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How should Wiki Education assignments be announced on article talk page?

How should Wiki Education assignments be announced on article talk page? --Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

In late 2020, this Templates for Deletion discussion for the {{dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment}} template indicated the need to make some changes to how the Wiki Education Dashboard handles announcing and updating which courses and student editors plan to work on an article. However, there was no consensus on what specifically should be changed, and in the time since then, there doesn't seem to have been any interest in figuring that out. (Recently, the template was temporarily changed to be subst-only, and then all the usages of it were substituted into talk page sections via PrimeBOT. That caused some cases of the bot and the Dashboard edit warring with each other, so it's been reverted for now.) I'd like to settle the desired behavior, so I can implement any needed changes on the Dashboard side.

Here are some possible options I could implement:

1. The template should be substituted onto talk pages in a new section (similarly to what PrimeBOT did with all the previous usages). In this case, it would only be added once, without being updated when additional student editors sign up for the same article. It might get re-added if the section gets archived or removed before the course ends.
2. The template should go at the top of a talk page like WikiProject banners, but it should be automatically hidden after the course ends.
3. The template should be added in a new section but not substituted, and — as it has been at the top of the page until now — updated (or removed) automatically when new editors from the same course sign up or change articles. In this case, it might get re-added if the section gets archived or removed before the course ends, but won't get re-added after that.
4. The template should not be used at all. Assigned articles will still be linked from wiki course pages (like this) but don't need to be announced on article talk pages.

Indicate your preference and/or discuss below. --Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Survey

Indicate your preference(s) below.

Option 1: Substitute the template to a new section

• Second choice after Option 3; my rationale there mainly holds, but this is an acceptable option (for me) for those folks who definitely do-not-want a banner, even in its own section. I do recognise that it makes updating things harder, but we're all bright folks and I'm sure we can figure it out. Primefac (talk) 15:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
• Third choice, after: 1. Option 3a; 2. Option 3. Nominating Primefac as bright folk #1. Mathglot (talk) 21:50, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
• Support as second choice per Primefac. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• Last choice as I believe Option 3 allows for updating as new students are added: it is easier to check student edits after the fact if new students are updated. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:01, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• Support (equal preference with option 3). ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Option 2: Put the template in the top section, hide it after the course ends

• First choice: This is my preferred option. I think it's both the most useful and the easiest to implement (aside from not using it at all). Almost all the existing usages have already been substituted into section by PrimeBOT, so the only ones that would show up at the top of talk pages would be newly-added ones — and they would only be rendered until the course ends. (It would be possible to make the continue rendering for some fixed period after the course ends, if that's preferable.)--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose, mainly because of the opposition to an excess of potentially unnecessary banners at the top of the page. Speaking for myself, however, a glut of hidden banners is almost worse than a glut of out-of-date banners - who if anyone is going to remove them? Primefac (talk) 15:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

  How is a #glut of hidden banners worse? Surely it's the best of both worlds as the archive bot will remove them; after all, they're a section, now. Mathglot (talk) 20:04, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

  A bunch of hidden banners gives no information to anyone. At the very least, an archived section (in some form) tells that in the past there were students who edited the page. One shouldn't need to edit the page on the off chance that there is a hidden WikiEd banner to tell them that. If they're a section that will be archived, then there is no need to have them be a top-of-the-page banner or hide it when it's done. Primefac (talk) 11:53, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. I think it's important that there be a permanent record somewhere visible that a student edited a course. The appropriate place for that would be a talk page section, or the archives if it's a busy talk page. We already know how to handle archiving, and this shouldn't be any different for WikiEd courses than it is for any other talk page notice. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose, don't want these going away after the course ends, as often text needs to be checked months after that. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:58, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Primefac and Sdkb -- not much to add to the points they've made. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Option 3: Put the template in a new section, and updated it as needed

• First choice over Option 1: to quote myself from the TFD close, the consensus at this point is to convert it to a talk page message of some variety. This allows for the message to be archived when it has gotten stale (and avoids the necessity of someone remembering to remove the banner after it has expired re: Option 2), but in thinking about it having it as a message box still allows for ease of updating by whatever script still exists (updating a parameter is easier than updating prose. Primefac (talk) 15:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
• Second choice, after option 3a below. But has problems with consumption of vertical space, and swamping other discussions in the worst cases. Mathglot (talk) 21:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
• Support as first choice per Primefac. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 03:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• Second choice. This relatively easy to implement and doesn't make en.wiki behavior too different from the unchanged behavior that will still be in place for other languages, and I think it will be unlikely to cause too much confusion--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:35, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• Second choice (this allows for normal archiving). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:59, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• Support (equal preference with option 1). ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Option 3a: Put the template in a new section, auto-collapse, auto-archive after <period>

This is similar to option 3 above, but requires:

➢ the individual sections to be enclosed in an auto-collapsed header such as {{WikiEd banner shell}};

➢ an auto-archiving bot to be added to the page if not there already, with a default archiving period.

• This is my First choice given the Tfd outcome (which did not go the way I hoped, so working within it). My preference for archive period, is assignment |end-date= + 182 days).

The auto-collapse avoids the large amount of vertical space after the header and before the discussion sections on the page, or mixed in and swamping them (see major offenders: Talk:Social media, Talk:Artificial intelligence, Talk:Gender equality. See discussion below for how they would look if collapsed.) The auto-archiving prevents the sections from sticking around after they're stale, and Sage or a tweaked Primebot could add auto-archiving for TPs that lacked them. Mathglot (talk) 21:41, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

• This is my first choice as well, assuming the auto-archiving is set to the same as the rest of the talk page. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:57, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• The issue of bots setting up auto-archiving maybe shouldn't be bundled into the proposal, although I see the issue with the bot-generated spam (though note it was already an issue before they turned into talk page sections, except before they were talk page banners). The collapsing of talk page sections is problematic in general (eg it doesn't work on mobile), so I don't really like this solution. It just hides the problem from the most active editors (who are probably desktop editors) and distracts from the need for better solutions. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
• First choice. (IMHO the only viable option.) If the talk page section could be placed in chronological order that would be ideal. Otherwise, why should everyone else follow the chronological order guideline if WikiEd can violate it? (I recognize that WikiEd does not intent to violate anything, and I am a strong supporter of WikiEd. I phrased it in that way to reflect how the average Wikipedian probably views out-of-order talk page sections.) Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 23:52, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Option 4: Don't use the template at all

• Oppose: yes banner blindness and all that, but it is imperative that we know when students have edited an article so those edits an be checked. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
• I think a talk page section is a decent idea. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:21, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Option 5: Other (specify)

• WikiProject template, similar to that used for Articles for creation. It does contribute to the excess of potentially unnecessary banners, but as it can be collapsed with the WikiProject banner shell I believe that issue is reduced, while it would have the additional benefit of making it easier to determine within Wikipedia existing systems which articles have been contributed to as part of WikiEd, something that I believe would be useful. BilledMammal (talk) 14:54, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

Sage (Wiki Ed), I think this could use an {{rfc}} tag at the top in order to garner more opinions from a wider range of editors. Primefac (talk) 15:34, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Agreed, re Rfc.

Secondly, this is a dry, technical topic, that may scare off or fail to interest many of the regulars here, and we really need good participation. How would you feel about adding an Intro section (possibly collapsed to save vertical space) above the "Survey" section, reprising what the main issue was in the first place, a brief summary of the Tfd result and why it turned out that way, and possibly pointers to some TPs (old revs, if already bot-adjusted) illustrating RW examples of the issues this is all trying to solve; maybe before/after revs, or a side-by-side example, or something. Not sure exactly what should go there, but basically, whatever would break this out of its dry, technical world, and demonstrate the reality of it and why it matters and how this may affect ENB regulars in a way to pique their interest in responding.

Maybe I'm all wet; SandyGeorgia, could you help me out here with your reaction? I think you have your feet on the ground wrt this kind of thing: as already worded above, is the write-up sufficient to explain clearly what this is about, why it (should) matter to you, and to gain your interest in responding to it? If not, do you think an Intro paragraph or two as proposed would help, or can you think of anything that would? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 18:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Oops, Sandy I just realized that you were aware of the original Tfd, so are unlikely to be confused about all this even without additional summary or explanation. Tryptofish, same question as I posed to Sandy above: can you help with your thoughts? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:10, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. To be brutally honest, I've read all of the options – and I don't care! I understand the ways that editors can find the notices annoying, but they've never seemed like a big deal to me. Maybe something in the way of a talk page section message, rather than a banner, would be good, but I kind-of think the most useful things to do are to: (1) cut down on students constantly updating the thing during the course, and (2) let it be archived after the class is over. As to how to do that technically, meh. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:18, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

To your point (1) - I think students making 80 edits over two minutes is extremely problematic (my bot can't even get that level of action); cutting that down would be nice. To your point (2), Options 1 and 3 are basically "have them be a talk page section" which would then be archived after it's over. Primefac (talk) 19:30, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

This case of so many edits in a short period was the confluence of some technical aspects of what the Dashboard currently does: whenever a user updates an assigned article on the Dashboard, their account is used to update the assigned article's talk page with the template — either adding the template if it's not already there, or updating it with the current set of assigned editors. Since these edits occasionally fail (for example, because of edit conflicts), the Dashboard also attempts to perform the same update for every other assigned article for that class. In most cases, this basically means that whenever one student editor updates their assignment, it results in the occasional extra edit to also update another talk page on behalf of another editor whose edit failed. Unless those templates are being removed so that the template code can't be found on the page when the next assignment gets added for that course, the system doesn't end up making any rapidfire edits like we saw in the edit war with PrimeBOT. (This is the only part of the Dashboard's editing system that uses this sort of strategy; it makes me a little nervous precisely because of the potential for warring with bots, but on balance I think it's worth it to ensure that talk pages get tagged with very high consistency.)--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm glad you pinged me as I haven't been able to keep up. And I'm a bit confused about the options listed. Can examples of each be added? That would help those who are new to the discussion, and even me (old to the discussion). I prefer a talk page section be added to the top of the talk page, updated as needed (eg if new students sign on), and that can then be archived as all talk page threads are, according to whatever archive method is used on that particular article talk page. But I don't know what is referenced with "hide it after course ends". No! If I come to an article two months after a course ends, I need to know who all the student editors were, so I can check all those edits, and then decide whether or not to archive the section. Is that covered in one of the options above? I don't want to hide them in banners, which is more talk clutter; I want to archive them. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:41, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Sandy. You might like Option 3a above, which I added simultaneously to your comment here, so you might not have seen it yet. You get to pick your own preference for <period>, which might handle your concerns about what happens two months after the course ends. I happened to pick "assignment end-date + 6 months", without having seen your message. Mathglot (talk) 21:59, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Sandy, so you can see what Option 3a might look like in action, I've added auto-archiving (6 mos.) and a collapse message to Talk:Social media in education, so it now has eleven collapsed student assignment sections in it. As a lot of those collapsed courses are older than 6 months now, as soon as the bot passes by it should go down steeply from eleven to a much lower number. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 22:31, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

That's what I'm on for :) I am crazy busy, so if this gets a formal RFC tag, would someone kindly ping me ? Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:57, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

@SandyGeorgia: it's an RfC now.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:53, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Yep, my plan was to let it get started over the weekend so the discussion could take shape somewhat first. I'll make it an RFC now.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:51, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

glut of hidden banners

Why wouldn't either of these work? The downside—if there is one—is the section headers appearing in the ToC—as they do on this page, above and it's ugly but that's also the reality of how they will appear on Talk pages where converted templates are present, and is no worse than what would occur *without* this solution. I presume the Archive bots are not perturbed by some template code sitting above a level-2 section header, and will properly grab the section and archive it anyway. (If not, it should simply be fixed to do so, at worst with a param to allow it, if this is somehow not the desirable functionality by default, though imho it should be.)

A bunch of Wiki Ed banners here

Some intro text about what's going on here.

Example converted wiki ed assignment section Five

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Meanwhile, maybe Sage can tweak something, so that when the last converted wiki ed assignment has been archived by a bot, the banner shell can be removed as well. Mathglot (talk) 20:18, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Note that if a collapse reduces the number of total uncollapsed sections to below the TOC threshold, the table of contents will appear within the collapsed section, as is currently the case at Talk:Social media in education. (But you may miss seeing this example if the archive bot gets there before you do.) This could either be seen as a "feature", or mitigated by adding __TOC__ after the page header, when adding the collapse template.) Mathglot (talk) 22:36, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

User:Σ, based on your knowledge of archive bot internals, can you comment here on whether there is any interaction between lowercase sigmabot III and archivable Talk page sections that happen to be within the scope of a hidden text attribute, and if so what happens? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:07, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

User:Cobi, same question, regarding ClueBot III. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 23:14, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Results

Thank you, everyone who participated! I think we have a pretty clear result. The consensus is that assignments should be added as new sections, updated as needed during the term, so that they can be archived (either manually or by bot) after they are no longer relevant. There's also support for rolling in auto-collapsing as well, although I'm not certain about how to do that technically (and the facts it doesn't work on mobile, and isn't often used for normal chronological bottom-of-the-page talk sections makes me a little hesitant). I'm going to go ahead with implementing option 3, and we can revisit this in the future if needed.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:15, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Sage, keep me updated on how things are going and what (if anything) needs updating with the dashboard template. For example, if the students/script are adding the section headers, then I can remove that from the template (makes archiving easier was well). I don't think we need to worry about autocollapse, it's a pretty "short" template and it will be contained in its own section anyway. Primefac (talk) 14:36, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

User:Primefac: I'm deploying the update shortly. I'll change the template to remove the section header, as the dashboard will take care of that (including the course name in the header).--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:20, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Looks like it's working as intended. Here's the behavior for a new assignment: diff.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:03, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Lookin' good. I think the main thing to think about next is timestamps - a section like that won't get archived without a timestamp. Primefac (talk) 19:38, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Unnecessary Speedy Deletion

I have been referred here by user: Bbb23 who was entirely unhelpful. My encyclopedic article was put up for "Speedy Deletion Review" where I contested the Speedy Deletion. The article was written objectively, using accurate sources that were properly cited. The user who responded to my contention disagreed with the standing of my article solely because they felt it was non-encyclopedic as well as questioned my reasoning for posting the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cpetrov (talk • contribs) 00:37, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

@Cpetrov:, you are apparently referring to this: User talk:Cpetrov#Speedy deletion nomination of Nechako Housing Commons. As User:Bbb23 tried to explain to you, your article Nechako Housing Commons was deleted under speedy deletion criterion G11 – Unambiguous advertising or promotion. "Nechako Housing Commons" refers to a dormitory under construction on the campus of the University of British Columbia. It's highly unlikely that this would be considered notable enough under Wikipedia's guidelines to have a stand-alone article written about it.

You misunderstand the importance of sources, which you may have properly cited (I cannot tell, as the article is no longer there)—yes, sources are important, but before you get to sources, the topic itself must be notable, or you can include all the sources you want, and it wouldn't make any difference. A non-notable topic may not have a stand-alone article about it on Wikipedia. Conceivably, you could add a brief mention of the dorm in the #Campus section of the article University of British Columbia (Okanagan Campus), but frankly, I doubt it would even meet the threshold of importance within the BC University system to rate even a mention.

If you wish to try, I recommend going to the Talk page of the article (you can find it at Talk:University of British Columbia (Okanagan Campus)) and add a section there concerning what you plan to do at the article, and see how other editors react. Hope this helps, Mathglot (talk) 03:07, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

P.S., did you write your article under another user ID, or perhaps when you were not logged into your account? I don't see any edits of yours at that article in your contribution history.   Explained below. Mathglot (talk) 03:12, 30 January 2022 (UTC) Edited. Mathglot (talk) 03:35, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

@Mathglot: You wouldn't be able to see the user's contributions as the article was deleted.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Cpetrov, the standard of sourcing required for residential halls of tertiary institutions is very high. Several houses of the University of Canterbury with > 50 years of history and book-length histories published have been deleted. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the helpful information. I will not be submitting the article again, I appreciate your explanations, all. (Cpetrov (talk) 19:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC))

Freedom Convoy 2022 Assignment

This article, under discretionary sanctions and covering a controversial ongoing protest with broad media coverage, has been assigned as the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. This appears problematic, and so I am raising it here; if this is the wrong location, my apologies.

In this context, I would also like to ask what circumstances Wiki Ed rejects the use of a specific article in an assignment? BilledMammal (talk) 05:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

I mean, the first and most obvious question to ask is - can any of the students working on that page even edit it? It's under ECP and I have yet to see an Ed student with more than 100 edits when they start out. Primefac (talk) 08:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Primefac: someone's also grabbed Anti-LGBT rhetoric. SN54129 11:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, that probably won't go over much better. Why do these Ed courses pick the most heavily-watched and highly-charged topics to try and throw totally new and inexperienced editors into? WikiEd instructors should be telling folks to find a stub and improve it, not to write garbage drafts on never-notable people or edit in heavily-patrolled areas (where their contributions will be little if any if they're even kept). Primefac (talk) 11:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

We absolutely do discourage them from editing controversial and well-developed articles. The instructions clearly point them to start and stub class articles. The vast majority do, but some topics are incredibly attractive (bubble tea, is particularly bad). Sage is working on a way to warn students away from certain articles at the assignment stage, but it's still a bit in the future.

In this case, if I had seen it I would have suggested another article. I do get notifications when students assign themselves articles which have been tagged with DS warnings, but it looks like this one wasn't. While I wouldn't tell a class working on LGBT topics they couldn't edit an article like this, I don't know if it is as good a choice for a media studies class. I will get in touch with the instructor about this one. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:41, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Genuinely glad to hear this :-) Primefac (talk) 14:44, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ian (Wiki Ed) I've got to ask: why bubble tea? I mean, I know bubble tea itself is popular, but the article? for undergraduate classes? -- asilvering (talk) 21:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@Asilvering I wish I knew. I think it's mainly people in general writing classes who are free to work on anything, rather than, say, a class on food chemistry. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:57, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

The fact that bubble tea is popular among student editors doesn't surprise me at all, although it does sort of make me chuckle. At the start of the quarter as a way to warm up the room I asked each of my students to tell me something yummy, and maybe 1 in 8 said bubble tea. What I'm noticing is that for a lot of my students, their choice of article is strongly linked to the things they love and miss, often related to their home, and that goes double for my international students -- a favorite dish, their region/hometown, a park they enjoyed as a kid, their high school..... As they say, where you edit is where you live :) Kaylea Champion (talk) 05:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

I didn't consider that, but I would be surprised if they could. BilledMammal (talk) 10:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

@BilledMammal: I get notifications when students assign themselves articles like these, and I would have steered them away from it had it not been subject to ECP. Aside from the difficulty of contributing to a controversial topic like this, there's the fact that it's being actively edited and the event itself is still ongoing. But as it turns out, when a student assigns themselves a protected article, the Dashboard sends an email to them and their instructor letting them know that the article is protected and they won't be able to edit it. What they choose to do next is up to them. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:30, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Glad to hear it, thank you. BilledMammal (talk) 14:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)