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Numbering scheme

The number scheme 2022-09 as used in dissemination like that is misleading and confusing.

• By ISO 8601 this is to be interpreted as “September 2022”.
• If I do not know that it is distributed on weekly rather than monthly basis I would assign the wrong time in year for the first 12 issues.
• Tech/News/2022/09 is much better to identify volume 2022, issue 09.
• Please identfy like 2022/09 in future.

Greetings --PerfektesChaos (talk) 15:34, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

@PerfektesChaos Hi. Good point, and thanks for the clear details.

Unfortunately, some people might be equally confused by 2022/09.

We're thinking about how to resolve this in a way that doesn't result in a need for more translation efforts (i.e. without using more translatable words, e.g. "week/issue/edition").

IIUC, there is also the small added complexity that / would be converted into %2F within URLs that are copy&pasted elsewhere, which would make the end of URLs look like #Tech%2FNews%2F2022%2F06 (vs the current #Tech_News:_2022-06).

So, there are benefits and drawbacks to all the options... :-/ But we'll keep thinking about it, and other ideas are appreciated. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Looking over my keyboard I detect in ASCII

• Tech News: 2022, 09
• Tech News: 2022; 09
• Tech News: 2022 (09)
• Tech News: 2022 '09
• Tech News: 2022:09

# is not appreciated in fragment identifiers. Both. and § have other shortcomes.

Latin letters are not compatible with a cultural multiverse project. Even in France they are using semaine and would not catch a w for week and Germans are not familiar with issue.

Best, --PerfektesChaos (talk) 11:59, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

On URL fragments: I think I might be wrong on that one... I was guessing that based on my regular frustration with ? turning into %3F, and the list of w:Percent-encoding#Reserved_characters. But, I've now found some examples, and after testing it seems we don't need to worry about / (e.g. w:(α/Fe) versus (Fe/H) diagram becomes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(%CE%B1/Fe)_versus_(Fe/H)_diagram when I paste it.)

On wording: Oh, what I meant was... There's a new feature that enables translatable headers in massmessages, and so we were already trying to think of how to improve the header (phab:T302920). We want to avoid changing it from Tech News: $year-$week to Tech News: $year, week $week (or similar) where the word "week" is translatable before it is sent. We want to avoid adding any more translatable words, if possible.

We will probably end up using Tech/News/2022/09, partially because that's the actual page-title! But we're not rushing any change. HTH. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 18:16, 4 March 2022 (UTC)