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The-lambda-way (talkcontribs)

I tried to update a dead link under MediaWiki-Vagrant#Authoring roles and got directed here. Perhaps links to the Puppet website should be whitelisted? Or is there some other procedure for adding Puppet links I'm unaware of?

Pppery (talkcontribs)

Agreed that puppet links should be exempted from that abuse filter. I've made the edit, and for what it's worth you've now made enough edits to MediaWiki.org that further attempts to add links or modify links should succeed.

The-lambda-way (talkcontribs)

Appreciate it :)

Connection between interwikies

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Nicolae Coman (talkcontribs)
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Remember to Participate in the UCoC Conversations and Ratification Vote!

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.

Hello everyone,

A vote in SecurePoll from 7 to 21 March 2022 is scheduled as part of the ratification process for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) Enforcement guidelines. Eligible voters are invited to answer a poll question and share comments. Read voter information and eligibility details. During the poll, voters will be asked if they support the enforcement of the Universal Code of Conduct based on the proposed guidelines.

The Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC) provides a baseline of acceptable behavior for the entire movement. The revised enforcement guidelines were published 24 January 2022 as a proposed way to apply the policy across the movement. A Wikimedia Foundation Board statement calls for a ratification process where eligible voters will have an opportunity to support or oppose the adoption of the UCoC Enforcement guidelines in a vote. Wikimedians are invited to translate and share important information. For more information about the UCoC, please see the project page and frequently asked questions on Meta-wiki.

There are events scheduled to learn more and discuss:

  • A community panel recorded on 18 February 2022 shares perspectives from small- and medium-sized community participants.
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Xeno (WMF) 02:17, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

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Summary by Clump

Not done.

Fragguni9989 (talkcontribs)

Hello. I am new to MediaWiki. I cant't edit the page above because Clump decided to protect that page. Will you temporarily unprotect it for 1 hour please? Thank you if you help me! --Fragguni9989 (talk) 02:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

P858snake (talkcontribs)

@Fragguni9989 You can post your enquiry here, and Clump or another administrator will see it.

Fragguni9989 (talkcontribs)

@Clump: To tell you to ask Koavf on wikispecies to unblock me.

Clump (talkcontribs)

I have no connection with that wiki.

Unprotect request on Hosting Services

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Nferrari (talkcontribs)
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Please take this 5 minute MediaWiki maintenance script survey

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Jayprakash12345 (talkcontribs)

Dear MediaWiki users/members,


I am writing to provide an update on the improvements to the MediaWiki maintenance script documentation on mediawiki.org, as well as to ask you to fill out a survey that will help us to understand these improvements better.


Project Pralekhan is a documentation project under which MediaWiki's maintenance script documentation is being improved. Under this project, I have documented 134 scripts so far. Apart from this, the main landing page for maintenance scripts has been improved with a sidebar for easier navigation.


If you are a developer or admin involved in running and maintaining a MediaWiki site, we kindly ask you to respond to this survey by 3 March 2022 (UTC):


https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeD7swk2j5SvV0JUtZMADIiY74htZmZq1DoO4gU1vgcfZSrTQ/viewform?usp=sf_link


Your response is highly appreciated. Your input plays a key role in the analysis and recommendations to ensure more improvements to MediaWiki maintenance scripts.


Thank you and regards

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Template:Bundled/fi doesn't exist while most of it's translations does

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Summary last edited by Pppery 18:48, 20 February 2022 14 days ago
Jnovikov (talkcontribs)
Ciencia Al Poder (talkcontribs)
Pppery (talkcontribs)

Noting that this was filed as phab:T301764 (which I failed to notice originally and filed a duplicate task, oops)

Nikerabbit (talkcontribs)

The issue is that <translate> tags are used inside JSON content (templatedata), which is not safe. You can avoid issues with <translate nowrap>, but that isn't fully safe either.

Ciencia Al Poder (talkcontribs)

I've added all the existing translations to templatedata directly. I haven't marked the page for translation yet in case someone wants to double-check (since marking for translation would delete the units). But otherwise it should fix the problem once it gets marked for translation.

We should find other instances of translate tags inside templatedata, and be sure the relevant people adding those tags are aware of the problem. cc @Wladek92, @Shirayuki

Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

Thanks for warning. I rather update the template data form when it exists but the remark is good to know.

Christian 🇫🇷 FR (talk) 17:12, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Shirayuki (talkcontribs)
Wladek92 (talkcontribs)

do we update tag:templatedata ? may be risk of duplicate if "{{PAGELANGUAGE}}" remains

Christian 🇫🇷 FR (talk) 21:52, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Pppery (talkcontribs)

Would it be a good idea to write a Lua module than converts translations from the form the Translate extension produces to the form TemplateData expects?

Ciencia Al Poder (talkcontribs)

If I'm not mistaken, such module would require to fetch individual translations from all languages the page has been translated to. That would be one expensive call per language per unit, where we have one unit per parameter and one for the template alone. This can quickly escalate to the current limit of costly calls, which is 500.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talkcontribs)

Thank you to @Shirayuki for fixing both of these mistakes.

Tacsipacsi (talkcontribs)

I haven't marked the page for translation yet in case someone wants to double-check (since marking for translation would delete the units).

The unit pages themselves aren’t automatically deleted, e.g. Translations:Template:Bundled/11/fi still exists, so reverting the edits would restore the translations (although as far as I remember, fuzzy state is lost when the unit is removed and later re-added).

That would be one expensive call per language per unit, where we have one unit per parameter and one for the template alone.

Somewhat silly, but I think template transclusion doesn’t count to that limit (there are other limits on template transclusion, though). So going through all languages, trying to transclude the translations and catching the exception if it doesn’t exist could actually work without reaching the limit. (Although it could make sense to go through the languages, check with #ifexist’s Lua equivalent if the template itself (not a translation unit) exists in that language, and going through only the translation units that may realistically exist. This way we go over 300 languages only once, the rest of the loops go over only the existing few or few dozen languages.)

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Important: Admin activity review (2022)

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MarcoAurelio (talkcontribs)

Hello,

A policy regarding the removal of "advanced permissions" (administrator, bureaucrat, interface administrator, etc.) was adopted by global community consensus in 2013.

While this wiki was initially excluded, this community decided in August 2020 to explicitly opt-in. Accordingly, the stewards are reviewing the activity of the accounts with advanced permissions based on the admin activity review policy.

We have determined that the following users meet the inactivity criteria (no edits and no logged actions for more than 2 years):

These users will receive a notification soon in their talk pages, asking them to start a community discussion if they want to retain some or all of their current advanced permissions. If the users do not respond, then their advanced permissions will be removed by the stewards without further notice after one month of the notification.

Please let us know at the stewards' noticeboard on Meta-Wiki if you have any questions or concerns.

Best regards.

GeorgeBarnick (talkcontribs)

I've submitted a request for removal of administrator rights for myself on metawiki. If I ever find a need for them again I'll submit a new request.

Jorm (talkcontribs)

I no longer need them; they can be removed.

Risker (talkcontribs)

No longer require them, so have requested removal.

Stanglavine (talkcontribs)

Permissions removed yesterday, since no one more answered. Thanks,

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Wiki Loves Folklore is extended till 15th March

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)
Please help translate to your language

Greetings from Wiki Loves Folklore International Team,

We are pleased to inform you that Wiki Loves Folklore an international photographic contest on Wikimedia Commons has been extended till the 15th of March 2022. The scope of the contest is focused on folk culture of different regions on categories, such as, but not limited to, folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, etc.

We would like to have your immense participation in the photographic contest to document your local Folk culture on Wikipedia. You can also help with the translation of project pages and share a word in your local language.

Best wishes,

International Team
Wiki Loves Folklore

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:50, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

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Desktop Improvements update and Office Hours invitation

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MediaWiki message delivery (talkcontribs)

Hello. I wanted to give you an update about the Desktop Improvements project, which the Wikimedia Foundation Web team has been working on for the past few years.

The goals of the project are to make the interface more welcoming and comfortable for readers and useful for advanced users. The project consists of a series of feature improvements which make it easier to read and learn, navigate within the page, search, switch between languages, use article tabs and the user menu, and more.

The improvements are already visible by default for readers and editors on 24 wikis, including Wikipedias in French, Portuguese, and Persian.

The changes apply to the Vector skin only. Monobook or Timeless users are not affected.

Features deployed since our last update

  • User menu - focused on making the navigation more intuitive by visually highlighting the structure of user links and their purpose.
  • Sticky header - focused on allowing access to important functionality (logging in/out, history, talk pages, etc.) without requiring people to scroll to the top of the page.

For a full list of the features the project includes, please visit our project page. We also invite you to our Updates page.

The features deployed already and the table of contents that's currently under development


How to enable the improvements

Global preferences
  • It is possible to opt-in individually in the appearance tab within the preferences by unchecking the "Use Legacy Vector" box. (It has to be empty.) Also, it is possible to opt-in on all wikis using the global preferences.
  • If you think this would be good as a default for all readers and editors of this wiki, feel free to start a conversation with the community and contact me.
  • On wikis where the changes are visible by default for all, logged-in users can always opt-out to the Legacy Vector. There is an easily accessible link in the sidebar of the new Vector.

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You can read the pages of the project, check our FAQ, write on the project talk page, and join an online meeting with us (27 January (Thursday), 15:00 UTC).

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Thank you!!

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Web team, SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 22:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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