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Bethany Chobanian Lang 3:26 pm on March 21, 2022
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Performance Chat Agenda: 22 March 2022

Here is the agenda for this week’s performance team meeting scheduled for March 22, 2022, at 16:00 UTC.

NOTE: Because the United States changed to Daylight Saving Time on Sunday, March 14, but UTC has not yet changed, this week and next week’s meeting are one hour later than usual if you are in the United States.

This meeting happens in the #performance channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #meeting, #performance, #performance-chat

Bethany Chobanian Lang 5:34 pm on March 15, 2022
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Performance team meeting summary 15 March 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Announcements

@shetheliving

  • Meeting time change
    • Traditionally coreCore Core is the set of software required to run WordPress. The Core Development Team builds WordPress. meetings shift to accommodate for DST
    • We will adjust our meeting to its original time of 16:00 UTC after DST goes into effect worldwide on Sunday, March 25
  • Support representatives for Performance Lab plugin forum
    • @shetheliving (Google pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party support lead), @jamesosborne (who works on support for Google plugins), and @mitogh (one of the technical leads on the project for 10up) will be monitoring the support forumSupport Forum WordPress Support Forums is a place to go for help and conversations around using WordPress. Also the place to go to report issues that are caused by errors with the WordPress code and implementations. and replying to topics
    • We’re always looking for help, so if you’re interested in being designated as a plugin support representative, please reach out to Bethany

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • @furi3r: Interesting conversation in https://github.com/WordPress/performance/issues/92#issuecomment-1067312175.
    • @flixos90: Would like some more thoughts here. Like the idea of pointing out a problem where relevant, but concerned that there’s a lack of actionable guidance here. Three options here:
      1. Merge it as is regardless of the concerns
      2. Merge it as experimental for now while addressing the concerns for a follow-up release
      3. Delay merging until the concerns have been addressed
    • @furi3r: Intention was that this would be used by hosting companies and all of them have guides on how to tackle the problem. By default, we’re pointing to https://wordpress.org/support/article/optimization/.
    • @flixos90: Fair point, but we should also have some sort of useful default
    • @spacedmonkey: With white screen of death protection, we added a filterFilter Filters are one of the two types of Hooks https://codex.wordpress.org/Plugin_API/Hooks. They provide a way for functions to modify data of other functions. They are the counterpart to Actions. Unlike Actions, filters are meant to work in an isolated manner, and should never have side effects such as affecting global variables and output. to enable hosting companies to link off to resources to help. I think this issue is the same. Handling messaging and resolving this, is for the hosting company, IMO.
    • @flixos90: We also included a default way for the user to fix the problem, though, which is missing more detail
    • @spacedmonkey: Agreed that once this goes into core, we need a solution. But for now, we don’t need one in the plugin, as everything in it is experimental.
    • @flixos90: “Experimental” has some nuance; some modules are days away from a feature proposal, others are more recent and earlier in exploration.
    • @tweetythierry: The definition of “experimental” has come up enough that we should document and define it.
    • Vote on a decision here by Friday, March 19 at 5pm UTC

Feedback requested

Measurement

@wp-source @josephscott

GitHub project

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

  • @flixos90: We now have plugin assets (banner and icon) in Performance Lab: Branding #144; just opened https://github.com/WordPress/performance/pull/231 to add to the repo and will deployDeploy Launching code from a local development environment to the production web server, so that it's available to visitors. to wordpress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/ in the next release. Merged a few PRs in the last few days, including a bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. fix. Ready to enable branchbranch A directory in Subversion. WordPress uses branches to store the latest development code for each major release (3.9, 4.0, etc.). Branches are then updated with code for any minor releases of that branch. Sometimes, a major version of WordPress and its minor versions are collectively referred to as a "branch", such as "the 4.0 branch". auto-deletion in #209 after chat. With all these enhancementenhancement Enhancements are simple improvements to WordPress, such as the addition of a hook, a new feature, or an improvement to an existing feature. and fixes, proposing (and confirmed with team) that we will ship our next betaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. release next Monday, March 21, two weeks after the first release. We only have a few issues and PRs in the milestone, which we can probably merge this week. If you have concerns, please comment on Prepare 1.0.0-beta.2 release #213.

Feedback requested

Open Floor

  • @jeffpaul: Are there any core patches (e.g., new hook in media library) that would be helpful to get into WP 6.0 to benefit this feature pluginFeature Plugin A plugin that was created with the intention of eventually being proposed for inclusion in WordPress Core. See Features as Plugins. work ahead of whatever future feature merge (e.g., in WP 6.1)?  I want to make sure we get to those things before WP 6.0 Beta 1 on April 12th.
    • @flixos90: If you’ve been working on one of the enhancements or want to work on something where you’re limited e.g. by lack of core filters or actions, now it’s the time to flag those problems
    • @pbearne: Here’s one: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/55347
  • @craigfrancis: Can someone do a quick check on my very basic PHPPHP The web scripting language in which WordPress is primarily architected. WordPress requires PHP 5.6.20 or higher perf test for #52506 at https://wpdb.eiv.dev/ (press the “001” button to see the PHP code for the first test)? I appreciate it does not account for TurboBoost, CPU temperature changes, or other processes on this VM or others, etc… I’m just wondering if this is “good enough” to check the patch isn’t likely to cause problems.
  • @pbearne: Got an offer from Tugboat for previews of core patches here; will bring up in dev chat and get more info

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

Bethany Chobanian Lang 11:42 am on March 14, 2022
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Performance Chat Agenda: 15 March 2022

Here is the agenda for this week’s performance team meeting scheduled for March 15, 2022, at 16:00 UTC.

NOTE: Because the United States changed to Daylight Saving Time on Sunday, March 14, but UTC has not yet changed, this week and next week’s meeting are one hour later than usual if you are in the United States.

This meeting happens in the #performance channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #meeting, #performance, #performance-chat

Bethany Chobanian Lang 5:29 pm on March 8, 2022
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Performance team meeting summary 8 March 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Announcements

@shetheliving

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • @furi3r: https://github.com/WordPress/performance/pull/124 has been pending for awhile and can be merged

Feedback requested

Measurement

@wp-source @josephscott

GitHub project

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Open Floor

  • @mitogh: Flagging #209 Consider auto-deleting head branches after PRs are merged if folks have opinions about the approach
    • @flixos90: Makes sense after we’ve protected the branches that shouldn’t get deleted (trunk and release/*
  • @josklever: Had an issue where some images couldn’t be loaded on my WP dashboard and it was caused by a widgetWidget A WordPress Widget is a small block that performs a specific function. You can add these widgets in sidebars also known as widget-ready areas on your web page. WordPress widgets were originally created to provide a simple and easy-to-use way of giving design and structure control of the WordPress theme to the user. that was disabled in the screen options. It appears that all the widgets are loaded even if disabled. Would this be a performance improvement? Or is there a good reason to load resources for disabled widgets?
    • @adamsilverstein: Sounds like a core bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority., but don’t see a Trac ticket for it
  • @lu: Are we considering converting animated GIFs to MP4, similar to https://github.com/GoogleForCreators/web-stories-wp/issues/7232? Recently had to do this as the animated GIF size was huge compared to compressed/optimized video.
    • @spacedmonkey: Agreed that there are massive performance and file size wins there, but in Web Stories we converted GIF to MP4 using JSJS JavaScript, a web scripting language typically executed in the browser. Often used for advanced user interfaces and behaviors. in browser, which unfortunately won’t work in many WP contexts
    • @adamsilverstein: Could potentially provide a browser-based approach in core if server support is lacking
    • @andronocean: Would be concerned about server resource usage with larger GIFs or budget hosts
    • @gagan0123: If sever support is lacking, someone will have to do it manually rather than by CLICLI Command Line Interface. Terminal (Bash) in Mac, Command Prompt in Windows, or WP-CLI for WordPress. or cron job
    • @spacedmonkey: We used an ffmpeg library which requires array buffering, which isn’t available in older browsers and requires isolation of the page, meaning that images and scripts could not be hotlinked
    • @swisspidy: It’s doable, but there could be conflicts
  • @westonruter: Opened #220 Add Site Health test for full page caching (advanced cache)

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary
Bethany Chobanian Lang 1:04 pm on March 7, 2022
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Performance Chat Agenda: 8 March 2022

Here is the agenda for this week’s performance team meeting scheduled for March 8, 2022, at 16:00 UTC.

This meeting happens in the #performance channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #meeting, #performance, #performance-chat

Bethany Chobanian Lang 8:53 pm on March 1, 2022
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Performance team meeting summary 1 March 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

NOTE: The initial pluginPlugin A plugin is a piece of software containing a group of functions that can be added to a WordPress website. They can extend functionality or add new features to your WordPress websites. WordPress plugins are written in the PHP programming language and integrate seamlessly with WordPress. These can be free in the WordPress.org Plugin Directory https://wordpress.org/plugins/ or can be cost-based plugin from a third-party release, 1.0.0-beta.1, will take place on Monday, March 7, 2022, at 19:00 UTC. We will hold a release party chat in the #performance SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/. channel at that time and all are welcome! See the Infrastructure section below for more details on the release.

Focus group updates

Announcements

@shetheliving

  • Database optimization focus area
    • Want to reassess the interest for this as a focus group
    • Please re-vote on the focus group spreadsheet here by adding/removing your WP.org username from the groups that you want to work on in Column D, Contributors wordpress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/ username
    • Please only enter your name on two or fewer groups. If you’ve already voted and want to revise, remove your name from other areas.
    • We’ll reassess focus groups based on updated votes next week

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in Slack
  • @flixos90: https://github.com/WordPress/performance/pull/136 could use additional reviews as it’s planned for the initial release. @furi3r planning to review feedback this week.

Feedback requested

Measurement

@wp-source @josephscott

GitHub project

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • No updates

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Open Floor

  • @flixos90: Had a conversation with @spacedmonkey about if we should have a rule that two people have to approve all PRs. Been assuming that we should be aiming for two people approving each PR, though not a hard and fast rule. Open to thoughts.
    • @gagan0123: Two pair of eyes are always better than one; speed impact is minimal but quality of code is significantly better
    • @spacedmonkey: If we can enforce this on GitHub, let’s go for it (with no self-reviews)
  • @shetheliving: Seeking feedback on new designs shared in Performance Lab: Branding #144

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance-chat, #summary

Bethany Chobanian Lang 4:06 pm on February 28, 2022
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Performance Chat Agenda: 1 March 2022

Here is the agenda for this week’s performance team meeting scheduled for March 1, 2022, at 16:00 UTC.

This meeting happens in the #performance channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #meeting, #performance, #performance-chat

Bethany Chobanian Lang 5:37 pm on February 22, 2022
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Performance team meeting summary 22 February 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Announcements

@shetheliving

  • Database optimization focus area
    • Want to reassess the interest for this as a focus group
    • Please re-vote on the focus group spreadsheet here by adding/removing your WP.org username from the groups that you want to work on in Column D, Contributors wordpress.orgWordPress.org The community site where WordPress code is created and shared by the users. This is where you can download the source code for WordPress core, plugins and themes as well as the central location for community conversations and organization. https://wordpress.org/ username
    • Please only enter your name on two or fewer groups. If you’ve already voted and want to revise, remove your name from other areas.

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

N/A

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking 1-2 POCs for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • No updates

Feedback requested

Measurement

@wp-source @josephscott

GitHub project

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

  • @sergiomdgomes: Continued discussion around embeds and how we could avoid the performance impact some of the larger ones, like YouTube, through façades or other approaches in the context of blocks; welcome thoughts and feedback

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

  • @eclarke1: Vote is still open for Prepare initial release #133 on whether we’re okay shipping the WebP module in its current version where it no longer generates JPEG images, or whether we only want to ship it once it generates both JPEG and WebP images as intended. Vote here and leave a comment on why you think we should/should not release as-is. Automate @since tags generation using the n.e.x.t placeholders #90 has been merged and @kirtan95 is working on Define default module activation (onboarding) #61 for the betaBeta A pre-release of software that is given out to a large group of users to trial under real conditions. Beta versions have gone through alpha testing in-house and are generally fairly close in look, feel and function to the final product; however, design changes often occur as part of the process. release.
  • @mitogh: Should we introduce composer and namespacing before the release to prevent naming conflicts? We do use prefix but it seems like a workaround and not a long-term solution.
    • @flixos90: No because that’s not established in core.
    • @mitogh: Agreed, but the majority of the code will change when transitioned into core anyway.
    • @flixos90: Yes, but will be easier to migrate and review if we stick to core conventions as much as possible.
  • @kirtan95: Need review on #177 Run phpcbf and phpcs before commit; @dainemawer will take a look.

Feedback requested

Open Floor

  • @pbearne: Suggest that we work on taking care of some low-hanging fruit outside of the main focus areas
    • @tweetythierry: A prioritization exercise of those items would be helpful
    • @flixos90: Always okay to bring those up here and ask for feedback, but be sure that we’re paying the most attention to focus area items to keep them moving, since we decided that they were the most important. Let’s be conscious of the performance impact, especially.
    • @adamsilverstein: One idea would be to run a bugbug A bug is an error or unexpected result. Performance improvements, code optimization, and are considered enhancements, not defects. After feature freeze, only bugs are dealt with, with regressions (adverse changes from the previous version) being the highest priority. scrub for existing TracTrac An open source project by Edgewall Software that serves as a bug tracker and project management tool for WordPress. issues tagged with performance as an ongoing effort

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary

Bethany Chobanian Lang 4:07 pm on February 21, 2022
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Performance Chat Agenda: 22 February 2022

Here is the agenda for this week’s performance team meeting scheduled for February 22, 2022, at 16:00 UTC.

This meeting happens in the #performance channel. To join the meeting, you’ll need an account on the Making WordPress Slack.

#agenda, #meeting, #performance, #performance-chat

Bethany Chobanian Lang 5:59 pm on February 15, 2022
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Performance team meeting summary 15 February 2022

Meeting agenda here and the full chat log is available beginning here on Slack.

Focus group updates

Announcements

@shetheliving

  • Epic and Overview labels in GitHubGitHub GitHub is a website that offers online implementation of git repositories that can can easily be shared, copied and modified by other developers. Public repositories are free to host, private repositories require a paid subscription. GitHub introduced the concept of the ‘pull request’ where code changes done in branches by contributors can be reviewed and discussed before being merged be the repository owner. https://github.com/
    • Overview = Summary of the entire project, including epics, documentation, and other details
    • Epic = The “parent” issue for a broader task within a project, e.g. https://github.com/WordPress/performance/issues/22
    • @clarkeemily will work on setting up [Type] Overview issues for each focus area that POCs can update as needed

Images

@adamsilverstein @mikeschroder

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Object Cache

@tillkruess @spacedmonkey

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Site Health

@audrasjb

GitHub project

  • We’re seeking an additional POC for this group; if you’re interested, please comment here or pingPing The act of sending a very small amount of data to an end point. Ping is used in computer science to illicit a response from a target server to test it’s connection. Ping is also a term used by Slack users to @ someone or send them a direct message (DM). Users might say something along the lines of “Ping me when the meeting starts.” in SlackSlack Slack is a Collaborative Group Chat Platform https://slack.com/. The WordPress community has its own Slack Channel at https://make.wordpress.org/chat/.
  • @audrasjb offline
  • @furi3r: Several issues still needing discussion/review (see below)

Feedback requested

Measurement

@wp-source @josephscott

GitHub project

Feedback requested

JavaScriptJavaScript JavaScript or JS is an object-oriented computer programming language commonly used to create interactive effects within web browsers. WordPress makes extensive use of JS for a better user experience. While PHP is executed on the server, JS executes within a user’s browser. https://www.javascript.com/.

@aristath @sergiomdgomes

GitHub project

Feedback requested

Infrastructure

@flixos90

GitHub project

  • @flixos90: Need to make a decision for Prepare initial release #133 on whether we’re okay shipping the WebP module in its current version where it no longer generates JPEG images, or whether we only want to ship it once it generates both JPEG and WebP images as intended. Vote here and leave a comment on why you think we should/should not release as-is.

Feedback requested

Open Floor

  • @wp-source: Feel a lack of alignment on the scope of the plugin. Is it the plugin’s role to measure things like other tools already do?
    • @flixos90: Don’t think we should build measurement tools ourselves where we can already use existing ones. Measurement is a bit decoupled from the plugin, but if there’s a certain measurement feature that makes sense in plugin form, it could definitely go into the plugin. A lot of features may be built in other forms though, e.g. CI workflow, Docker images, etc.
  • @kirtan95: Should we use husky to run phpcs/phpcbf on post commit hook?

Help wanted

#core-js, #core-media, #performance, #performance-chat, #summary