribs). I've modified the lead based on your feedback to remove "refers" and to provide the most prevalent definition. Cunard (talk) 08:31, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Cunard: I've taken another look at this and apologies for the delay. I'm still not satisfied as I don't think that my points have been adequately addressed. The lead still starts by talking of a "term" and its meanings, which is contrary to WP:DICDEF. And the proposed hook still talks about "big", which is too literal and misleading.
On the latter point, note that I recently started a Chinese topic too – Li Sixun. Britannica says that he is known as "Big General Li" to distinguish him from his son, "Little General Li". This must be a similar issue of translation and, following the usage of other sources, I explain this as "senior" or "the elder", which convey the sense better. My view is that we're supposed to be writing in English here and so should use the appropriate English words in such cases.
Symbol redirect vote 4.svgOthers might be more accommodating on these points so I think we should agree to disagree. I don't want to approve this but I don't want to fail it either so I'll flag it for attention by another reviewer. Ok?
Andrew🐉(talk) 20:36, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (for information only - not a review). Further to my long comment above, I have discovered a few more things on this subject, and perhaps I ought to share that with you. Firstly, some of my Chinese friends and acquaintances who have lived and worked for some years in several of the largest cities in China tell me that they have never heard of da ma's behaving in the way described in the article. Secondly, they point out that the top image, which serves to identify the subject, is of a woman in Taiwan, although the article appears to concentrate mostly on mainland China. I find it hard to believe that one can generalise about da ma's in both countries where culture has been diverging since 1949 (even though Chinese leaders might claim that it is all one country). Storye book (talk) 21:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The English-language sources I reviewed describe "Chinese damas" as having the literal meaning "Chinese big mamas" or "Chinese big mother", so I don't consider the hook to be inaccurate or misleading. I cannot use another literal meaning as that would violate Wikipedia:No original research. I am open to alternative hooks being proposed.

"Chinese damas" is a term that has had multiple meanings over time. This article discusses those multiple meanings. I don't think discussing the historical background of why the term has multiple meanings violates WP:DICDEF.

Regarding, "some of my Chinese friends and acquaintances who have lived and worked for some years in several of the largest cities in China tell me that they have never heard of da ma's behaving in the way described in the article", this is original research. The article is based on what reliable sources say about damas. From Wikipedia:No original research#Verifiability, "Wikipedia's content is determined by previously published information rather than by the personal beliefs or experiences of its editors."

I've removed the photo.

Cunard (talk) 08:36, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The original research rule applies to the article only. It is permissible to use original research to suggest improvement (of e.g. neutrality) of an article on the article's talk page or on a discussion template such as this. Storye book (talk) 10:40, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 6[edit]

International Habitation Module

Created by Seddon (talk). Self-nominated at 23:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Red XN - Not interesting to a broad audience.

QPQ: Red XN - x - Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Transquaking_River - noted by Seddon talk 19:13, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg (t · c) buidhe 20:37, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I thought the original hook could have been interesting, but maybe it's because I have an interest in astronomy and spaceflight, and I do understand where the concerns about lack of interest to a broad audience are coming from. With that said, perhaps a hook about it being the main habitat module of the Lunar Gateway or a hook about it being planned to launch at the same time as a crewed Orion spacecraft would work? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The ones about "stealing" the payload have promise and could work as April Fools hooks, but I'd like to hear other thoughts on the matter (in any case, they're better than the original hook). @Buidhe: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:14, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know about how April Fool's hooks are done but is it verifiable? The article doesn't mention "steal". (t · c) buidhe 03:16, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The article says that it could "switch" launch providers, which isn't necessarily a "steal". However, for AFD hooks we do tend to be more loose with the allowed wordings, hence why I suggested that those wordings could work for AFD (they would be too imprecise to work on any other date). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:56, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, while ALT4 could work in case the "steal" hooks don't work out (and unlike those hooks, could probably run on a regular set on the quirky slot), the issue right now is that the article makes no mention of the arm being "optional" (in addition, there's a minor typo in a nearby sentence: "maybe" instead of "may be"). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging Buidhe for another look. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I'm not sure, so I'll let someone else evaluate the alternate hooks. (t · c) buidhe 02:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • If we have to to go with an April Fools Day hook, I think ALT3 is the best option since it's both accurate and quirky at the same time, without giving away too much (which seems to meet the spirit of DYK hooks more). Given concerns with the "steal" wording I'm only supportive of that term being used if it's an April Fools hook, but I guess others can also have other opinions. I don't think ALT4 is usable on any date as nowhere in the article suggests that the Canadarm that will be used for the module is "optional". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have to note that the nominator proposed a new hook above as a possible AFD hook (ALT5), but I'm also leaning against it for the same reasons as ALT4: the article doesn't state that the arm in question is "optional". In addition, said hook talks about the right to "bear arms", but unless it's referring to the "robotic surfaces" mentioned in the article then it appears the subject only has one arm, so the hook is inaccurate too. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:01, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5, are you going to approve any of these hooks for AFD or not? If not, and you think we need another opinion, please ask for it at WT:DYK, because AFD is fast approaching. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:32, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset: I would very much welcome another opinion. I myself have an interest in astronomy and spaceflight and so my opinion on if the hooks are interesting or not may be skewed, so I was hoping for a second opinion from a more disinterested editor. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:38, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am disinterested in space-related topics, and I think ALT1 is interesting. What is the source for this hook? The copyright concerns here still need to be addressed before it can be approved. There are also a few instances of WP:CITEFOOT errors, where the reference comes after the punctuation and a space, which also needs to be cleaned up. Eagles 24/7 (C) 21:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

None of these hooks are AFD-ish IMO, except ALT5, which is simply inaccurate and thus disqualified. Gatoclass (talk) 03:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't oppose the hooks running as regular hooks, perhaps in the quirky slot? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:41, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now that AFD has largely passed, the April Fools stuff is now largely moot. Still, we need a final decision on the hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:55, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I have struck the original hook, ALT2, ALT3, and ALT5 per comments above, leaving ALT1 and ALT4 as possibilities for regular hooks, since AFD is past. Reviewer needed to check these hooks. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:01, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg Okay, since no one else has picked up this nomination and the planned-for-AFD hooks have now been struck (all of which I had reservations about), I'll be taking over the review. As I mentioned before, ALT4 is problematic: the hook states that the IHM has multiple arms and that they are "optional", when neither of them are stated in the article (the article only mentions a single arm, and it's not "optional"). That leaves us with ALT1. ALT1 I think is okay, the problem is the link to SpaceX is an easter egg; it might be better to mention SpaceX explicitly then mention that it's a commercial company than the easter egg thing. ALT1 is not the best hook but per an above comment it may have some promise. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Narutolovehinata5: I've added an ALT6. The copyright issue is driven by unavoidable technical names. I've also fixed the citefoot issues. Seddon talk 00:39, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT6 may need to be revised because not everyone may be familiar with SpaceX. Given that the core hook fact is the module potentially being brought to the moon by a commercial company, it may be a good idea to mention that SpaceX is one. Also, I do have some concerns about WP:CRYSTAL and so maybe the hook needs to be revised to clarify that it's only a proposal for now and SpaceX (or any commercial company for that matter) bringing it to the moon is still not sure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:42, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've taken a look at ALT7 and I'd word the first part as "the design of the IHM" rather than "the IHM design". In addition, the article notes that it launching on the Falcon Heavy is only a possibility and as of right now the plan is still to launch it on SLS; thus, the hook needs to be clarified to reflect this. On looking at the article again, I noticed a fact I had originally missed: virtual reality was used by ESA for crew training. Perhaps a hook based on that can also be proposed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the edits. The nomination is almost good to go; I have struck all hooks except for ALT7 and ALT8. My only remaining concern is that the article may still need some copyediting for grammar. The nomination will be approved once this has been accomplished. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 7[edit]

Tek Fog

  • ... that the web application Tek Fog was used by BJP to amplify right wing propaganda among Indians? Source: the app Tek Fog is used by users to "amplify right-wing propaganda to a domestic audience." The Indian news outlet also claimed the app had links to India's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). Deutsche Welle
    • ALT1: ... that the web application Tek Fog was used to amplify right wing propaganda among Indians? Source: Same as above.
    • ALT2: ... that according to The Wire, the web application Tek Fog was used to amplify right wing propaganda among Indians? Source: Same as above.
    • Reviewed: Exempt
    • Comment: Page was on AfD so DYK was out of consideration in that period. AfD closed today as keep so nominated for DYK today.

Created by Venkat TL (talk). Self-nominated at 12:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment This cannot go unattributed, AT ALL. TrangaBellam (talk) 14:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The contents of the article are currently contested, as the author is aware. It is requested that the DYK nomination is not accepted till outstanding issues are resolvedCaptain Jack Sparrow (talk) 11:04, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I am not sure the last comment by User:CapnJackSp has been made in good faith. Several politically motivated IP users first tried to delete the article. AfD was closed as Keep. And now this guy is asking for an indefenite hold on on flimsy grounds. The article has 29 mentions of Wire and it is sufficiently attributed.Venkat TL (talk) 13:34, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Don't confuse me with other editors. You haven't added attribution to the very first sentence of the article. I can say more but this needs to be fixed first. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 14:48, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. No QPQ needed for a nominator with less than five QPQ credits. However, there are multiple issues with the article:
  • Firstly, several paragraphs in the article lack references or have a citation needed template.
  • Secondly, there is no clear description of exactly what the app even is, only what The Wire says about how it hacks. The article doesn't make it clear if Tek Fog is an app that is downloadable by App Stores and thus usable by an end-user, or a secret app that is not willingly or knowingly installed by users. It also doesn't state when it was first released or at least first known, as well as missing other basic app information.
  • Thirdly, the article doesn't seem to meet either WP:NPOV or WP:UNDUE. The article is almost entirely about criticisms about the app, which seems undue weight in my opinion. At the very least, apart from the aforementioned issue about a lack of descriptions about the app itself, there should be more inclusions about denials and statements (or lack thereof) by relevant people in the article. The article lede notes that The ruling BJP and the prime minister Narendra Modi were silent.; however, this statement is completely unreferenced and is not mentioned anywhere else in the body. The denials in the article (under the section "Reactions of BJYM, Persistent Systems and ShareChat") are limited to a single paragraph: are these really the only denials given thus far by people or companies involved? If that is all that is available then that would be acceptable, but this needs to be clarified, and in any case I think the article may need some trimming since it focuses too much about the reactions to the app rather than the app itself.
  • Fourthly, the article may need clarifications for non-Indian readers. For example, "BYJM" is mentioned in the article but is not defined anywhere in the text (the lede mentions a "BJP youth wing", but the connection must be made clear).
  • Fifthly, the article needs a copyedit. Mentions of media outlets, such as The Wire, The Hindu, or Washington Post, need to be italicized. The article text also needs revising for grammar and other issues.
  • Finally, multiple concerns have been raised on the article talk page, and as far as I can tell, most have not been addressed.
Right now the article needs a lot of work to be approved for DYK. Since I am largely unfamiliar with Indian politics, I would also appreciate any input from an uninvolved Indian editor or someone else familiar with the topic, but right now, in its current state, I think the article is not ready for DYK. I would also suggest that the article be brought to WP:GOCE or otherwise be copyedited by an uninvolved editor. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:32, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Citation needed tags fixed.
  2. It is a PsyOps software whose access is limited to the operators and their Org. I have included the link in the lead.
  3. What is available has been added. WP:FALSEBALANCE. I will work to add refs, as asked
  4. Fixed
  5. GOCE copyedit requested
  6. All major / relevant concerns raised on talk page have already been resolved. While reviewing the talk page, Be advised that many users with political POV just want this article deleted/bowdlerized etc. Please refer to the AfD discussion to understand.
I will ping the reviewer when I am done with #3 and others. Venkat TL (talk) 11:50, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your response to #2 needs to be clarified in the article itself, particularly in the lede and ideally in its own section. Rather than mentioning it in a section about The Wire's report, there should be a section about the app itself, perhaps using The Wire as a source. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:56, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I added it in the first line, I will flesh that part more as suggested.Venkat TL (talk) 12:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the edits. I will do the rest of the review once the copyedit has been done. However, I am still unhappy with the tone of the article and would welcome any second opinions regarding how to handle it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 24[edit]

Columbia University tunnels

A map of the Columbia University tunnels created by a student in 1999
A map of the Columbia University tunnels created by a student in 1999

Improved to Good Article status by Normsupon (talk). Self-nominated at 00:23, 25 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • I am reviewing Bruxton (talk) 19:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Approve ATL2 which is verified and interesting. The article is interesting. and was improved to GA on the 24th. It is neutral. The picture is inadequate - so if this runs, I would say no to the map/photo. QPQ is done and the article has the correct inline citations and claims are verified. One thing however is unclear: like radioactivity in the tunnels... one article says it is a myth and another has a student account. This article does not explain the radiation issue clearly yet makes the bold claim in the introduction that tunnels were closed due to "residual radiation". That is not in any of the RS. Finally, most of the opening paragraph is a direct copy and it should be rewritten. In particular this is directly from one reference: "Columbia University has an extensive tunnel system underneath its campus connecting many of its buildings, used by the university as conduits for steam, electricity, telecommunications, and other infrastructure" Bruxton (talk) 20:15, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bruxton The claim about the radioactivity in the tunnels has been removed from the lede. As for the first sentence, almost every source I could find that uses that wording appears to be based off of an earlier version of the article. For the sentence you quoted, it's impossible for that exact wording to have been copied from somewhere else, because if you look at the history of the article that phrasing comes from me reworking the previous lede that presumably dates from the late 2000s. Unfortunately, it is a little difficult to tell given that half of the article's history has been wiped due to earlier BLP violations. Normsupon (talk) 01:17, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Symbol confirmed.svg @Normsupon: Thanks for the message. You can say rumors of radioactivity. Great work on the article. Also: I should let others decide if the photo is sufficient. Bruxton (talk) 01:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Done @Theleekycauldron: Ok with me and it is more interesting. I just verified it with the reference as well. Bruxton (talk) 03:34, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @RoySmith: That ALT was not interesting to me. I accidentally identified the wrong ALT. I meant to say ALT1 one was interesting and confirmed - - Amelia Earhart - was interesting to me. But there is another ALT agreed upon now that does not include 1 or 2. In addition to that hook not being interesting to me, I could not verify it without the book. I will need to be more careful, and I am thankful for other editors like yourself. Bruxton (talk) 17:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Phylicia Whitney

Created by MrMeAndMrMe (talk). Self-nominated at 03:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg The hook as currently written isn't really interesting to a broad audience (being a presenter is by itself not really that eye-catching). Perhaps a hook about her award nominations or how, despite her presenting shows on technology and anime, her background is actually in theatre? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:28, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the suggestion. I was thinking that myself but thought it would be unfit or something. Thanks. MrMeAndMrMeLet's talk 23:10, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Personally I'd reword it as either:
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This nomination needs a full review, since one has never been done. Flibirigit (talk) 17:43, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - n
  • Other problems: Red XN - Hook does not appear in the text
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg I'm not sure that the subject of the article is notable. The hook doesn't appear in the text. A better hook, and perhaps adding some better sources explaining her significance is needed. I think this may have to be turned down completely. --evrik (talk) 02:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Evrik: What do you mean? "Whitney also works as a video journalist and producer, and was a reporter for multiple trade fairs relating to Anime" is directly stated in the article. The hook is very interesting in my opinion; not many journalists and producers will go to such lengths as making trade fairs for anime. Moving on to the notability, she was ranked as best women in the German games industry in the “Media” category in 2017 by a company and was nominated for another award. Perhaps could you give a link to a notability guideline? MrMeAndMrMeLet's talk 03:03, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hosting is different than reporting. The hook doesn't work for me. Are there better sources? Something outside the gaming industry? I'd hold my nose on the notability if a better hook could be found. --evrik (talk) 03:10, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I'm inclined to reject this. Anyone else wan to give a second opinion? --evrik (talk) 14:30, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair enough. I don't know why I worded it like that because it's blatantly wrong. MrMeAndMrMeLet's talk 18:15, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • For what it's worth, I agree that the currently proposed hook fact isn't spectacular. Personally I think it was more interesting that she became a tech journalist despite her background in theatre, and if someone could word it better than I did, I think it would be a better hook than the anime thing. I would not oppose the nomination being closed as unsuccessful if no other hooks can be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:35, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Giving this a shot, though if anyone can word it better than I did, feel free to do so.
ALT4 "... that prior to becoming a tech journalist, Phylicia Whitney apprenticed at a theater school and appeared in multiple theatrical productions?"
ALT4a "... that prior to becoming a tech journalist, Phylicia Whitney apprenticed at the Hanover Theatre for the Performing Arts and appeared in multiple theatrical productions?"
The main issue here is that her education in Hanover currently lacks a footnote, and so if this hook is to be used, the relevant footnote has to be added. Thoughts @Evrik and MrMeAndMrMe:? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:43, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alt 5 "... that prior to becoming a tech journalist, Phylicia Whitney graduated with a degree of editing from the Cologne University of Applied Sciences?
--evrik (talk) 04:59, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Alt4 looks fine to me, alt 5 isn't too interesting in my opinion. MrMeAndMrMeLet's talk 18:23, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Given that Evrik proposed a new hook, a new reviewer will be needed to make a final choice in hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:27, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Evrik: is the notability question a serious hold-up? we may want to notability-tag the article and try to resolve it that way. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The hook is the biggest issue. --evrik (talk) 05:09, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 1[edit]

Khin Ma Ma Maw

Premier Ba Maw and his wife Consort Maw at the Coronation of George VI in 1937
Premier Ba Maw and his wife Consort Maw at the Coronation of George VI in 1937

Created by Taung Tan (talk). Self-nominated at 15:02, 1 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg some strange sentences that might need clarifying (I would do it myself if I understood Burmese), e.g. Ba Maw was a joint decision on the political affairs taken with his wife also some of the citations are missing page numbers Kingoflettuce (talk) 01:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kingoflettuce: I made some minor edits to clarfy some sentences, on behalf of Taung Tan. If you don't mind, pls check again. TIA. Htanaungg (talk) 08:37, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would you happen to know the page numbers being cited? Kingoflettuce (talk) 12:36, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kingoflettuce: Google Books, unfortunately, doesn't show page numbers for (Than 2013); otherwise, all have been added. Htanaungg (talk) 04:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would be helpful to explain what "nanyinwun kadaw" means, especially since there isn't an article for that Kingoflettuce (talk) 10:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This nomination needs a full review, since one has never been done. Flibirigit (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why review so longgggggg????? Taung Tan (talk) 09:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. The hook fact (that she was the first "Nanyinwun Kadaw") is mentioned in sentences in the article but they lack footnotes. I think the hook could also be revised to clarify that "Nanyinwun Kadaw" means the wife of the prime minister or (as far as I can tell) roughly Burmese for "First Lady". I think the article may also need some copyediting since there is some strange wording in the article (such as she made her husband... escaped from the prison and which thereafter she strangely started). Since the nominator has only three DYK credits a QPQ is not required here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:00, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd like to suggest that when a new ALT hook is proposed, at least one of the three uses of "Burma" is trimmed, and also the "the" in "the Burma's". Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:03, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset: I think the current hook could be split into two separate hooks. Perhaps either of these could work?
ALT1 ... that Khin Ma Ma Maw (pictured) was the first Nanyinwun Kadaw or First Lady of Burma?
ALT2 ... that Khin Ma Ma Maw (pictured) was the only First Lady of Burma during the the country's Japanese occupation?
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:34, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @BlueMoonset: Is it okay if you give ALT1 and ALT2 a look? The nominator hasn't edited since their last comment on March 20th despite a talk page message and if they don't respond soon and address the other concerns, the nomination may end up needing to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Symbol possible vote.svg Narutolovehinata5, I'm not excited by either ALT hook—"first" hooks aren't generally interesting, this one especially given the unfamiliar term, and "only first lady" strikes me as "so what?". What might work as a hook is that she was First Lady twice, first when Burma was controlled by the British (her husband lasted about two years) and a couple of years later by the Japanese, but the article needs more work before it can adequately support such a hook. The History section needs cleaning and expansion, especially for the first paragraph's final sentence, which is incomprehensible, and the bulk of the following paragraph. It's also unclear in her husband's article just when he was actually head of state when the Japanese loosened the reins somewhat: one place gives the dates as 1942 to 1945, and another from 1 August 1943 to March 1945; he had apparently become head of the government a year earlier, but that isn't the same thing, and it's unclear whether she would have been considered "first lady" at that point. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The nominator hasn't edited since March 20th despite a talk page message. There are issues with the hooks as well as the article. If another editor wants to adopt this nomination or the nominator returns then the nomination can continue, but otherwise it is now marked for closure as stale. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, I'm here. I support your ALT2 ... that Khin Ma Ma Maw (pictured) was the only First Lady of the State of Burma? _ Burma and State of Burma are not same. Taung Tan (talk) 16:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the new hook; however, the article issues remain unresolved. I'm also not sure if the hook can avoid confusion to those who do not know the distinction between the State of Burma and Burma/Myanmar. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:03, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 9[edit]

Killing of Jay Abatan

Moved to mainspace by Mujinga (talk). Self-nominated at 18:43, 14 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Mujinga my suggestion is to reword slightly: ALT1: ... that after Jay Abatan was unlawfully killed in 1999, his family continued to campaign for justice?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Nice work! Approved, pending feedback on the tweaked hook. paul2520 💬 18:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the review, I like ALT1 (with same sources) but I prefer to keep ALT0 in the running also, since it emphasises that the campaign is ongoing (there was a vigil this year in January). On my understanding this now needs a second reviewer since the original reviewer has proposed a new alt. Mujinga (talk) 22:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Mujinga (I, like, triple-checked this one) and Paul2520: Could the hook be rephrased? I'm uncomfortable with the connotation of "pursuing justice", since the killers haven't been convicted. It implies that we think they should be (and don't get me wrong, they should be, but...) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:34, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
i get that interpretation a bit on ALT1 but not really on ALT0 which I think follows the source more clearly in saying the family are still campaigning, not necessarily for the killers to be convicted (whoever they were), but more for clarity on what happened that night and the later police corruption Mujinga (talk) 22:37, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 13[edit]

Georgy Dokuchaev

Created by Grandmaster (talk). Self-nominated at 19:53, 13 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Question:Grandmaster is under an Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 topic ban per: this report. Does that affect Armenia or Azerbaijan related DYK nominations? TSventon (talk) 14:13, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    TSventon, as the nomination was posted before the ban was in force I think we can let it stand, but if during the process of review it requires changes, Grandmaster should not be making anything other than trivial changes to content. signed, Rosguill talk 19:51, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol delete vote.svg As the nominator was recently topic banned from the topic (see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive301#Grandmaster) and hasn't edited since the topic ban was imposed, unless another editor decides to adopt this the nomination is now marked for closure as stale. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:31, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • The nominated article has two citation needed tags to resolve, if it is adopted. Flibirigit (talk) 12:26, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sorry, I was busy in real life. I fixed references. Grandmaster 19:13, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This nomination needs a full review, since one has never been done. Flibirigit (talk) 17:47, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Looks like this one's been sitting around! New enough, long enough, sourcing accepted in good faith, neutral, plagiarism-free. Hook is cited, but not quite interesting, and no QPQ is required. This should probably be closed if no one's around to adopt, although we should give it another week since no one was aware of the problems till now. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:54, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]

Attack on Snake Island

Created by Elijahandskip (talk), PanNostraticism (talk), and NHCLS (talk). Nominated by Volunteer Marek (talk) at 07:54, 25 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Not sure what that means. Volunteer Marek 10:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That DYK doesn't post anything that could be deemed "current", which this is, but rather than say no outright, we could almost put it in reserve to be used sometime after if you want. Kingsif (talk) 11:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There’s no requirement in DYK that featured articles must be on “old stuff”. It seems the article fully meets all the criteria. Volunteer Marek 19:40, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, but there is a requirement that they be stable and that posting them to the MP is not likely to be perceived as a violation of Wikipedia's neutrality. Things this is far from meeting, in quite obvious ways. Kingsif (talk) 21:10, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any indication that the article is not stable? And if your concern is neutrality, then please state which parts are non-neutral, rather than bringing up irrelevant non-criteria (like "it's new"). Volunteer Marek 22:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I did not say it is new, I said it is current, that is very different. Surely you have heard of "current events" at some point. And I did not say any part of the article was not-neutral, I indirectly said that posting a hook about it could be perceived as a violation of Wikipedia's neutrality. Surely you can comprehend that putting a nominative resistance slogan of one side in a current war on the front page of a website claiming neutrality (no support for either) could give the opposite impression? I cannot take your continued "but"s seriously, there is nothing hard-to-grasp here, especially if you try to undermine my explanations by misquoting them. Kingsif (talk) 22:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ignoring your condescension (you obviously knew exactly what I was referring to), no, putting an article on a widely covered event does not violate Wikpedia's neutrality (whether it can be "perceived" as such by somebody is irrelevant). This is also a new argument you're making - your original one was that it couldn't be used because it was on... "current" (better?) events. You're moving the goalposts now and inventing new excuses. Volunteer Marek 00:09, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't know what you're on about, and no, being "current" (you know, the banner at the top of the article) is still my argument, I have just had to waste far too long over-explaining that to someone who has decided they will refuse to get the point so they can ignore reasonable objection. A current article, which if you don't know what that means you should certainly not be editing or nominating one for DYK, is inherently unstable and inherently contentious. ITN gives a neutral blurb, but doing any more than that is unwise. There are multiple facets as to why, which I tried to explain, unfortunately to someone who has decided they will trip over the simple word "current" and claim boo changing arguments and that's wrong rather than actually respond (spoiler: even if someone did in fact change argument, that would just mean multiple reasons to not post this, and you would have to counter all of them, rather than say they can be ignored for providing multiple reasons). If anyone here is being disingenuous it is certainly you. Kingsif (talk) 08:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ay, again with the condescension, apparently intended to obscure the fact that nothing you say has any basis in policy. Look. I've been here about 12 years longer than you, and I stopped counting my DYKs after the 100th one. There's absolutely nothing in the criteria or in any policy that says that "current" articles are "inherently unstable". In fact this article has been pretty stable, aside from some minor changes and improvements. But this isn't actually what seems to bother you. As you you kind of let it slip above, the real concerns appears to be that this article isn't "neutral". Because... .... ... ? Apparently because reality isn't "neutral", the way you want it. This happened. It's notable. It's covered in a plethora of reliable sources. It's got a catchy hook. It's long enough. It's new. It satisfies all the DYK criteria. Your only objection here boils down to a WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT. I'd appreciate it if you just dropped it and let someone else review it. Volunteer Marek 09:09, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Dude, I have said my piece, and your presumed seniority is still not a valid response. I am not condescending you, I am trying to make the issues you refuse to see so obvious you cannot deny them - no, you just ignore them, ugh. If you were to tweet "did you know Ukrainian border guards told the Russians to go fuck themselves", people would assume you supported Ukraine quite strongly. The DYK hook does not need to be phrased like that, but posting during a time of explicit tension between the nations (i.e. the subject is current!) is just not helpful. DYKs, of which I am no more novice than you, buddy, have been refused for less. As an additional element, I must sadly inform you that having a current banner is indeed inherent (at least, assumed) instability, in that it is one reason to fail a GAN on stability grounds. It is not that I don't like anything; I have been working on the article as much as you and would like to see it recognised. No, I am trying to protect the DYK section. It is so useful to encouraging editing but often disparaged and any scandal could get some MP editors to more firmly suggest removing it for a full-column TFA. Nothing I have pointed out is baseless or unreasonable, and I have to assume from your latest reply that your actual opposition is because of some superiority you feel here, so you will just reject every valid argument in nonsense ways. Best to drop the stick and wait for someone else to chime in. Kingsif (talk) 09:53, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree/Oppose. While the Ukrainians guards were brave, this is a small part of a much bigger conflict. I also agree with Volunteer Marek. Tetizeraz - (talk page) 15:19, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

”Disagree” is not the way that DYK process works. The question is does it satisfy the DYK criteria? Volunteer Marek 19:40, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: title changed to Attack on Snake Island. Volunteer Marek 22:23, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: Red XN - Not done

Overall: Symbol question.svg @Volunteer Marek: Unless I'm missing something, I think this needs a QPQ? Also noting I de-dab'd the link to Ukraine, added a link to Russia (we should link to both countries or neither; either linking both or linking neither would be fine), and updated the link to the Snake Island article now that it's been moved and bolded it.

{{Current}} is not one of the WP:DISPUTETAGs, and so is no reason to reject the nom.

Stability isn't a DYK requirement, but even if it were, this article shows no recent signs of edit warring or instability.

I see no problems with the neutrality of the hook: stating the mere fact of the soldiers' response ("GFY") doesn't imply, in my view, any support of the soldiers on the part of Wikipedia. By comparison, we have right now these hooks on the main page:

  • "... that Bianca Baptiste was Tottenham Hotspur's top goal scorer during their promotion—and then they dropped her from the team?", which doesn't imply that Wikipedia is saying in its own voice that she should not have been dropped from the team.
  • "... that the Louis Micheels House was called a building of "great significance", but the new owners wanted it gone?" doesn't imply that Wikipedia is saying it disagrees with the owners.
  • "... that the captain of the warship CSS Baltic stated that she was "about as fit to go into action as a mud scow"?" isn't anti-CSS Baltic or imply any criticism of the warship by Wikipedia.

These are three hooks on the main page right now, but the archive is filled with such examples. I don't see ALT0 as pro-Ukraine or anti-Russia; it's simply relaying a verified and interesting fact.

Add a QPQ link and ping me and I'll give it the green checkmark. If any editor disagrees at that point, I think WT:DYK would be the place to resolve the disagreement. Levivich 04:31, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Levivich: You know your comparisons are making a false equivalency, right? The context and knowledge bases are not comparable (tensions heightened during actual war, readers care less about things they have not heard of before). But, even so (or perhaps as a more equal comparison*), a couple days ago we ran a hook about Demi Lovato getting into an internet feud, appended "- and lost", and Lovato's Twitter fans were not happy, thinking Wikipedia was choosing to be insulting. *If people who are aware of Demi Lovato did not like the perfectly neutral and factual account of their internet "war", how are people who are aware of Ukraine and Russia going to react to something about a very real war? I feel confident in saying that the twitterverse, at least, will react if this hook gets onto the main page any time soon. Maybe that won't have any affect on DYK, but maybe it will. I would like to be better safe than sorry. (I also disagree with your stability assessments, but let's cut to the chase: waiting until a war is over before shilling fun facts about it is just common sense.) Kingsif (talk) 19:13, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with Levivich and VolunteerMarek. The hook accurately and neutrally reports the response of the Ukrainian soldiers. It's a solid hook. Cbl62 (talk) 18:20, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, this is a fine DYK entry that meets all the requirements (except QPQ as the reviewer outlines). Lagrange613 19:31, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm really sorry about lack of QPQ. I got unexpectedly very busy in real life. I will try to complete it later today. Volunteer Marek 19:43, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Volunteer Marek and Lagrange613: I'm happy to provide a QPQ if needed :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 23:46, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I like this as a DYK subject. My concern is that DYKs are usually surprising – usually things that the reader doesn't know – and the fact in ALT0 has been widely reported and is still being reported in the media. I feel that something a little more surprising would better fit the 'interesting' criteria (rule H7). Suggestion what if we did an ALT about the postage stamp? According to Commons (here) Ukrainian postage stamps are in the public domain, so we could even use it in the picture slot (though we would likely have to wait for the stamp to be officially issued - the NYPost source says it will be published "soon"). A hook about the stamp might also do away with any objections from using the f-word. Proposed alt below (feel free to rework it). – Reidgreg (talk) 21:59, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: That Ukraine issued a postage stamp (pictured) commemorating the attack on Snake Island only a month after the event? (Note: hold per WP:CRYSTAL.)
Okay, this has been going on a bit long. I'm donating Template:Did you know nominations/Mattea Conforti as a QPQ and pinging Levivich to wrap up this nom with ALT0 (or ALT1, given that this nomination has lagged so long that we'd look like Internet Explorer). theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 21:58, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding ALT1, do we have any confirmation that the stamp was actually issued? Because right now it seems it is just a plan.Anonimu (talk) 08:35, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't find any news updates since about March 13–15. The Ukrposhta website's online store stamp catalog, which appears to be chronological, only shows one stamp released since February 2022. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, TLC. I've re-checked the article as of today, and made a few minor edits (removing old tags, updating a source). Symbol confirmed.svg ALT0 approved. I'm not approving ALT1 only because I cannot find a source that says the stamp has been "issued" (as opposed to planned to be issued). Levivich 17:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 26[edit]

Male Fantasy

Improved to Good Article status by Infsai (talk). Self-nominated at 10:37, 27 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm not entirely sure if either of these hooks are interesting enough for a DYK. The alternative is more interesting than the first but I'm wondering if there are another facts about the article to suggest? GamerPro64 01:50, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Infsai: In case you missed my review. GamerPro64 01:23, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Left the nominator a message on March 31st and gave them a week to respond. If they are unable to return to this nomination by April 7th the nomination could be marked for closure as unsuccessful. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:14, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 27[edit]

Lloyd Madden

  • ... that after leading college football in scoring, Lloyd Madden played one season of pro football and earned enough to finish school, pay all his debts and have money in the bank? Source: Here: "The former Oredigger star earned enough moeny the last season to finish school, pay all his debts and have money in the bank."

5x expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Needs QPQ. Hook is not mentioned in the article anywhere with regards to the debt and have money in the bank. Even if it were included in the article word for word, it too closely paraphrases the source and the source isn't in the public domain, so that's not OK. Therapyisgood (talk) 21:24, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cbl62: It has been over a week since the review and a QPQ still hasn't been provided. DYK guidelines suggest that a QPQ be provided within one week of a reminder. Please accomplish one as soon as possible, thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:29, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, Naruto. I hadn't seen the review. Will address it prompbtly. Cbl62 (talk) 02:43, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 1[edit]

Christian Herwartz

Christian Herwartz in 2008
Christian Herwartz in 2008
  • ... that Christian Herwartz SJ (pictured) was a worker-priest in France and co-founded a community in Berlin open to people in need regardless of nationality, faith and reason? Source: several
    • ALT1: ... that Christian Herwartz SJ (pictured) lived in an open community in Berlin from 1978 to 2016, and held "street exercises" and peace prayers? Source: several
    • Reviewed: Holocaust humor
    • Comment: I am not sure that "community" is understood - Kommunität - housing in a few rooms with many beds each, open for all who need that - is there a better word?
Check please Intentional community. Maybe it fits your need. CeeGee 11:31, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Created by MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment, I've made a cropped version of the image if you'd prefer to have just Herwartz in the picture. Panini! • 🥪 13:16, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, yes, that's more focused on him --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. A QPQ has been done and no close paraphrasing has been found. I think the first hook is the more interesting of the two proposals; however, the hook facts are not directly cited in the article. That is, the relevant references are mentioned in other parts of the relevant paragraphs, rather than the actual sentence in question. In addition, the nationality, faith and reason" phrasing is only mentioned in the lede (without a reference), and the words "nationality" and "reason" are not mentioned in the article body under that context. Since the sources are all in German I am assuming good faith for their information. Finally, I would suggest removing "SJ" from the hooks as MOS:POSTNOM discourages the use of post-nominals outside of specific circumstances such as article ledes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for a helpful review, Narutolovehinata5! I revisited the sources and used their phrasing in lead and article, so also in the hook:
    ALT0a ... that Christian Herwartz SJ (pictured) was a worker-priest in France and co-founded a community in Berlin open to people in need without asking for a reason? Source: Gessler and others
    I wonder if his response "that would be a police question" can be used, - my language skills are too limited.
    I copied the ref about France to almost all sentences which are summarized in the hook. "SJ" is not a honorific suffix, but defines that he is part of a religious order, and which, - just two letters which will tell readers who know such things a lot. IAR? More important for ALT1, though. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would strongly advise against including SJ in the hook. MOS:POSTNOM strongly discourages it and I don't think there's a good reason here as to why it should be exempted per IAR. If it's absolutely necessary to mention that he's a Jesuit priest, the hooks could instead be changed to start like "that Jesuit worker-priest Christian Herwartz..." Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:50, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am strongly against "Jesuit worker-priest Christian Herwartz", because he wasn't a worker-priest after he retired, and that's precisely when he lived in the community. Misleading. - I am against all descriptions because two letters are just more succinct. POSTNOM deals with "has received honours or appointments", - SJ is not an honour or appointment. The guideline seems not to cover this situation, also it is a guideline for articles, not DYK hooks, where we try to keep things short, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I use the cropped version of the pic now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:38, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
While religious orders are not directly mentioned at MOS:POSTNOM, the section does link to post-nominal letters, which mentions, among other things, "a member of a religious institute". "SJ" is also specifically mentioned as an example in Post-nominal letters#Examples. Even if religious orders are not directly mentioned in MOS:POSTNOM, if we follow the spirit of the letter, "SJ" would also not be allowed in the hook (it could still be allowed in the article lede, just not the hook). Finally, while MOS:POSTNOM largely applies to articles, DYK does still tend to follow the spirit of MOS in general and so arguably it would still apply for hooks. Plus, if the intent to include "SJ" was to "keep things short", then dropping those extra two letters would make the hook even shorter. It's really unnecessary for the purposes of the hook given it already mentions that he's a priest. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:48, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for telling me that two letters less is shorter, - not without sarcasm, can't help. - Being a priest does not imply anything about being member of a monastic order, let alone which order. I still believe that it helps those who understand SJ, and there's a link for the others. In the spirit of information. Again, if a prep builder feels that it's not helpful, they can drop it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I brought the matter up at WT:DYK and they said that SJ is unnecessary to the main hook fact and also violates MOS:POSTNOM, which gives specific exceptions (which doesn't include DYK hooks). Thus, it seems that the SJ mention has to be removed per comments made by other editors. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I replied there. In greater length then, following the letter of a guideline:
    ALT0b: ... that Christian Herwartz (pictured) became a Jesuit worker-priest in France, and co-founded a community in Berlin open to people in need without asking for a reason?
    ALT1a: ... that Christian Herwartz (pictured), a Jesuit who lived in an open community in Berlin from 1978 to 2016, held "street exercises" and peace prayers?
    I prefer ALT1 because of the peace prayers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:07, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 4[edit]

Decome

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 06:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Needs a better hook --evrik (talk) 17:57, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Lullabying: are there any sources that describe how decome were eclipsed by emojis in texting? That would be the root of a good hook. --evrik (talk) 21:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3: ... that deco mail was the first messaging to use emojis, but it was eclipsed with the advent of social media and messaging apps?
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Review of new hook needed. --evrik (talk) 01:44, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think ALT3 is fine but I would have to look for evidence on whether that is true. lullabying (talk) 03:12, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Lullabying: If you can't substantiate Alt3 with a source, do you have I can approve? --evrik (talk) 20:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 5[edit]

Earlonne Woods, This Is Ear Hustle

Converted from a redirect by Damien Linnane (talk). Self-nominated at 09:36, 5 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 7[edit]

2022 Ukrainian refugee crisis

Ukrainian refugees crossing into Poland
Ukrainian refugees crossing into Poland
  • ... that since the start of the Russian invasion, over 4 million Ukrainian refugees have left Ukraine, the fastest-growing refugee crisis in Europe since the Second World War? Source: “Ukraine has fastest-growing refugee crisis since second world war, says UN
    More than 1.5 million people reportedly crossed into neighbouring countries since Russia invaded”
    “The Russian invasion of Ukraine has triggered the fasting-growing refugee crisis in Europe since the second world war, according to the head of the UN’s refugee agency.”
    The Guardian     Symbol confirmed.svg

Created by Thriley (talk), Ziko (talk), and Leaky.Solar (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 02:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Annoyingly my ITN nomination has been closed on the grounds that this is part of the ongoing 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine which is already "in the news". So I will review this. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:54, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Symbol question.svg Thriley New enough, long enough

Please shorten the "Alleged unequal treatment at the borders" section to summary style.

Also given the discussion at Talk:Ukrainian_refugee_crisis#Pictures_of_refugees,_especially_minors do you want a picture or not? If so which pic?

Optional - translate titles of non-English cites (trans-title param).

Happy with your hook but have proposed a shorter alternative if you prefer. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:17, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for your help. I will do some editing. A photo would be good. I like the current photo of people sheltering under the bridge. Is it of high enough quality for the main page? Maybe there are other photos? I looked a few days ago, but there must be more now. Not sure if all of them have been categorized properly. Thriley (talk) 19:43, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The image was changed. I like this new one better. Thriley (talk) 20:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thriley It does not have to be the lead pic if you prefer another. There is no guarantee that a pic will be added but if you suggest one the DYK co-ordinators will decide later depending on quality and other DYK pics. You probably also need to tell them which hook you prefer - I prefer the shorter one as more punchy. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Chidgk1: I just added a photo to the nomination. Both hooks are fine. I’d like to leave the choice up to the DYK team. Thank you again for your help. Thriley (talk) 02:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Symbol confirmed.svg All OK. Note to co-ordinators - as this is topical it would be great if you could put it in as soon as possible. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg unfortunately, this is gonna be on hold pending the DYK RfC on Russia/Ukraine. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:36, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Theleekycauldron I am having trouble finding this Rfc - could you link please Chidgk1 (talk) 11:30, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Chidgk1: of course, sorry about that! You can find it here. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 17:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Symbol possible vote.svg The RfC is over, but I still have stability concerns about this one. Since the DYK review was carried out on March 8, this article has received over 500 substantial edits, massively skewing its content and authorship. It's still receiving over 50 edits a day. I don't think we can guarantee that this one is going to meet DYK standards by the time it hits the main page. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 20:07, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: I’ve been keeping watch of the article. While it is an evolving news story, I have not seen many serious issues come up with the new edits. Everything appears to be cited with reliable sources. It would be great to see this on DYK, especially since it was denied at ITN. Thriley (talk) 00:53, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: I agree with Thriley Chidgk1 (talk) 07:00, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

50 edits in just the last 19 hours, many of them quite substantive. I'm sorry, I haven't changed my position on this one. What do others think? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:49, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I want to note that this nomination was taken off the main DYK nomination page during the Ukraine/Russia RFC and was not put back until yesterday. Thriley (talk) 00:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lunar Atmospheric Composition Experiment

Created by Seddon (talk). Self-nominated at 16:49, 14 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The hook is great, but it can't be easily verified because the cite is to a 656-page document – the footnote in the article needs to give the page numbers of the document that it is referencing. The article length is okay, the move-to-user-space date versus filing date is okay, the article neutrality is okay.
It look like you have had five DYK nominations in the past, so a QPQ review needs to be done.
The article has an orphan tag on it that needs to be resolved. At the very least, there should be links to this from the Apollo 17 and Atmosphere of the Moon articles.
The article has a missing categories tag that also needs to be resolved. These could include Category:Lunar science, Category:Apollo 17, and Category:Apollo program hardware.
And the article needs a proofreading, as there are several passages that don't read right, have added words, are missing words, or are missing antecedents. Some of these include It likes freezes out and is adsorbed ... and During the experiments tenth lunar month the experiment developed a problem ... and The sum of all the known detected by LACE matches ... and ... and the seismic charges had been detonated, but there are likely others. Wasted Time R (talk) 13:01, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 9[edit]

1917 Minsk City Duma election

Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 12:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg A full review will follow, but right now I have reservations if the currently-proposed hook is interesting to a broad audience. The connections aren't made clear to those unfamiliar with Belarusian politics and history, particularly what the significance of Vaynshteyn becoming a city council chairman is. Can another hook be proposed here, one that would be interesting or at least clearer to those unfamiliar with the history of Belarus? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I get your concern, but at same time the factoid that a Jewish socialist party won the chairmanship in the city seems to be the most DYK-worthy element in the article? --Soman (talk) 13:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The connection is not clear at all and does not meet the broad interest criterion. Readers will not immediately get the socialist or Jewish connection. Please propose a new hook with a completely different hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:15, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Coincidance (song)

  • ... that according to the song, two men who met by “Coincidance” went on to bring world peace? Source: "Hilarious Video of Two Dancers Who Meet By "Coincidance" Hits 17M Views". The Music Man. 2021-01-06. Retrieved 2022-03-09.

Created by HenryTemplo (talk). Self-nominated at 12:43, 13 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg eh, not sure the source is reliable and the hook needs to relate to the real world is some way anyhow. Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 21:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, looking at it more, I don't even think it meets GNG, much less the other DYK criteria. Sorry but I'm nominating it for deletion too Kingoflettuce (talk) 21:23, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Erratus

A diagram reconstruction of Erratus sperare
A diagram reconstruction of Erratus sperare

Created by Fossiladder13 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:15, 9 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New and long enough, QPQ exempt (QPQ Check results), as the nominator has less than five DYK credits, all non-lead ¶ with citations, a copyvio check reveals no problems, hook content is interesting. An immediate problem is that all of the hook content is not present in the article. Nowhere in the article does it state that the Erratus was the first arthropod to evolve legs. This notion is also not directly mentioned in the source provided atop. Rather, the source alludes to the notion, stating, "Erratus sperare provides the missing link between arthropods that used such specialized flaps and arthropods with biramous limbs. It has both legs and flaps." However, the source does not directly state that it was the first to evolve legs. North America1000 09:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Seconding North America's comment and wanted to elaborate a bit. One issue with the whole notion of "first lifeform to evolve" statements are that they're never entirely accurate. They may be the earliest that we know of at the moment, but this is simply due to limitations on the ever-expanding nature of knowledge. Any statement like "the first x to do y" is going to fall flat with time (remember Archaeopteryx? Probably wasn't the first bird after new discoveries emerged), so its safest (if the hook source is accurate in the first place) to replace "first" with "earliest known". Ornithoptera (talk) 11:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 10[edit]

Racial segregation in the United Kingdom

5x expanded by Davidjes601 (talk). Nominated by Zeromonk (talk) at 15:27, 16 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg How are you measuring the 5x expanison? There are a couple of tags on the article. The text should be given a copyedited. Perhaps refer this to the Guild of Copyeditors? The first two sentences should be rewritten for clarity. There are a couple of grammatical errors in the text. Also, the hook seems to be a double negative. I would rewrite the hook as well. --evrik (talk) 13:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vanita Jagdeo Borade

Vanita Jagdeo Borade receiving the Nari Shakti Puraskar
Vanita Jagdeo Borade receiving the Nari Shakti Puraskar

Created by Mujinga (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 15:10, 12 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

alt0a is fine. Victuallers (talk) 11:11, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol possible vote.svg The article was created two days prior to being nominated, so it counts as new. At around 1900 characters, it is also long enough. The article appears to be neutral and is free of copyright violation issues according to Earwig's Copyvio Detector. One paragraph is unsourced, which makes for a large portion of the article in relation to its overall size. The content of this paragraph also seems to stray away from the subject of the article. These issues have to be addressed.
The hooks are concise, interesting, and sourced, but for some reason the fact is repeated twice in the article. I recommend cutting out the repetition. The word "president" should not be capitalized; see MOS:JOBTITLES.
The article currently contains one image too many relative to its size, leading to the contravention of MOS:SANDWICH. While not a deal-breaker, I recommend removing one image to make the article layout more presentable. In my opinion the portrait with the snake would make a fine lead (and hook) image given that it illustrates what the subject is known for, but I see no indication that its copyright belongs to the Government of India, i.e. that it is free to use on Wikipedia. This must also be clarified. Surtsicna (talk) 19:18, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The paragraph source and repeated hook have been addressed. Joofjoof (talk) 01:51, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to request that the word "must" should not be used so freely in reviews. The image has not been clarified even though it "must" be. It has been removed instead.... and MOS:sandwich is suddenly a DYK requirement?? which "must" be addressed presumably. The word "must" does not encourage collaboration. We are improving Wikipedia because we want to (not because we "must"). Victuallers (talk) 16:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I must say I do not understand the defensiveness. Improving Wikipedia is not a must, but neither is passing a DYK review. There certainly are things that must be done for an article to appear on the Main Page. WP:DYKRULES uses "must" 18 times. One of those musts is that the nominated article must meet Wikipedia's copyright policy. Removing the image is fine as far as DYK is concerned. MOS:SANDWICH was not cited as a requirement. I was very clear about it not being a deal-breaker. Surtsicna (talk) 21:43, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I feel that there is a growing tendency to assert when a request is more than adequate and a quick change to the text is ideal. The reviewer is not "in charge" but a collaborator. I am not defending the article or myself or fellow contributors but I'm trying to prevent reviews turning into trials. (or attacking you!) The process does need to be defended. There is no "must" as we can all walk away. I much prefer to see errors fixed rather than listed, you may feel that changing President to president is important to itemise but I'd encourage anyone to just fix it. Victuallers (talk) 09:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I understand now what you mean. I much prefer making the changes myself, but very often the major contributor feels a tad bit possessive so with some things I try to suggest first. Surtsicna (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 11[edit]

Everything I Didn't Say

Ella Henderson performing in July 2014
Ella Henderson performing in July 2014

Moved to mainspace by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Hugh Gaine

  • ... that during the American Revolution Hugh Gaine's printing shop was attacked by the Sons of Liberty because of his wavering loyalty to the American cause? Source: Fellows, 2005, p. 45; Chopra, 2009, p. 274
    • Reviewed: QPQ Pending
    • Comment: A few minor edits were made by me in Nov. 2001. 5x expansion commenced on March 11, 2022. Statement and sources supporting hook can be found in the Printing career section, 2nd paragraph

5x expanded by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 01:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Nick Schmaltz

5x expanded by GhostRiver (talk). Self-nominated at 16:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 12[edit]

Disney and Florida's "Don't Say Gay" bill

Created by PanagiotisZois (talk). Self-nominated at 11:31, 14 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment The lede needs to be rewritten. The prose needs to be copy-edited. Just my two cents, this is not a review. --evrik (talk) 15:36, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The hook strictly needs rephrasing. Disney didn't help fund the bill, it donated to the bill's sponsors. That's not the same thing. Bills don't get funded as such, proposing bills is the politicians' job, they don't go out hat in hand asking for money for them to propose bills. In fact, if there were proof that they asked for or received money specifically for proposing a bill, that could well be impeachable or outright criminal. Maybe something like "during the reaction to Disney's response to Florida's ..."? Though "reaction to response" awkward - is there an even better suggestion? "Disney's support for"? Though the whole article is about the fact the support changed to opposition ... eh - good luck! Face-smile.svg I'd also not say "revealed", that's a loaded term implying this is true and the studio was hiding it, and not supported by the source which says "allege".

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg The copy-editing comments have a point, but it's not so bad as to make it ineligible for DYK. I'd personally recommend replacing the repeated phrase "released a statement" with "stated", "released a statement condemning" with "condemned", remove all the "according to X" in consecutive sentences, as it's obvious you're continuing to relate what X stated, etc. "Ownng" nd "involvment" bth nd vwls. The Quid pro Quo DYK review is necessary, as nominator has 8 previous DYK nominations. I see there is a move discussion as Antony22 suggests; I think it's worth moving to the correct name for the bill - though that won't be a blocker if it doesn't happen. The hook needs rephrasing as mentioned above. And yet, I think none of these things will be too hard to fix, and expect this to qualify for DYK soon. A nice article. GRuban (talk) 21:10, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 13[edit]

Richard Geiger

Pierrot and Pierrette by Richard Geiger
Pierrot and Pierrette by Richard Geiger

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 00:07, 17 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Are there any other possible hook options here? The hook as currently written doesn't seem to appeal to those unfamiliar with the character. The image helps but I would personally suggest going with a different hook direction in this case. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:23, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 15[edit]

Barbara Maier Gustern

Gustern in 1963
Gustern in 1963

Created by Thriley (talk), Strattonsmith (talk), and TJMSmith (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 02:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • New enough, long enough, QPQ done, passes earwig. --evrik (talk) 17:33, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wings over Kabul: The First Airlift

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 18:55, 22 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Guy Alfred Wyon

Guy Alfred Wyon by A.G. Wyon
Guy Alfred Wyon by A.G. Wyon

Created by Storye book (talk). Self-nominated at 11:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • ALT1: ... that Dr Guy Alfred Wyon (pictured) was part of the team which discovered a remedy for TNT poisoning in British shell factories in World War I, thereby preventing more deaths? (Source as above)

Dave Thomas (politician)

Moved to mainspace by Bkissin (talk), draft created by Kafoxe (talk). Nominated by Kafoxe (talk) at 23:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 16[edit]

Avtar Singh Jouhl

Created by Davidjes601 (talk) and Zeromonk (talk). Nominated by Zeromonk (talk) at 09:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Is "Good Beer Hunting" a reliable source? Joofjoof (talk) 20:29, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

German Tarok

Hearts - the suit of preference
Hearts - the suit of preference

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • It should be clearer that this is a quoted opinion and not Wikipedia's opinion, e.g. "that reportedly it isn't easy..." Joofjoof (talk) 20:33, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bald's eyesalve

Recipe from Bald's Leechbook
Recipe from Bald's Leechbook
  • ... that an Anglo-Saxon eye medicine (recipe pictured) has proven effective against MRSA? Source: "Our interdisciplinary team, comprising researchers from both sciences and humanities, identified and reconstructed a potential remedy for Staphylococcus aureus infection from a 10th century Anglo-Saxon leechbook. The remedy repeatedly killed established S. aureus biofilms in an in vitro model of soft tissue infection and killed methicillin-resistant S. aureus (MRSA) in a mouse chronic wound model ... One of Bald's remedies, a salve for a “wen” or lump in the eye (Fig. 1), is particularly interesting to the modern microbiologist." from: Harrison, Freya; Roberts, Aled E. L.; Gabrilska, Rebecca; Rumbaugh, Kendra P.; Lee, Christina; Diggle, Stephen P. (September 2015). "A 1,000-Year-Old Antimicrobial Remedy with Antistaphylococcal Activity". mBio. 6 (4). doi:10.1128/mbio.01129-15. ISSN 2161-2129.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 16:35, 16 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • REJECT!!! Any claim for a medical treatment, in this case antibiotic-resistant staph infection of the eye ("has proven effective"), requires that evidence meet the standards of WP:MEDRS, meaning, briefly, a review of more than one human trial. In Bald's eyesalve, all of the evidence is in vitro. In the cited reference, bacteria-infected mouse wounds were removed from the mouse and treated with the test product for four hours. This reduced the number of bacteria, i.e., killed bacteria, but there was no testing of actual wound healing. There is no live animal evidence, no infected eye evidence in an animal model, and a complete lack of human testing. The DYK should be rejected and the article radically revised to remove any implication that it is a potentially functional treatment rather than a historical curiousity. David notMD (talk) 23:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol possible vote.svg Hi David notMD, thanks for your message here and at my talk page. As you surmise I write mainly on history and came at this from that angle. I have no medical knowledge and have never written in that field (nor intend to in the future). I must confess to not being familiar with the part of WP:MEDRS that generally prohibits the use of research such as this, many thanks for bringing this up. I think I will go through the article and remove the majority of the "Studies on efficacy" section because of this. Placing on hold for now, if you could bear with me, I would appreciate your input once I have made changes. All the best - Dumelow (talk) 07:48, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've made the first trim. How does it look now? Striking the original and suggesting an ALT hook below - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... the Anglo-Saxons may have used a mixture of garlic, another Allium, wine and bovine bile to treat styes?
  • IMPROVED ALT1 is properly historical. Consider inserting "may have" before "used", as not known how widespread the use of the salve was. I recommend removing the sentence "Most modern styes are caused by Staphylococcus aureus and several studies have investigated the performance of Bald's eyesalve against this and other bacteria in laboratory conditions. No live animal or human tests have been carried out.[1][3][4][5]" from the article, as it still implies possible efficacy. You don't want home remedy people asking at slaughterhouses for bovine gallbladders! I also recommend not using references 4 (Furner-Purdoe) or 5 (Anonye). Also, remove the bacteria image. David notMD (talk) 08:46, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks David notMD, I've amended the hook to "may have", deleted the passage you suggested and added in the source on corneal blindness. I've shifted Furner and Anonye to further reading - Dumelow (talk) 09:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I removed Furner and Anonye from Further reading. I recommend more effort to remove specifics about this having potential modern-day medicinal value. The Brennesssel ref should be upgraded to a reference. David notMD (talk) 11:46, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What is the rationale for removing the "further reading"? I have trimmed the description of some of the specifics. I don't have access to Brennessel but would welcome you adding content if you do? - Dumelow (talk) 07:03, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am back to Reject. As it exists on 24 March, the article still has too much medical/health content not supported by WP:MEDRS.

  • "The eyesalve us described as a treatment for a "wen" (lump) in the eye, likely a stye, a bacterial infection of an eyelash follicle."[1] The authors of a 2015 science journal article are making an assumption of what was meant by a thousand-year old description of an ailment.
  • "Anglo-Saxon physicians may have used observation and experience to design anti-microbial treatments such as the eyesalve.[1]" A scientific concept of microbes and anti-microbial treatment did not exist until centuries later. See Microorganism.
  • Naming ingredients as containing anti-microbial compounds presumes the illness being treated was microbial.
  • "Bile is a surfactant and may also hold anti-bacterial properties; it is generally thought to prevent bacterial growth in the small intestine." This (unreferenced) statement has no connection to the types of bacteria that might be present in the eye, if in fact what the medievalists were treating was a bacterial infection.
  • "Wine may also contain small quantities of plant-based anti-microbial compounds" This is (weakly) based on our knowledge of present day wine. There is no information on the composition of 10th centufy wine.
  • "The copper-based vessels in which the salve was prepared may allow the leaching of copper salts into the mixture, which are known to limit bacterial growth. There is some evidence that Allium-derived anti-bacterials may work synergistically with copper." The metallic composition of the period-piece containers is not known. The "some evidence" is from present day in vitro research, clearly not WP:MEDRS. Same for speculation of purpose of a nine day storage.

All in all, I see no redemption for this proposed DYK. David notMD (talk) 00:13, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I've cut out all mention of styes and any mention of the ingredients performance against microbes. What remains is basically a description of the remedy and its preparation. Much reduced but still just above the minimum DYK length. Proposing another hook - Dumelow (talk) 09:47, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... the Anglo-Saxons may have used a mixture of garlic, another Allium, wine and bovine bile as an eye medicine?

I will look at again, with a fresh eye. Would anything be gained by having a translation of the text? David notMD (talk) 14:03, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing, I've added a transcription of the original text and the British Library's translation - Dumelow (talk) 14:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize for the delay. With the transcription and translation this has become a historical article versus a medicinal one. I will mark this as possibly aceptable pending an evaluation of the copyright situation. David notMD (talk) 20:22, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Symbol question.svg Article is new, long enough, Alt2 hook is interesting and citation supported by ref #1, QPQ met. Outstanding issue: the facsimile, reproduction of the text and translation are from ref #1. That science journal article describes this content as copyright by British Library Board, Reproduced with permission. David notMD (talk) 20:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 17[edit]

Anne Zelensky

Created by Ae1234ae (talk). Nominated by Paul2520 (talk) at 15:14, 23 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Doug (tuber)

Created by Jurta (talk). Self-nominated at 19:30, 19 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Sorry, I put this up for discussion at AfD coz it just seems like textbook WP:NOTNEWS to me. Hoping to stand corrected, because it's certain long & new enuf, very interesting, etc.! Kingoflettuce (talk) 01:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pytest

Pytest logo
Pytest logo
  • ... that technology projects from across the internet, including those of Mozilla and Dropbox, are switching to Pytest from other frameworks for software testing?

Quote: In fact, projects all over the Internet have switched from unittest or nose to pytest, including Mozilla and Dropbox.[1]

References

  1. ^ Okken, Brian (September 2017). Python Testing with Pytest (1st ed.). The Pragmatic Bookshelf. ISBN 9781680502404. Retrieved 19 March 2022.

Created by Thomas Meng (talk). Self-nominated at 01:29, 19 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg An interesting topic and clearly notable. However, the article is correctly tagged as being in need of rewriting, to be less like an instruction manual, and more like a NPOV article. And in that should make hopefully make the article understandable to a normal reader- I understand the article and its details, but only because I work in the field. This will need to be fixed before this DYK can proceed. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:41, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Joseph2302: Thank you for your feedback. In the past few days, I took up an effor to fix those issues you mentioned. Now I think the article is in better shape. Please let me know how far it is now from DYK's standard. Thank you. Thomas Meng (talk) 01:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 18[edit]

Judita Nagyová

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:21, 18 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Red XN - no

QPQ: Red XN - TBD
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I'm afraid that most readers won't grasp what's interesting or hooky about this hook (it's going over my head as well). (t · c) buidhe 21:51, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Juice (2017 film). Most readers - even if not into classical music - will know that symphony. In other words (and they changed the text to Freiheit! (freedom!), as after the fall of the Berlin wall:
ALT0a: ... that when the finale of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony was performed in Frankfurt's Alte Oper in a charity concert for Ukraine, Judita Nagyová from Slovakia was a solo singer? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:13, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
buidhe, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 19[edit]

Ignacy Korwin-Milewski

  • ... that Ignacy Korwin-Milewski amassed a collection of over 200 paintings by Polish artists, at the time one of the largest private collections of its kind? Source: Ryszkiewicz 1976, p. 210.
    • ALT1: ... that Ignacy Korwin-Milewski commissioned prominent Polish painters to make self-portraits in order to create a gallery modelled on the Uffizi? Source: National Museum in Warsaw, in Polish

Created by Marcelus (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 19 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Just a few small points that I wanted to address before moving forward with this article. Excellent research, by the way, this was interesting to read. So just a few points:
    • I'm partial to the first hook, but I think that in order to avoid assumptions (that 'collections of its kind' is referring to Polish paintings), it can be reworded to: ...amassed a collection of over 200 paintings by Polish artists, at the time one of the largest private collections of Polish art?
    • The claim that it was the largest private collection of its kind is missing from the article itself. Additionally, for such a bold claim, do you have an online source for it? Or at the very least, could you provide a brief snippet of the relevant part of Ryszkewicz's work for me to read? I can, at the very least, Google Translate it.
    • Within the article itself, there are two sections that I feel need citations but are missing. Specifically, Korwin-Milewski's list of collections (unclear if this is citation 7), and the sentences relating to Gutnajer and the German occupation, including the claim that it is unclear what the fate of Gutnajer's collection.
Otherwise, everything else seems to check out. No copyvios, no image suggested although the subject's portrait is public domain if you wish to use it. I believe this is your first DYK so no QPQ required, right?
Thanks again for the good read!--haha169 (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When Jews Were Funny, Being Canadian

10× expanded (When Jews Were Funny) and new article (Being Canadian) by Reidgreg (talk). Self-nominated at 02:27, 19 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: Thanks for the review! I've done some additional paraphrasing. For WJWF, one source still has over 10% Earwig score due to proper names and the quote from the TIFF jury, which I'd prefer to keep. For BC, the 13 and 14% scores are from proper names; the 17% score is from an illustrative review quote which I'd prefer to keep. As for citations, I feel it's up to DYK standards. The Synopsis sections are essentially the same as Plot sections for a non-documentary, using the work itself as the source. Are there any specific places you would like to be cited? (or in general if you feel there's a lot) – Reidgreg (talk) 07:08, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 20[edit]

Chow Leung, Chinese Fables and Folk Stories, Mary Hayes Davis

Chinese Fables and Folk Stories
Chinese Fables and Folk Stories
Chinese Fables and Folk Stories
Chinese Fables and Folk Stories

Created by Cielquiparle (talk). Self-nominated at 20:43, 23 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Joining Forces

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self-nominated at 10:48, 22 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Electricity sector in Turkey

Improved to Good Article status by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:29, 20 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I actually like the hook, but as far as I can tell it's not directly mentioned in the article. I also checked the source and it doesn't really say that electricity in Turkey in general flows from the east to the west, merely that in that case electricity was unable to "flow westwards". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:26, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Made an ALT1 a bit more precise with a more up to date source Chidgk1 (talk) 14:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

João Vieira and Poilão Marine National Park, Poilão

5x expanded by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self-nominated at 09:52, 20 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Han Nyein Oo

Created by Taung Tan (talk). Self-nominated at 09:49, 20 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 21[edit]

Death of Hacı Lokman Birlik

Created by Paradise Chronicle (talk). Self-nominated at 11:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Zebedee Nungak

Moved to mainspace by Ornithoptera (talk). Self-nominated at 00:10, 27 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 22[edit]

Frank H. Wadsworth

Frank Wadsworth in 2002
Frank Wadsworth in 2002
  • ... that prior to the passage of the Endangered Species Act of 1973, conservationist and researcher Frank H. Wadsworth (pictured) became involved with the efforts to recover the Puerto Rican parrot population? Source: Williams, Gerald W. The Forest Service Fighting for Public Lands. Greenwood Press, 2006. p. 301. ISBN 9780313337949.

Created by Jmoliver (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 19:58, 24 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

The Case of the Animals versus Man

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 01:13, 23 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

This article is actually quite interesting, although the lead section is confusing and needs some clarification. The proposed hooks though are not up to scratch, although there might be a valid AFD angle to be found somewhere in the article. Gatoclass (talk) 02:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gatoclass: Could you please elaborate? What in the lead needs clarification? (And what might be a valid AFD angle, if not the most eyebrow-raising aspect of the story, which is its very premise!!) Kingoflettuce (talk) 03:29, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looking back, I see I misread the phrase "The longest entry in the Encyclopedia, The Case of the Animals versus Man" as the name of the book, which confused me. However, it still could use a rephrase so that it can't be misread IMO. Also, I think the lead could use a bit of expansion.
With regard to the proposed hooks above, ALT0 above is accurate but clunky. The other two alts are simply not accurate, as they are passing off fictional events as real. Gatoclass (talk) 03:55, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One might perhaps go with something like:

- the deception there would be that most people will assume it's a Christian epistle since that is the usual context of the word "epistle". Gatoclass (talk) 04:22, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I always assumed on AFD one had more leeway to do things like pass off fictional events as real Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:36, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For me the interesting and humorous bit is the fact that talking animals (including a pig!) can quote the Qu'ran to great effect. Merely knowing that animals sued humans is a bit mild. Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:38, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Modified ALT2. Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gatoclass: Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:40, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Kingoflettuce, ALT2 would I think work fine as a standard quirky, but as there is no element of deception in it, it doesn't really suit as an AFD hook in my view. Gatoclass (talk) 02:43, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Perhaps a Ramadan hook then :D Kingoflettuce (talk) 12:34, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mann ministry

Bhagwant Mann, the Chief Minister of Punjab, India
Bhagwant Mann, the Chief Minister of Punjab, India

5x expanded by Venkat TL (talk). Self-nominated at 13:42, 22 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • I am not planning to review this nomination, but I have to note that the nominator is not exempt from QPQ. While they currently have four DYK credits, they have already made more than five DYK nominations. As such, they must do a QPQ for this nomination to pass. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:29, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As another comment, given that "greenhorn" may be jargon and thus not understandable to be many readers, it may be better to change that term to something like "first-term legislators" or "first-term members of the Punjab Legislative Assembly". In fact, I'd suggest that "members of the legislative assembly" be added to the first mention of MLA in the article since it's not immediately clear what the abbreviation means, especially to non-Indian readers.
I dont have 5 DYKs, the rule is clear. Greenhorn is an interesting and common word that raises curiosity. It is in headline of Express. I will expand MLA as you suggested. Venkat TL (talk) 12:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Symbol question.svg Personally I know what "greenhorn" means but I have reservations if most readers do. We usually don't like using technical or niche terms on DYK wherever possible in favor of using easier-to-understand language. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:44, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg article has been updated. Need reviwer. Venkat TL (talk) 15:29, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Judiciary of Poland

  • ... that in Poland a mean court judge processed almost four cases per day? Source: 14.38 million estimate given by GUS; 10,000 judge estimate can be seen in table, divide this per 365 per WP:CALC, which is in the text
    • ALT1: ... that in Poland the courts processed 14.38 million cases in 2020 while having fewer than 10,000 judges? Source: Same as above, just not divided
    • ALT2: ... that the ECHR found three of five chambers of the Supreme Court, Poland's top court, not to be properly constituted within the meaning of Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights? Source: See "Partisan control of the National Council of the Judiciary" part, last para
    • ALT3: ... that the Constitutional Tribunal, Poland's top court, ruled it was not a court? Source: Notes from Poland
    • ALT4: ... that the State Tribunal, the Polish court tasked with trial of the highest politicians, only convened three times in the past 40 years? Source: In text
    • Reviewed: User:Szmenderowiecki/Sort of recognised contributions
    • Comment: Please refer to the (exhaustive AFAIK) list of all of my DYK reviews and submissions for the purposes of QPQ. Feel free to add an entry to the list once the nomination is processed and (hopefully) accepted. 4 cases per day may be substituted by 1,500 per year, as verified here. ALT3 could actually go to April 1 if possible, though the problem might be that the ruling (unfortunately) exists and that the argument relies on the technicality of the Polish Constitution described in the lead (about tribunals in general).

5x expanded by Szmenderowiecki (talk). Self-nominated at 00:53, 22 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Red XN - You need to link the specific review that you're claiming credit for
Overall: Symbol question.svg I don't think that ALT0 checks out because you don't have figures for the "average (median?) court judge", but are just dividing the cases by the number of judges. I don't consider ALT4 to be interesting because due to the small number of top politicians, it doesn't make sense for the court to convene a lot. For ALT2, the precise findings were that these courts were not "established by law", mainly because of irregular appointments. See here for an explanation of the exact provision and how it's applied by the ECHR. See below for another version. For ALT3, I think it could be reworded but is confusing as it stands (it would be clearer with "itself", but still confusing). (t · c) buidhe 06:12, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As for ALT0/ALT1, the quote being verified is translated from Polish as: "Polish judges (there are about 10,000 of them) process approx. 15 million cases, which means that an average [mean, not median] judge processes about 1,500 cases per year," which was verified using 2018 data. I've used 2020 data and the same methodology. It was fact-checked as true back in 2020. Yes, it is a number of cases divided by judges (with all the problems that appear with measuring mean not median values, but this does not invalidate the hook as such, as I properly state that I calculate an average. I do have that data.
I don't see what's confusing about ALT3. Granted, it is apparently contradictory, but that's the point of DYKs (be short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article – as long as they don't misstate the article content). Additionally, I don't actually see how I can reword it using "itself". Will you propose the rewording for this one, considering the article to which this is sourced?
ALT2a is OK, but I'd consider other options first.
ALT4 is at the low end of my priorities, so I'll drop this one to expedite the process.
Re QPQ requirement, that's not my reading of the QPQ rules. It merely says that I must review one other nomination (unrelated to you)‍ and provide proof of that for examination. The full registry is available there, with my submissions reviewed (6) and my reviews (18). How is that not sufficient? Besides, I don't want to accidentally duplicate the QPQ claims, which AFAIK are not logged anywhere (unlike credits for reviews). If the newest review must be claimed for QPQ and I'm misreading the policy (not you), take my Template:Did you know nominations/Vitamin A review. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 13:12, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I do not know about Polish, but in English many people are going to see "average" and think it means "median" in this context. It would be clearer to talk about the mean number of cases handled per judge. Not to mention, each day is unclear whether we're talking about all days or working days...
Looking at ALT3 and not knowing the details of this case, I wouldn't know "what is it". Admittedly, right now I can't think of a good rewrite.
The reason most DYK participants link which DYK hook they are counting for QPQ is because otherwise it's impossible to tell if they claim the same review twice (I've done this by accident). (t · c) buidhe 21:05, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
OK, got it. The relevant ruling (summary) for ALT3 is here. In Polish (see full case here). The funny thing is, the English version says that the trial must happen in a tribunal established by law, while the Polish version talks of sąd ustanowiony ustawą. The ruling heavily relies on the technical distinction between what the Constitution calls a "court" and a "tribunal". The ruling basically says that the ECHR did not properly analyse the legal position of the Tribunal, and, since the Constitutional Tribunal is only a judicial organ but does not determine the outcome of cases like most courts do, it does not administer justice and therefore is not a tribunal/court within Article 6, which they argue only applies to the courts which administer justice. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 08:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 23[edit]

Kyiv National Academic Molodyy Theatre

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:42, 30 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

I'll be honest, the hook is kinda meh. I'm not really sure if the foundation date is necessary, and while I find the "young in mind" part to be cute, it really isn't a spectacular hook fact. Can something else be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is kind of an insider correction. Did you know that for as long as this theatre's article existed on Wikipedia (2010 or so) it was labelled a youth theatre, as if playing for young audiences? Probably a translation error. It is not, it was Young Theatre in the sense of progressive, advanced, experimental. Young in mind is a good wording for that, imho. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't see how any of that addresses my main concern that the hook as currently written isn't really interesting to a broad audience. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:51, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Grimes2: Sorry but I really don't think either hook appeals to a broad audience either. Both of them sound rather run-of-the-mill and vague. If I may give a suggestion, I think a hook based on this quote From 1985 to the present day, the theatre is based at a mansion on Prorizna Street,[3] which formerly served as an apartment building, an officers' club, the Young Theater of Les Kurbas, and the cinema "Komsomolets of Ukraine". has more promise than any hook about the international projects or the "young in mind" quote. To me at least, I thought it was interesting that a theatre building used to be a mansion and an apartment building. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 19:50, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2 ... that the Kyiv National Academic Molodyy Theatre, member of the European Theatre Convention, is based at a mansion, that former served as an officer's club, an apartment building and a cinema? Grimes2 (talk) 20:08, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Personally I'd just reword it as ALT2a ... that the mansion that houses the Molodyy Theatre previously served as an apartment building, an officer's club, and a cinema? I used the shorter name to make the hook more concise, but using the longer name would also be fine if hook length allows for it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 20:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec) Thank you for the offers. I am no friend of ALT2 and variant, - we have so little room, why say what their building was before, instead of what they are now?? - We don't have to appeal (say something quirky), just say something interesting which I understand as good to know, - not the same. If that direction, say that they use the same building as the legendary short-lived first theatre of the same name by the legendary Les Kurbas, - but again: I'd like to say what they are, not what others were before.
    What I came for was saying that I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Barrie R. Cassileth. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2b ... that the mansion that houses the Kyiv National Academic Molodyy Theatre previously served as an apartment building, an officers' club, the first theatre by Les Kurbas and a cinema? Sorry, Gerda! Grimes2 (talk) 21:28, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Kyiv/Ukraine should be mentioned, Les Kurbas was a prominent figure in Ukraine, "young in mind" sounds like a slogan by the theatre. Grimes2 (talk) 21:47, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think Ukraine must be mentioned.Whoever hasn't heard where Kyiv is will not need the article. I just said above that Kurbas was legendary, and mentioning him is fine, but really fail to see what a former use as officer's club adds to understanding the theatre. April Fool is past. Sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the illustrious history of the building is an interesting hook. Maybe replace "officers' club" by "Kyiv House of the Red Army" or "Red Army house". Grimes2 (talk) 22:06, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) I prefer Europe to officers:
Molodyy Theatre
Molodyy Theatre
ALT3: ... that the Molodyy Theatre (Young Theatre) in Kyiv, a member of the European Theatre Convention, uses the same mansion (pictured) as the first theatre of the name, founded by Les Kurbas? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT3. Grimes2 (talk) 22:38, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think ALT2b is still a better wording. I don't really think the mention of the Convention is necessary for hookiness purposes and the wording of ALT3 is still a bit clunky. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
European has a political meaning: The theatre is west-orientated. Grimes2 (talk) 03:31, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the main issue with ALT3 and its variants is that there isn't even an article for the Convention. DYK guidelines discourage red links or mentioning people or organizations without articles. Unless one is made (and perhaps expanded to meet DYK requirements) it's probably a better option to just drop the idea of including the Convention in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:34, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Kurbas first theatre is gone long ago, better: "as previously Kurbas's short-living 1917 theatre", Convention article needs to be written and can be translated from German wiki. Grimes2 (talk) 11:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Convention article will be written (or I would not have linked it). We don't need more details about the first theatre, - If absolutely needed, "1916" might do. Patience please. I have three articles to write today - vs. my normal one - so will take until tomorrow, or Grimes2 perhaps ...? I wish LouisAlain was here to help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3b is misleading, because Kurbas's theatre could still exist now, playing parallel in the same house. Grimes2 (talk) 12:03, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
please keep simple - quite unlikely under the same name - we don't have to say "it all" in hooks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
European Theatre Convention translation: member theatre part on my sandbox User:Grimes2/sandbox Grimes2 (talk) 13:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, so now we have an article on the convention. However, unless the convention article can be brought to DYK standards, I really don't think its mention is necessary for the hook. The main focus is that the building had prior use, the convention part distracts from that. As a possible compromise, if Gerda or Grimes2 is willing to bring the convention article to DYK standards, the convention mention could work as a second bolded link. In any case, I'm still not fond of either ALT3a or ALT3b since it seems to be reliant on knowledge of Kurbas. Some version of ALT2b is probably preferable since the hookiness isn't reliant on the mention of him. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:43, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(In reply to Grimes2's deleted comment): I meant to say that one option to allow the convention to be mentioned in the hook was to expand the convention's article to meet DYK requirements (if it isn't already) so that it can be added to the nomination as a second bolded link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I usually prefer to give each their own DYK. Haven't yet looked, but will today. No distraction from the theatre please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The former theatre isn't a focus on trivial "former uses" but a hint at a tradition, and the European aspect is absolutely wanted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Normandy massacres

Private Charles Doucette, who was one of the first victims of the Normandy massacres
Private Charles Doucette, who was one of the first victims of the Normandy massacres
  • ... that during the Battle of Normandy, one out of every seven Canadian soldiers killed June 6–11, 1944, were murdered after surrendering? Source: One out of every seven Canadian soldiers killed between June 6–11 were murdered after surrendering — a figure that rises to one in five if the range is reduced to June 7–11, when Canadian units started engaging with elements of the 12th SS Panzer Division.[1]}

Created by CplKlinger (talk). Self-nominated at 20:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ Margolian, Howard (1998). Conduct unbecoming : the story of the murder of Canadian prisoners of war in Normandy. Toronto [Ont.]: University of Toronto Press. p. 123. ISBN 978-1-4426-7321-2. OCLC 431557826.

E. F. Barrett Power Station

E. F. Barrett Power Station in 2021
E. F. Barrett Power Station in 2021
  • ... that there wasn't enough water in Oceanside to build more than half of the E. F. Barrett Power Station (pictured)?
    Source: [13], p. 13: "Originally, the E.F. Barrett site was planned to have four units. It was determined, however, that Barnum Channel provided insufficient cooling water for four generators and units 3 and 4 were instead developed at Port Jefferson." Barnum Channel forms the border of Oceanside, New York.

5x expanded by Antony-22 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:48, 25 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Malyuk

If there are issues, please let me know. 5x expanded by Ominae (talk). Self-nominated at 13:51, 23 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 24[edit]

Hitler teapot

Created by HenryTemplo (talk). Self-nominated at 19:33, 26 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Article is not long enough -- I'm also starting to wonder if WP:NOTNEWS applies here. Kingoflettuce (talk) 13:26, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The article is being [| considered for deletion] in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. We should wait for consensus before making a final decision. Thanks RV (talk) 08:39, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Symbol question.svg to expand on the above review, pending the AfD outcome, article is new but not long enough, QPQ has (not) been done (exempt), hook is verified and interesting. No evidence of copyvio Kingoflettuce (talk) 00:28, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Kingoflettuce, HenryTemplo is new to DYK, so please can you explain how you calculated the article's length and why it is too short. Using javascriptkit.com and excluding headers, I get 1548 characters as of 30 March, which is above the 1500 minimum. When submitted on 26 March it had 1485, which was too short.
    • HenryTemplo, as this is your first DYK nomination, you don't need to review another nomination as a quid pro quo (QPQ), but it is useful to mention that you are exempt to help the reviewer. TSventon (talk) 12:42, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, if I'm not mistaken quotations don't count towards the 1.5k Kingoflettuce (talk) 13:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • Kingoflettuce, that makes sense, but the explanation was helpful, since I am a novice as a DYK reviewer. I now make the count 1448. TSventon (talk) 15:09, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "JC Penney's 'Hitler' tea kettle sells out but finds a new home on eBay". the Guardian. 2013-05-29. Retrieved 2022-03-24.

Year of Luigi

Created by Panini! (talk). Self-nominated at 01:56, 24 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

None of these work as AFD hooks IMO (and I have no idea what "parkour" is a reference to). It's also very obvious that the hooks are about the super Mario brothers games, which practically everybody on the planet must be familiar with. So without a better angle, I think this one would have to be a scratching for AFD. Gatoclass (talk) 02:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gatoclass, my original hooks included clarification of the exact things you listed, but I cut them down for the sake of a punchy tone. Just to give this a fighting chance, is your "practically everybody on the planet must be familiar with" statement sarcasm? If not, I can rewrite them to appeal to a broader audience. Panini! • 🥪 02:43, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(For reference, it's in the context of actual parkour, which is the act of getting from point A to point B as fast as possible, as Wikipedia describes it.) Panini! • 🥪 02:44, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) No I wasn't being sarcastic - I think everybody who owns a computer has probably heard of Super Mario Bros. And I don't know what you mean by "appeal to a broader audience". There are two issues I raised with the hooks, firstly that "parkour" is mystifying, secondly that the hooks are not AFD-ish. Neither relates to "appeal to a broader audience" that I can discern. Gatoclass (talk) 02:51, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Panini!, while I do know of parkour, I agree with Gatoclass that none of these hooks are appropriate for AFD. If recast to qualify some of the wording (rather than use Wikipedia's voice for mockumentary "facts"), some of these might be suitable as hooks for the quirky slot of a regular set. ALT3 might work in the past tense, but I don't think it's sufficiently interesting without additional facts: anyone can ride the L in Chicago. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:05, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you for the explanation of "parkour", I guess there might be an AFD angle in there somewhere then, but the first thing you would need to do is actually provide an explanation or at least a link to parkour in the article itself - I couldn't see one when I looked. Gatoclass (talk) 02:55, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Alright, Gatoclass, I've made another alt to better describe my intentions. For reference, the hook comes from this portion of the article: "Also in August, Nintendo released a mockumentary titled Finding Luigi - Legend of Parkour; the video opens with various interviews with parkour athletes, who praised Luigi's popularity and skill in the parkour industry before mysteriously vanishing. In an attempt to interview him, two men go on a quest to find his current whereabouts. The mockumentary was made to justify why Luigi could jump higher than Mario in New Super Luigi U and Super Mario 3D World." Panini! • 🥪 03:17, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Update, I also rewrote Alt1 to make some more sense. Panini! • 🥪 04:02, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Panini!:, I was going to do a review after what seemed like a pile-on. However they have a point. Not "everyone" blamed Luigi (the first ref only mentions the loss and not Luigi) and if you read the wiki article on Luigi then none of these points are mentioned. I think you need to realise that DYK is in the real universe. Even on AFDay the hooks are all true. If we have a hook involving a fictional person then it must be clear ... as in the case of a real person disappearing then its intriguing but a fictional person well ... less so. (Oh and I knew immediately what Parkour was). Victuallers (talk) 12:27, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for reviewing, Victuallers. If I'm not misinterpreting everyone's comments, is it still plausible that this could pass for an AFD DYK under the correct scrutiny? It appears that most of the opposing comments here state that the hooks pass off fiction as fact and/or aren't adequately relaying what the article says. If that's the case, I could work around the caveats, possibly; the "joke" I was going for here was (because a lot of people know about the Bros.) to suddenly introduce a fictional character and pair it with an absurd fact. If I were to specify what was real and what wasn't, they would look like this:
It removes the punchiness that I was trying to strive for, but the rules are rules. If I've misinterpreted your statement and it was actually a decline, there are a couple of instances of serious hooks I can pull instead for a non-AFD occasion. Also, per your concern of ALT1, it's because I forgot the source that sources the other half of the statement; I added it in Alt5. Panini! • 🥪 12:46, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am failing to understand, one of your refs says "Well done Luigi, you did well. Share your favourite memories of his year below". How does that fit with Alt7? SuperMario wiki (poor source) doesnt mention it and Wiki' Nintendo article (v.poor source) says about 2015 "The financial losses caused by the Wii U, along with Sony's intention to ... motivated Nintendo to rethink its strategy concerning the production and distribution of its properties". The article Luigi doesnt mention it either. Your article mentions a meme (ie a fiction) that is mentioned (in passing) in your ref which then contradicts the idea saying "he [Luigi] led the rescue mission, ensuring damage control and smiling gaming faces with his humorous terror, clumsy mannerisms and awesome platforming athleticism. He bailed Mario out in this Year of Luigi, and we'd better not forget it." ... so alt7 says "people blamed the fictional character Luigi"... umm, ? ? I'm failing to understand. Victuallers (talk) 16:14, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It appears that I've once again failed to justify the "factual" aspect, and that's on me. Per your interpretation (and my misinterpretation, per se), I've struck the previous hooks. However, there's facts from this article that can be used for serious hooks instead; I looked around for the unordinary ones to use instead. The 7 day creation criteria also still applies. Victuallers, is there a separate process I need to take to give these serious hooks, or can I simply list them here and remove this from the AFD page? Panini! • 🥪 16:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It was my understanding that approved hooks were moved to the AFD area. I think that given our history you should find another reviewer. The seven day rule doesnt apply once you are in the queue however you do need to make sure that you demonstrate that you are understanding. Look back at previous years of AFD and see how they are all factually correct. Victuallers (talk) 16:52, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New serious hooks, no longer an AFD's nomination. A second reviewer is requested:

  • ALT0a: ... that Canadian actor Danny Wells, who portrayed Luigi in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!, died amidst the character's 30th anniversary celebration? duringSource: [25][26]
  • ALT1a: ... that during the Year of Luigi, Nintendo released a mockumentary depicting Luigi as a "legend of parkour"? Source: [27] [28]
  • ALT2a: ... that to celebrate the Year of Luigi, the Chicago "L" train was redesigned with a green color scheme and character artwork, with a costumed character of Luigi riding upon it? Source: [29][30] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panini! (talk • contribs) 20:14, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I can't review them all, but there are issues with ALT2a and some related material in the article: there was a single train that was modified to be the Luigi train out of the very many trains that run on the Brown Line (sources 7 and 9 make it clear that it was a Brown Line train, though done up in green inside and out for the promotion; one of the three sources say that the Brown Line became the "Luigi Line" for the day), not a train that runs on the Green Line as the article says, though the two elevated lines, along with several others, both stop at Clark/Lake downtown where kiosks offered up a new game featuring Luigi. So ALT2a might fly with "a" (rather than "the") L train, but the article needs to be revised to better reflect the sources, and really shouldn't feature a Green Line image. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh, pardon me, BlueMoonset, I've been seeing green the whole week I was writing this. I added the specifics of the train line while I was in a rush. "Brown line" and "green" may have merged in this rush to add an image. I've fixed the article to match this discrepancy. Panini! • 🥪 00:09, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 25[edit]

Southern corroboree frog

southern corroboree frog
southern corroboree frog

Created by Casliber (talk). Self-nominated at 04:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Earwig and I like this article. The simple hook is reffed and interesting and the frog pictured is interesting to look at. The article is long enough and reffed against quality sources. Its neutral and adaquate and this is good stuff for DYK. Well done. Can you check the sourcing on the image - it isn't clear where the original image came from. Victuallers (talk) 19:46, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unfriendly Countries List

Created by Haha169 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:21, 27 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Henry Alcazar

  • ... that after the 1903 Water Riots in which the seat of government was burned down, Henry Alcazar, a member of the Legislative Council of Trinidad and Tobago successfully defended all the men accused of inciting a riot? Source: "After the riots, Alcazar served as legal counsel to the men who were put on trial for inciting the riots (they were all acquitted)" Brereton, Bridget (2016). "Alcazar, Henry A.". In Knight, Franklin W.; Gates, Henry Louis, Jr. (eds.). Dictionary of Caribbean and Afro–Latin American Biography.

Moved to mainspace by Guettarda (talk). Self-nominated at 05:45, 26 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Geko (rapper)

Moved to mainspace by Muhandes (talk). Self-nominated at 12:55, 25 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

AK-47 (cannabis)

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 25 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Promotional nonsense. Medical claims MUST be verified through sources compliant with WP:MEDRS, and a random weed mag's opinion about 'miracles' isn't 'DYK' it is vacuous puffery. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:06, 25 March 2022 (UTC
  • Removed alt0 as it is no longer in the article. Maybe Andy can learn that DYK noms aren't discussions; you wouldn't drop that comment in an FACR, would you. Kingsif (talk) 13:11, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Suggested ALT2 using source https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/028654v1: "a high THCA expressing cultivar AK-47", copy number in Table 1 same source. Using "THC" in the hook rather than THCA might be a slightly incorrect but more readable/familiar form, I'd be fine with either. ☆ Bri (talk)
  • Suggested a funny Alt3; in article [31]. Kingsif (talk) 16:59, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I actually prefer ALT3 to my proposed ALT2. Not being a botanist/genetecist, am not 100% sure about my reading of the paper. Plus it was impeached as "only" pre-publication, if that's a reason to go to another ALT. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:34, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • It is strange, if it was 10 years old and pre-pub, fair, it may have issues, but not a 2021 paper. Oddly, I read a lot of the positive reviews of WP COVID coverage, and these top medical folk celebrated how many research papers were used as refs, pretty much all pre-pub because of newness. It shouldn't be discounted unless a more recent paper disagrees, and that is the impression I got the last time I read MEDRS. Kingsif (talk) 19:39, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • It's a 2015 paper, not one from last year... Fram (talk) 19:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 is a hook that conveys no information besides promoting the subject, and should not be used. (t · c) buidhe 19:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • That was not the intention, and I do not think it would read that way: when people see the term "AK-47", they do not think of something that could be "genetic" - it is intriguing. I don't mind it being struck, though, just need to clarify that there really is no nonsense promotion. Kingsif (talk) 11:41, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kingsif: Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutral, and plagiarism-free; bioRxiv is a red flag, but I'll let it slide given that the self-published article is written by subject-matter experts and the paper has been cited multiple times. I am concerned about the use of Leafly, though, given its openness to paid content and its nature as a shop—same goes for weedmaps, partially, and Olivastu doesn't look like a fantastic source either. That said, ALT3 is cited and fantastic, and a QPQ has been done, so we'll just have to clear up the sourcing and we'll be good to go. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 20:39, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've added an ALT4 I think might work, as well. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 20:40, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm, gonna shoot the breeze with this issue: isn't there a possibility that ALT3 can be read as support for shooting russians? given that there's a war going on... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 20:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sociedad Cosmopolita de Resistencia y Colocación de Obreros Panaderos

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 25 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Green tickY

QPQ: Red XN - TBD
Overall: Symbol question.svg I think ALT2 is best because many readers don't speak Spanish. (t · c) buidhe 05:31, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the article supports ALT0a. It says that the union renamed some pastries, not that people eat these pastries because of the union. ALT1a would also need a tweak because the article says they only changed the names of "many" pastries, not all of them. (t · c) buidhe 06:40, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, one last try, and please feel free to just approve ALT2 if this doesn't work:
Ping buidhe ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 17:16, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 26[edit]

Phillips O'Brien

  • ... that Phillips O'Brien revised World War Two? Source: Imlay, Talbot C. (1 December 2016). "Phillips Payson O'Brien, How the War Was Won: Air-Sea Power and Allied Victory in World War II". The Journal of Modern History. 88 (4): 914–915.

Created by Philafrenzy (talk), Whispyhistory (talk), and Edwardx (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 19:47, 1 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Eric Sbraccia

Created by Bigkhrisdogg (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 18:20, 28 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Cyrus Prudhomme David

  • ... that the Colonial Office refused to appoint Cyrus Prudhomme David to the magistracy, considering it wrong "as a matter of policy" to appoint a second Black man to a legal post in Trinidad and Tobago? Source: "A. C. Harris, a principal clerk in the Colonial Office argued that it would wrong 'as a matter of principle' to give another legal appoint to a 'black man'" - Samaroo, Brinsely (1971). "Cyrus Prudhomme David - a case study in the emergence of the black man in Trinidad politics". Journal of Caribbean History. 3: 73–89
    • ALT1: ... that in 1902 Cyrus Prudhomme David argued that Britain's use of the colonies to produce "tropical produce and taxpayers" meant that "demonstrations of loyalty on our part remain a hollow mockery"? Source: "So long as the stewards of the Crown persist in regarding these undeveloped estates of the Crown as so many fields for the raising of tropical produce and taxpayers, thus long will all demonstrations of loyalty on our part remain a hollow mockery" - C.P. David quoted in Samaroo, Brinsely (1971). "Cyrus Prudhomme David - a case study in the emergence of the black man in Trinidad politics". Journal of Caribbean History. 3: 73–89
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leonel Gómez Vides

Created by Guettarda (talk). Self-nominated at 03:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Kuala Langat North Forest Reserve

Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self-nominated at 15:39, 26 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Harold DeMarsh

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:36, 26 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: I read the hook and thought DeMarsh was the first NCAA champion in any sport- left an ALT0a to clarify. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 20:01, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-War Committee of Russia

  • ... that following the Russian invasion of Ukraine, a diverse group of exiled Russian public figures formed the Anti-War Committee of Russia to unite different political movements to oppose the war?
Source: “Some of Russia’s leading opposition figures have launched an anti-war committee to protest Russia’s invasion of Ukraine from exile.”

“ In videos shared on social media Wednesday, eight of the country’s leading opposition voices — including former oil baron Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Alexei Navalny ally Lyubov Sobol and former chess grandmaster Garry Kasparov — called on Russians to resist Kremlin propaganda and push back against the war on Ukraine. ”

“ “We all represent different political movements. But we have merged into one anti-war committee, because we believe that our country does not need this war,” said Khodorkovsky.

The initiative marks a rare moment of unity in Russia’s opposition, which is known for bitter division and infighting. ”

The Moscow Times

Created by Thriley (talk) and N8wilson (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 02:28, 26 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Handstand (song)

Created by Infsai (talk). Self-nominated at 01:11, 26 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 27[edit]

Khwarazmian army between 1231 and 1246

Khwarazmian cavalry
Khwarazmian cavalry

Created by Srnec (talk). Self-nominated at 23:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Corp Naomh

The Corp Naomh
The Corp Naomh
  • ... that the 15th century figures on the Irish reliquary known as the Corp Naomh (pictured) are based in part on a design in the 9th century Book of Kells? Source: Overbey, Karen. Sacral Geographies: Saints, Shrines and Territory in Medieval Ireland. Turnhout: Brepols, 2012. p. 141. ISBN 978-2-503-52767-3

Created by Ceoil (talk). Self-nominated at 20:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Dead cotton

Created by RAJIVVASUDEV (talk). Self-nominated at 09:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Whistleblower Aid

Source: "The Facebook whistleblower whose disclosures have shaken the world’s largest social network has drawn behind-the-scenes help from a big player in the online world: Pierre Omidyar, the billionaire tech critic who founded eBay."

"Omidyar’s financial support, which was previously unreported, offers one of the most striking examples yet of how Frances Haugen’s disclosures have generated enthusiasm among critics of U.S. tech giants — offering a potentially crucial boost as she takes on one of the world’s most powerful companies. This gives her an edge that many corporate whistleblowers lack as she warns lawmakers, regulators and media organizations on both sides of the Atlantic that Facebook is endangering society by putting “profits before people.”"

"Omidyar’s global philanthropic organization Luminate is handling Haugen’s press and government relations in Europe, and his foundation last year gave $150,000 to Whistleblower Aid, the nonprofit organization that is providing Haugen’s legal representation and advice."

Politico

Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk) and Jaredscribe (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 04:16, 31 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Douglas Indian Village

Created by Name Omitted (talk). Nominated by Eviolite (talk) at 15:56, 27 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: The article, while certainly substantial enough, is entirely about the circumstances and events leading to the village's destruction, not an accessible overview of the village itself. Likewise, it's driven by a pair of news sources from 2015–2016 revisiting that event, rather than sourcing which provides evidence of the enduring notability of the titular topic as a whole. As such, the article's creation smacks of WP:RGW. Also, while the village is within Juneau corporate limits today, that wasn't the case when the village existed. Douglas was a separately-incorporated community from 1902 to 1970. This is described somewhat at the bottom of the article but not consistently described throughout. The hook's reference to "burned down and condemned" is problematic, considering the article text makes it clear that the condemnation preceding the burning. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 16:37, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @RadioKAOS: Thanks for pointing that out, it's a valid point. I've tried to find some information but didn't come up with much; maybe Name Omitted (as the creator of the article) knows some sources. I'm a bit confused about the Douglas/Juneau stuff though; I thought it was clear enough given that the article consistently talks about the "City of Douglas", but I added another mention at the end to try and help that. eviolite (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Fixed the hook issue (sorry, didn't see that you'd edited the comment when I was typing mine.) I haven't been able to find good book sources but I'll take another look in the evening; there might also be contemporary newspaper sources. eviolite (talk) 17:22, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, I've searched a bit and can't find anything. There aren't any other books or journals with significant information, and newspapers from collections like Gale and Newspapers.com have a brief mention at maximum; nothing usable, unfortunately. eviolite (talk) 01:16, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    There are more sources available if you open the scope of the research to include the raising of the Yanyeidì Gooch kootéeyaa pole raised in Memorium to the village in the upland park created when the harbor was dredged. Most of those sources don't add a lot to the existing section of the article, although I do anticipate a feature section about modern healing/reconciliation that may include them.
    RadioKAOS, with respect to WP:RGW, this is an ongoing concern and topic of conversation. A federally recognized tribal government essentially ceased to be for 20 years before being essentially re-formed in the '90s. It's a fascinating story, and the events in this article are an important part of that story. This is important local history, and while the article needs a lot of fleshing out it is not righting past wrongs.
    Eviolite, I am thrilled that you think this article is worthy of a DYK, thank you. I respectfully don't think it is yet, for many of the reasons RadioKAOS has brought up. I hope that more information can be found to flesh this out into a complete article, and if it is I do think it would be worthy of a DYK. Doing so would take some deep scholarship into primary sources (such as BIA records) that I don't have access to at this point. Hopefully, in the wonderful collaborative community that is Wikipedia, there are others who have those sources. Name Omitted (talk) 02:25, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Name Omitted: Thanks for the reply and work. DYK articles don't necessarily need to be "complete" as long as they are long enough and within policy, though I understand RadioKAOS's concerns may relate to NPOV. If you want me to withdraw the nomination, I'd be happy to do so, though keep in mind that to submit it again you'd need to expand it 5x or bring it to GA-level. Regards, eviolite (talk) 11:29, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Eviolite, Let's see if we can add a section on the "Time for Healing" project and the totem poles that were erected for that project within the DYK timeframe. That will add current relevance to this article. That will provide a more complete story.

The Ice Age Adventures of Buck Wild

Improved to Good Article status by Kaleeb18 (talk), ZX2006XZ (talk), SlySabre (talk), and Some Dude From North Carolina (talk). Nominated by Kaleeb18 (talk) at 12:59, 27 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: oh, my little brother saw this yesterday :) shattering any hope that Ice Age wouldn't ruin the beauty of the first movie with another soulless sequel... nevermind. Anyways, i've proposed a few ALTs up above, to add some pizzazz. cheers! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 20:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes the movie was absolutely horrendous and thank you for adding more alts. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 23:19, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 28[edit]

Mariam Soulakiotis

Mariam Soulakiotis at a trial in 1951
Mariam Soulakiotis at a trial in 1951

Created by Psiĥedelisto (talk) and Ερευνητής Αλήθειας (talk). Nominated by Psiĥedelisto (talk) at 13:47, 2 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Article is recently expanded. QPQ done. Have looked at it and its Greek version, and made a few copyedits, simplifications, and corrections in both. The article is in good shape, looks thorough, and well referenced. Some issues remain, however, which must be addressed before this is approved. First of all, in sourcing, the Απολλώνια Ελληνική Κίνηση reference is not a WP:RS, it is a blog by neo-paganists and hence obviously polemical against the Christian church. Second, the article names Mariam as the abbess-founder of the monastery in the list of the original nuns, but the preceding and next sections say that the monastery's abbot was Matthew, and that she formally became abbess only in 1950. Constantine ✍ 16:24, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cplakidas: I only use the source for a Greek name, so I didn't think it was an issue, but can replace it if needed. Your point about her rank at the foundation is well taken—I've removed the word "abbess" from the section. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 21:10, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cplakidas: After realizing that Kouletaki also mentions Margheti in Greek, I was able to remove the offening source. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 04:12, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Symbol confirmed.svg Then this is good to go. Constantine ✍ 17:42, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ethel Ogden

Ethel Ogden
Ethel Ogden

Created by Linkstitch (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 21:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Hans Robertson

Gret Palucca dancing, 1920s
Gret Palucca dancing, 1920s

Moved to mainspace by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:05, 30 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Paul Pollei

Created by Cjstirlbyu (talk). Self-nominated at 17:53, 29 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Copyright violations are [detected]. @Cjstirlbyu Kindly see if you can copy edit. Thanks RV (talk) 03:27, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RV, thanks for the review! Given that the material that is marked as "plagiarized" from other sources mainly consists of names of organizations, books, and institutions, I would argue that their mention in the article is not plagiarism. I have removed any other similar language that does not fit into that category. Let me know if I can address anything else! Cjstirlbyu (talk) 20:30, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hydroelectricity in Turkey

Improved to Good Article status by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:34, 28 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Presumably the fish are threatened by dams, not by the use of hydroelectricity... (t · c) buidhe 05:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Unlike Wikipedia the cite uses a hyphen so search for "Kiss-lip himri". Page 73 of the cite says "hydropower hazard high". But as the hook says not enough is known - fish could be just fine I guess - I hope someone will read it and give some money to scientists to find out. Whether dams would have been built just for irrigation if there was no possibility of hydropower I don't know - certainly proponents say it is the hydropower which has repaid cost. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Francis Orray Ticknor

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 16:19, 28 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Edith Prentiss

  • ... that in 2004, New York City disability rights activist Edith Prentiss described catching a wheelchair accessible taxi cab as “like a unicorn” since there were only three in the entire city? Source: ”There are now only three cabs, all minivans with wheelchair ramps, and people like Ms. Prentiss have one chance in 4,162 of hailing a cab able to accommodate them. Ms. Prentiss, who lives in Washington Heights, said that the auction improved the outlook for disabled New Yorkers, but that there would still be too few accessible cabs. "They're like unicorns," she said. "You have to be pure to catch one."”The New York Times

Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk), Persicifolia (talk), and Innisfree987 (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 05:07, 28 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • The hook does not succeed in being hooky, surprising, or interesting; as it's not news that accessibility is really bad or that 1/1000 is rare. Part of the problem about this hook is it's not really about the subject but about the number of accessible cabs in NYC. (t · c) buidhe 06:49, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Restoring struck hook. Must be me but I found the hook interesting and it appears that the New York transport systems thanked Edith for her inspiration to tackle the problem. I offer the following alt. Victuallers (talk) 09:28, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Alt1 ... that New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority thanked Edith Prentiss (aka "Hell on Wheels") for inspiring their accessibility improvements (plaque pictured)?
      • I fixed the misspelling of "accessibility". Not a full review, but if ALT1 is used the MTA's name should be spelled out completely; its name is not "New York Transport Authority". However, and this is a bigger consideration, Prentiss was not the sole reason for the MTA making the accessibility improvements. In fact, the MTA was already being forced to do so under city and state laws. In any case, I was pretty interested in the fact that she objected to the title of a documentary for being "too mild". Epicgenius (talk) 14:49, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • Thanks for the partial review @Epicgenius:. I have included the full title of "Metropolitan Transportation Authority" though I think few will recognise the name. Your bigger consideration that "Prentiss was not the sole reason for the MTA making the accessibility improvements" is surely your interpretation as the hook doesnt say that - it says she "inspired" it - and that is exactly what the MTA say on their plaque. I think most people know that there is a legal accessability requirement (which is why the MTA set targets to 50% comply with them). The activists "inspire" them to try harder. If you would like to see another hook then by all means have a go. Victuallers (talk) 17:47, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
          • I don’t like that we are attributing something to her that isn’t demonstrably the result of her actions. The plaque is on the elevator is pretty vague. Thriley (talk) 18:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
            • That's OK good luck with your nomination I struck my hook and the vague pic but its up to you as to whether to re-strike your hook. Victuallers (talk) 19:27, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you! ALT3 reads well. Thriley (talk) 20:42, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on March 29[edit]

Serhiy Kot

  • ... that Serhiy Kot was editor for Ukrainian Question, a book collection of articles by British journalist Lancelot Lawton about the status of Ukraine in the 1930s? Source: [36]
    • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:10, 1 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I appreciate the effort with these Ukraine hooks but I really don't think this particular hook appeals to a broad audience. It doesn't help that we don't even have an article about Lawton, and I really don't see how him being an editor for a book makes for an interesting hook. I think a more promising option would be a hook based on this particular fact: In 2020, Kot was instrumental in seeking restitution of a painting by Lucas Cranach, a diptych of Adam and Eve unlawfully taken to Saint Petersburg and now at the Norton Simon Museum in Pasadena, to Ukraine. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:58, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    We can help to an article about Lawton. But - with or without - the fact that the Ukrainian Question was already regarded as a key question for the future of Europe in the 1930s seems of higher interest than the wanted restitution of a single artwork which is not likely to happen. Sharper wording of the hook welcome, - I couldn't get in all into 200 chars. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:28, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Mordecai Strelisker. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The connection isn't going to be that clear to a reader even with the Russo-Ukranian War currently ongoing. It's likely to get over their heads. The taking to Saint Petersburg painting thing would probably catch attention more easily, and it's even still topical since it's still related to Russia-Ukraine. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:22, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I could not word the incident correctly in 200 character. Could you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 ... that historian Serhiy Kot was instrumental in seeking the return of a Lucas Cranach painting, which had been unlawfully taken to Saint Petersburg, back to Ukraine?
How does this sound? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for trying, but I'm afraid it's too simplified for my taste. A reader will think it's in Saint Petersburg now (vs California where it got by a dubious sale). It misses dates for when instrumental, when to Saint Petersburg. Without any date, this could have happened 100 years ago. "Ukraine" comes very late in the hook. Today, no valuable piece of art of art would be returned to Ukraine, regardless of laws and justice. It would be safer where it is, sadly. - These were some considerations why I gave up wording a hook around that. - That Lawton, however, spoke to the UK House of Commons about the topic, - will be in article-to-be, - just giving weight to his point of view in the 1930s, - about the time when Hitler invaded Poland. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Would this wording work better then?
  • ALT1a ... that historian Serhiy Kot was instrumental in seeking the return of a Lucas Cranach painting, which had been unlawfully taken to Saint Petersburg, Russia in 1929, back to Ukraine?
The 1929 date isn't explicitly mentioned in the article yet, but it is mentioned in the DW source. I also don't see how Ukraine being mentioned so late in the hook is an issue, since it's meant to be the "punchline" or "hook" of the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Look, the article had 21k+ views just by his name, - not by any hook. I had hoped we could say something about the Ukrainian Question in the 1930s, so frightening similar to what we have now. I give up, unwatching, do what want. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Giulia Cassini Rizzotto

Giulia Cassini Rizzotto
Giulia Cassini Rizzotto

Created by Jamerrell (talk), Lajmmoore (talk), Tagishsimon (talk), and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 09:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis

Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis
Church of All Saints, Houghton Regis

5x expanded by 7&6=thirteen (talk), KJP1 (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:39, 29 March 2022 (UTC) [reply]

Neither Settler nor Native

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 06:45, 29 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 30[edit]

Southern Magazine, Little magazine

Front cover of Southern Magazine, September 1872
Front cover of Southern Magazine, September 1872

Created by Drmies (talk) and Uncle G (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 21:41, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Saebyeolbe

Created by Pbrks (talk). Self-nominated at 01:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Chatterbox (restaurant)

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 13:25, 30 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

KTNW

5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:27, 30 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Zippyshare

Also please note that the link in the hook to file-sharing website is intentional and doesn't need to be bypassed, as it could plausibly be turned into its own article, and currently targets a particular section of another article. Created by Elli (talk). Self-nominated at 05:24, 30 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • If it's outlasted these other sites, by definition they are now defunct. Daniel Case (talk) 02:54, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Daniel Case: yeah, I knew the wording was a bit redundant but I wasn't sure of a better way to phrase it? Not the best at writing hooks. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:10, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sanrūmu Nite

    • Reviewed: Mary Renault
    • Comment: Adding User:KuroMina as a co-nominator as much of the article is written from sources they found. The co-nomination is not an expectation/obligation to participate in this DYK, though they are certainly welcome to do so.

Created by Morgan695 (talk) and KuroMina (talk). Nominated by Morgan695 (talk) at 01:13, 30 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 31[edit]

John Henry Bell

  • ... that due to the work of John Henry Bell a set of guidelines were introduced to protect woolsorters from anthrax? Source: [1]
    • Comment: I think I’m exempt from QPQ, less than 5 DYK credits

Created by HenryTemplo (talk). Self-nominated at 10:49, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ Fee, Elizabeth; Brown, Thedore M. (May 2002). "John Henry Bell". American Journal of Public Health. 92 (5): 756–757. doi:10.2105/ajph.92.5.756. ISSN 0090-0036.

The Devil Never Sleeps

Created by Evrik (talk) and Steve Quinn (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 21:39, 31 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Dun dun duuun!

The Walter variation.

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 13:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • I would argue the requirement for a trailing ? should be relaxed in this example. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:33, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Since the title of the article is "Dun dun duuun!", perhaps the question mark could be replaced with an interrobang (‽).  MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM  20:54, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Added free version of the sound. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 1[edit]

Khalid ibn Barmak

Improved to Good Article status by Cplakidas (talk). Self-nominated at 14:36, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Length Newness Cited hook Interest Sources Neutrality Plagiarism/paraphrase
✔ ✔ ✔ ✔ ✔
  • First hook is interesting to me. ALT1, not so much.
  • There's currently an error on the Abbas 1988 ref. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:12, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • QPQ has been done. Re NPOV, the article lead has "repeatedly distinguished himself for his fairness" (bold added by me for emphasis here) but the article only seem to mention his fairness in respect of edistributing the land tax (kharaj) of Khurasan; there's a later mention of "governing with wisdom and generosity" but that doesn't seem to me quite the same as fairness. Thanks for your work on the article, Cplakidas; let me know when you've fixed the Abbas ref and about my NPOV question. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Monthly Halloween

  • ... that Monthly Halloween was the first manga magazine to publish horror for girls? Source: Asahi Sonorama: L'éditeur de l'horreur
    • ALT1: ... that the manga magazine Monthly Halloween was founded to capitalize on a growing interest in horror films among Japanese teen girls in the 1980s? Source: Asahi Sonorama: L'éditeur de l'horreur
    • ALT2: ... that the first issue of the manga magazine Monthly Halloween was published on Friday, December 13, 1985, as a reference to the Friday the 13th franchise? Source: Asahi Sonorama: L'éditeur de l'horreur
    • Reviewed: RKO Keith's Theater (Flushing, Queens)

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:13, 1 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]

Earl K. Fernandes

Created by Maximilian775 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:24, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

List of awards and nominations received by Judy Ann Santos

5x expanded by Pseud 14 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Attack on Delhi Chief Minister's house

Created by Venkat TL (talk). Self-nominated at 13:18, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The article does not [comply] with the copyright policy. Secondly, not news also applies here. Thanks RV (talk) 13:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • The link above is simply highlighting a few quotes. Quotes are not copyright violation. Article passes WP:NEVENT as it was a major political incident. Please point specific issues if any on the article talk page. Venkat TL (talk) 13:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Kindly see What about quotes?. You can copy edit. And let the other reviewer review it. Thanks RV (talk) 13:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg None of the quote is copyrighted. These are statements in public domain and used as quotes with attribution. I have copy edited.Venkat TL (talk) 13:53, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Venkat TL: I will take a look at this nomination soon. Right now, it certainly seems new enough and long enough, and it doesn't seem to explicitly violate WP:NOTNEWS.
    However, I will note that you currently have four DYK credits. WP:DYKRULES says: "If, at the time a nomination is promoted to the main page, its nominator has fewer than five DYK credits (whether or not self-nominated) then the nominator is exempt from QPQ." You have two other nominations in progress here and here. This means that if any of these nominations passes, you will no longer be exempt from QPQ, as you will have had five DYK credits.
    As regards the copyright policy, it may also be possible to trim the quotations more. The article doesn't contain a copyright violation per se, as the quotes are properly attributed. However, the non-free content guideline does advise against excessive quotations. In general, it is best to describe details in your own words wherever possible, using quotations only sparingly. Epicgenius (talk) 01:15, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, the quotes should probably be trimmed—an overquotation dispute tag per WP:OVERQUOTE here would be valid enough, and would need to addressed before the nomination can proceed. Also, epicgenius is correct that if you receive your fifth DYK credit before this nomination is promoted/ran, you'll have to provide a QPQ anyway. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 01:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • As of now I dont have 5 DYK CREDITS, so I am exempt. What may happen in future will be addressed in future. Epicgenius I have only added quotes that I believe are adding value to the reader in understanding the incident. If you have already spotted some quote that you know that can be trimmed please post on article talk page. I will also do another survey and see if I can find something to trim. Venkat TL (talk) 08:42, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, I am aware you don't have 5 DYK credits; that's why I linked to your specific DYK credit page above. I was noting that, since you have 4 credits, you have to do a QPQ if any one of the other nominations are successful; all three of these nominations cannot possibly be the fifth nomination. However, I've now noticed that there's an ongoing discussion about this at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#QPQ freebies.
        Regarding quotations, there are some parts of the text that can add value to the reader if they are written in one's own words. I have no issue with quotes like "meant to subdue, by the use of force, the highest elected official in NCT of Delhi and therefore the elected Government of Delhi", as these can only be uniquely stated by one person. However, text like Today 11.30 am onwards, a dharna was started [...] Legal action is being initiated. does not seem to be particularly unique wording. I'm also concerned that the article quotes the high court petition extensively, especially as much of it (excluding the characterization of some of the participants as "goons") seems to just state facts. Epicgenius (talk) 12:43, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • Lets not talk about HYPOTHETICAL cases. Stick to the rules and avoid speculation. We will talk about it when we reach there. If there is a consensus to do QPQ before 5 Successful DYKs I will do it. Right now I am following the existing rules. Lets move over this QPQ and discuss the article and DYK. On this page lets stick to talking about the DYK elegibility and the article improvement, please. The timing in that statement is relevant. I have Copy edited and summarize the 2 quotes. please share your feedback. Venkat TL (talk) 13:10, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
          • lets stick to talking about the DYK elegibility and the article improvement, please - Don't try to detract from the review, since this is germane to eligibility. You have three pending nominations; two of them will require QPQs, so you can do them now or do them later. Since we are "following existing rules", I'm going to wait until the discussion closes before determining whether a QPQ is required here, because it seems the existing rules are unclear. Regarding the quotes, there are still several sentences where using your own words is preferable to quotations. For example, the phrase "water cannons to prevent the protesters from moving forward" can be reworded, as it's just an objective fact. There are more examples of this, such as parts of the high court petition, which you can say in your own words. Epicgenius (talk) 13:22, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
            • I am not detracting from the review, I am telling you to stick to the rules, which you are not. By waiting for the discussion to close, and unnecessary holding this DYK till then, you are NOT STICKING to the existing rules, but waiting in hope that the rules may change, what if the rules dont change? Please stick to the current rules irrespective of your preference of how the rules should be in future. I must remind you how the current WP:DYKRULES look quote If, at the time a nomination is promoted to the main page, its nominator has fewer than five DYK credits (whether or not self-nominated) then the nominator is exempt from QPQ. Notice, how the DYKRULES do not ask the DYK reviewrs to "hold on the DYK and wait, everytime someone has bright ideas about changing the DYK RULES." So please stop pestering me about QPQ and lets focus on the article. Thanks for the further review and feedback, I have modified those points about water cannon. Regarding the petition, I have tried copy editing them, but given up as I believe they are unique representation and cannot be summarized. I note that the reliable sources covering the incident, HINDU, NDTV etc have also quoted the petition for similar reasons, that I am facing. Venkat TL (talk) 13:42, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
              • I know what the DYK rules say; I quoted them at the beginning of this discussion. My point was that you would be exempt from QPQ for this article and that a QPQ would be required for future nominations. I was not saying you required it now, nor did I try to impose a "preference" or enforce a rule that didn't exist.
                Regarding the quotations, the article is a little bit better, but I think some sentences such as "Videos and photographs show that these goons casually walked through the security cordon [maintained by Delhi police], kicked and broke the boom barrier, broke the CCTVs cameras with 'lathis', threw paint on the gate of the residence and almost climbed over the gate, while Delhi police personnel simply looked on, doing little to stop the protesters" can still be rephrased. A similar issue applies to "They were carrying a small box of paint from which they threw paint at the door. In the imbroglio, a boom barrier arm was also found vandalised as also a CCTV camera." Epicgenius (talk) 14:06, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
                • Ok, of course, I will add the QPQ, when I reach 5 DYK CREDITs. Although I still feel we should use the quote, but I have followed your suggestion and copy edited those quotes in own language. Please take a look. Thanks again. Venkat TL (talk) 14:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article seems better now. There are still a few phrases such as "threw paint on the gate of the residence" that can be reworded. On the whole, the copyvio detector mainly displays quotes rather than actual copyright violations (though the quotes are quite long). I did not notice this before, but "It is pertinent to note, that in the past as well, on December 10, 2020, there was an attack on the residence of the Deputy Chief Minister by BJP Goons, where also, the Delhi Police did not take any steps to stop the attackers and thereafter failed to take any concrete criminal action against the attackers" can probably also be paraphrased. I have a suggestion for the hook: Epicgenius (talk) 14:58, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pseudoceratina

  • ... that Pseudoceratina is a genus of sponges that are best known for producing a chemical that can help prevent migration of metastatic breast cancer cells? Source: "Subereamolline A as a Potent Breast Cancer Migration, Invasion and Proliferation Inhibitor and Bioactive Dibrominated Alkaloids from the Red Sea Sponge Pseudoceratina arabica"

Created by Telfordk (talk). Self-nominated at 18:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Zionism as settler colonialism

  • ... that according to one study, settler colonialism has been successful inside Israel, but not in the territories occupied in 1967? Source: "Israeli/Zionist settler colonialism was remarkably successful before 1967, and was largely unsuccessful thereafter... When we think about settler colonialism in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, we need to direct our gaze both towards the West Bank, where it has manifestly failed, and towards Israel proper, where it succeeded." Veracini 2013

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 07:33, 2 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Sharp PC-4500

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 2 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 3[edit]

List of accolades received by Shiva Baby

  • ... that Shiva Baby is considered one of the best comedy, horror, queer, Jewish, debut independent films of 2020 and 2021?
    • ALT1: ... that Shiva Baby was one of the most-awarded films to not receive an Oscar nomination in 2022?
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zamia pygmaea
    • Comment: I find alt0 to be witty from the implication of over-specificity; I have been cautious with the phrasing of alt1 as it is based on a source (here, oddly, that makes me somewhat cautious as I have not done the math on every Oscar-eligible film myself to 'check'). Article also nominated at FLC, but nothing in either set of instructions precludes this nom, too.

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 23:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Taco pizza

Taco pizza
Taco pizza

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:44, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • The page is sufficiently new.
  • The page's prose is long enough.
  • There are several substantial policy issues with the page:
    1. With respect to neutrality, half of the article is currently dedicated to the claims of a single individual who managed to get local newspapers to report that he claims to have invented taco pizza. There might be WP:DUE issues here, since half of the page is basically dedicated to one man claiming that he is the creator of the cuisine. Surely half of the extant sourcing about taco pizza is not about this claim.
    2. Sources are cited inline. One of the citations fails verification; there is nothing in the source that describes "Casey's Pizza" as being a gas station chain. I'm a bit puzzled to where this claim comes from. The third source is a link to an 1990s-era advertisement in a newspaper, so I'm not sure the mention of Godfather's pizza is really all that worth mentioning, but it's cited.
    3. The article appears to be free of copyvio and related issues.
  • The hook meets all formatting guidelines.
  • The content of the hook is interesting to a broad audience, cited to a reliable (enough) source, and does not create BLP issues.
  • The QPQ checks out.
  • The image, which comes from Flickr, is listed under a CC-BY-2.0 license.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg. Substantial work needs to be done in order to improve the neutrality of the article as it pertains to the amount of weight given to the claims of the person claiming to have invented the taco pizza. — Mhawk10 (talk) 19:34, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mhawk10 The sources I just found here and here makes me believe that "the claims of a single individual who managed to get local newspapers to report that he claims to have invented taco pizza." is heavily downplaying it when the person was directly involved with the court case. That would also be original research into how the newspapers wrote the stories which is unacceptable on Wikipedia. It can't have WP:DUE issues if he is one of the three potential sources for the origin of the food. SL93 (talk) 23:02, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I reworked the article by removing a lot of content about the restaurant Happy Joe's. There are now only four sentences about just the location and one sentence with them relating to the lawsuit. I sourced the Casey's gas station bit and expanded it with a better source. I found a better source for Godfather's Pizza. I reworked the article sections. Work was needed, but I don't feel that it was substantial work that was needed. SL93 (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Das eine Brot wächst auf vielen Halmen

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

The Cage (ballet)

5x expanded by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 19:00, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Conrad Bangkok

5x expanded by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 08:57, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Arlington County Board v. Richards

Arlington County, VA, parking permit
Arlington County, VA, parking permit

Moved to mainspace by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 04:31, 3 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 4[edit]

Alligator (Of Monsters and Men song)

  • ... that with "Alligator", Of Monsters and Men had their second top-ten hit on the Billboard Hot Rock Songs chart and their first number-one on the magazine's Rock Airplay chart? Source: "'Alligator'" ascends 15-9 on the latest streaming-, airplay- and sales-based Hot Rock Songs chart, marking the band’s first top 10 on the tally since 'Little Talks,'" link "Of Monsters and Men Nabs First Rock Airplay No. 1 With 'Alligator'".link

Created by HumanxAnthro (talk). Self-nominated at 14:14, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Rachel Dyer

  • ... that Rachel Dyer portrays sexual frustration as a cause of the Salem witch trials? Source: Page 301 of this published dissertation says: "Later in the novel [Rachel Dyer], when George Burroughs is condemned to death on the false testimony of a woman whose love he rejected, sexual frustration and jealousy become openly destructive forces, which critics have duly noted. But the ground for this development is already laid in this early chapter, when the sexual awakening of Bridget Pope is directly linked to the outbreak of witchcraft."

Created by Dugan Murphy (talk). Self-nominated at 01:10, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new, long enough, hook is properly cited and there are no copyvio concerns. My only comment is the plot summary appears to be over 1,000 words, whereas the general suggested length says "400 to 700 words are usually sufficient for a full-length work". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:25, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Sayifwanda

  • ... that Sarah Sayifwanda, the first Zambian Minister of Gender and Development, was once arrested for allegedly inciting a tribal fight? Source: "Last year, Zambia Police arrested Ms Sayifwanda in connection with the tribal fight that occurred in Zambezi district between the Lunda’s and Luvales during an ECZ delimitation.

It was alleged that Ms Sayifwanda was the one who forcefully grabbed the microphone from the ECZ official and strongly opposed the creation of a central constituency which the majority voted in favor of. Ms Sayifwanda’s behaviour was said to be what triggered the throwing of chairs at each other by the lundas and luvales as she accused the electoral commission of Zambia officials of siding with the luvales."

https://www.lusakatimes.com/2020/12/31/former-zambezi-east-mp-sara-sayifwanda-has-died/

Created by 19jshi (talk). Self-nominated at 00:50, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Iain Maxwell Stewart

  • ... that by devising the Fairfield Experiment in industrial relations, Iain Maxwell Stewart inspired The Bowler and the Bunnet, Sean Connery's sole film as a director? Source: From Scottish Review, Galbraith: "Connery, aged 37, chose Glasgow to fulfil a long-held ambition – to step back from his usual role in front of camera and direct his own movie, a documentary about the woeful state of industrial relations in Britain, centred on Clydeside, with the colourful title, The Bowler and the Bunnet. The subject, as developed by Connery, embraced the ill-fated Fairfield experiment, brainchild of the Scottish industrialist, Sir Iain Stewart, who believed passionately in the idea that all sides of industry were mutually dependent."

5x expanded by Paul W (talk). Self-nominated at 16:17, 4 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Palucca University of Dance Dresden

5x expanded by TSventon (talk). Self-nominated at 15:43, 4 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Symbol question.svg Interesting school, on fine sourcs, and I can read the German ones, no copyvio obvious. Why no image? - In the hook, I suggest to say the almost unbelievable thing that she taught until 1991, with a founding year, perhaps adding the interruption during World War II? Sadly, just having to close is nothing too specific. Also: this is about the school, not her. - I'd like a bit more about the modern additional buildings, and perhaps the pic of Palucca rather than a tiny girl? Infobox? - There's a good one in German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Minye Kyawswa I of Ava

5x expanded by Hybernator (talk). Self-nominated at 01:36, 4 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Martin Fehérváry

Fehérváry with the Washington Capitals in 2022
Fehérváry with the Washington Capitals in 2022

5x expanded by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 5[edit]

Guido Imbens

Economist Guido Imbens
Economist Guido Imbens
  • ... that research by economist Guido Imbens showed that unemployed people who won $15,000 in the lottery were more likely than unemployed non-winners to become employed in the six years after playing? Source: Imbens, Guido W.; Rubin, Donald B.; Sacerdote, Bruce (March 1999). "Estimating the Effect of Unearned Income on Labor Supply, Earnings, Savings, and Consumption: Evidence from a Survey of Lottery Players". National Bureau of Economic Research Working Papers: 2.

Improved to Good Article status by Filetime (talk). Self-nominated at 16:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Wolfram Menschick

Wolfram Menschick
Wolfram Menschick

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:13, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Asahi Linux

5x expanded by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Josef V. von Wöss

Josef Venantius von Wöss in the 1930s
Josef Venantius von Wöss in the 1930s

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Maks Levin

  • ... that a photograph by Maks Levin, showing destroyed buildings in Kyiv, graced the cover of a March 2022 edition of the German magazine Der Spiegel? Source: [43] and that cover shown
    • Reviewed: Main Title (The West Wing)
    • Comment: There were many authors, but mostly with a few contribs. I'd like to mention them all, because it would be unfair to single some out.

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:46, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

2021 Tennessee floods

  • ... that the 2021 Tennessee floods on August 21 were caused by up to 20.73 inches (527 mm) of rain in less than 12 hours, breaking Tennessee's 24-hour precipitation record? Source: news article

"The devastating rainfall that hit Middle Tennessee on August 21 has officially set the state's record for total precipitation within a 24-hour period. ... confirmed that 20.73 inches of rainfall fell in McEwen at the Tennessee Wastewater Treatment Plant, breaking the state's 24-hour precipitation record."

Created by United States Man (talk). Self-nominated at 04:33, 5 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Special occasion holding area[edit]

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