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court cases?

HI! I want to write about this court case called McNally vs Regina, because it was very influential on sex and consent law surrounding trans people. However, I am not sure the Wikipedia customs about court cases! Many really interesting cases don't have pages. What exactly makes a case notable? Thank you so much! Heromagnus1 (talk) 23:05, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

As far as I am aware, there's no specific notability guideline for court cases, so you'd be going off the general notability guideline, which amounts to having multiple non-routine, in-depth, independent sources with editorial oversight and identifiable authors on the case itself. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 23:12, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Heromagnus1 If the case has been the subject of discussion in mainstream news, law journals, or books by reputable publishers (particularly academic textbooks), you might have sufficient sources for an article.

What case is it? Please give a more specific reference, "McNally v R" is too vague. We might be able to do a quick source search and give you more specific advice. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:31, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

@Heromagnus1: This would appear to be R v McNally [2013] EWCA Crim 1051. A quick Google search found a few mentions in journals and news sources. It appears to have been one of the initial three cases in the UK which set precedence for "gender fraud". I've certainly seen articles for less important cases. I'm not prepared to thoroughly investigate sources, but my inclination is that the subject would pass notability. Please be very mindful of the biographies of living persons policy on this subject. – Reidgreg (talk) 21:43, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you all so much!! I really appreciate your support and I'll go ahead and start making the page. Heromagnus1 (talk) 19:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Review article

Please review https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy 37.225.76.109 (talk) 12:59, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! Can you please explain what you mean? — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 13:36, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Toy is an existing B-class article which you have not edited. What, specifically, did you have in mind? David notMD (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD: Correction, Toy is C-class. --The Tips of Apmh 14:18, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

C-class for Core, B-class for WikiProject Toys David notMD (talk) 14:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

I submitted a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests for someone to review the article and remove the {{tone}} tag. GoingBatty (talk) 14:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Oh, nevermind, you're right. --The Tips of Apmh 14:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I hoped someone would notice and remove tank as a toy example, especially given current world situation. 37.225.76.109 (talk) 19:06, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Right,
1. Could you perhaps have said that in your opening question? Being clear is important
2. Wikipedia is not censored. Toy tanks exist. They are notable. Notability is not temporary. There is no reason to remove them from the Toy article that fits with Wikipedia's current guidelines. casualdejekyll 22:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

We did not have toy guns in the house. I came home one day to find my daughter and friends running around the yard with Barbie dolls bent at the waist so that they were holding the torso and 'shooting' each other with the legs. David notMD (talk) 15:13, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Sounds like buying your daughter some toy guns is in order. (Not that I'm commenting on your parenting or anything, for all I know this story probably happened years and years ago) casualdejekyll 17:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Heck, we used random sticks - or even our fingers - as guns. The original poster's request to remove the image of the toy tank is as ridiculous as a request to remove the picture of teddy bears because people have been mauled by bears. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 18:32, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Tanks have no legitimate uses. 37.225.76.109 (talk) 11:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Link a draft page to WikiData

Hello! I'm trying to add a wikidata infobox to my draft on Marianne Lederer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Marianne_Lederer). I now the wikidata exist with the number Q15438360 (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15438360#sitelinks-wikipedia), but I cannot seem to insert it. I've read these help pages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikidata and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_person/Wikidata but I cannot figure out how to do this in the draft. Does the draft have to be published before I can do it? I work in the visual editor and have tried in source editing too Thank you! Paristolken (talk) 14:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata will not normally link to Draft Articles, as they are not part of the encyclopaedia, and may never be. ColinFine (talk) 15:51, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. I suspected that, but still wanted to give it a try Paristolken (talk) 21:33, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Images which include an advertisement for the photographer watermarked on them

This picture has a watermark on it that advertises the photographer and his website. I didn't delete it because it IS a really great picture, but I'm asking if that watermark is an acceptable element when it's on the Venice article. Alternately, would it be permissible to crop that top 3% of the photo and use that one instead? Fred Zepelin (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Other approaches would be to leave the Commons version as it is, but to display it in articles with the top 3% cropped; and to edit the Commons version to remove the watermark (which in this particular case would be very easy). Maproom (talk) 17:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@Maproom: Thanks for the reply. How do I display in articles with the top cropped? I can't find any help page on that. Fred Zepelin (talk) 18:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

I had difficulty finding comprehensible help on it, and created (by trial and error) this page with some working examples. Maproom (talk) 08:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Never mind, someone else already took care of the ad. Wow! Fred Zepelin (talk) 00:15, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Also, Commons has a crop tool, linked from every image page. (Although you might have to tinker with your settings first to get it to show up?) DS (talk) 17:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Yep, enable it at c:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 17:15, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

• I have nominated the photo for deletion on Commons, because I cannot see any evidence for the uploader’s claim of CC-BY-SA. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 17:29, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

An article with few sources and links

local political groups / Few sources and links

Hello, I'm new to Wikipedia and would like to publish an article about a small youth politics group in my local area. The problem is that the only sources that I have are from school newspapers (and I am not sure are considered reputable sources of information) which are all physical copies and nothing digital I can link to as my source. Is there any way I can still publish an article like this? Would I have to upload the physical copies too somewhere? Or should I contact my local news station and convince them to publish articles about this ? thank you Cederwoodandroses (talk) 18:19, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

@Cederwoodandroses: Are you connected or affiliated with the group in any way? — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 18:22, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes I think so. All I do is publish their statements in my school newspaper and write columns about them but that's it. Cederwoodandroses (talk) 18:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Cederwoodandroses (ec) Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Sources do not need to be anywhere online so that is not an issue. However, I regret to say that I don't think the group that you mention would merit a Wikipedia article at this time. It must receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have a reputation of fact checking and editorial control- that sounds unlikely for a school newspaper. I would also suggest that you review the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization to see if this group meets it- though just based on what you say here, I don't think it would. However, I would encourage you to edit in other areas of the encyclopedia. 331dot (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Alright thank you so much. I will review this. Cederwoodandroses (talk) 18:30, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

• For future reference 331dot, school newspapers vary greatly in quality and scope. The student newspaper at my alma mater was essentially a noticeboard for various school-related information ("the fencing club will meet at 10 on Thursday", "don’t forget to renew your student badge before September 20", etc.), with the occasional humorous / polemic opinion pieces from the "editors"; I suppose this is the standard for most student newspaper, and obviously unacceptable for almost any Wikipedia claim. On the other hand, the Mancunion is about as serious as the average local UK newspaper (or at least used to be a decade or so ago). (Here, the OP is apparently able to publish whatever they like, so it is probably not one of the highest-quality newspapers.) Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

• Tigraan Thank you; I am aware that school newspapers can possibly have the rigor needed to be used as source(for example the The Harvard Crimson is pretty good), but I got the sense that wasn't the case here. 331dot (talk) 10:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Switching from anonymous editing to an account?

I've been editing anonymously for a while, and I would like to create an account. Is there anything I need to do first, or do I just create it? 99.197.202.188 (talk) 03:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Really the only thing you'd need to do is read WP:Username policy, but other than that you can just create it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 03:52, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

You should also note that by creating an account you will be much more anonymous (unless you use your real name) than editing from an IP address, which enables anyone to trace your location.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:10, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I created the account. --Wikipedian who edited with an IP for a while (talk) 04:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Company page getting deleted

Hi wiki community. I am trying to create a page for a company called Resident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Resident_(company)_(2)) but it is getting deleted. I have added reliable sources as reference like forbes, INC, furniture today etc. still article getting rejected. Please advise. Siddhesht (talk) 05:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Siddhesht your draft was rejected by an AfC reviewer meaning they have deemed it unsuitable for inclusion and it should not be resubmitted. They left comments on the page regarding issues with the draft (namely not meeting WP:NCORP and having been previously deleted). Please take a look at the pages they linked and reach out to them for specific assistance. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 06:31, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Since it appears you created two copies of your draft, for clarity I am referring to page Draft:Resident (company) (2). -Liance^{talk/contribs} 06:32, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

No English material to reference

I'm trying to publish an article about a digital wallet service in Mongolia. As i've mentioned above the app is for Mongolians and there's next to no source to refer to in English. My article was declined on the ground of references. What should i do? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Most_Money_(Digital_wallet) Bsquizer (talk) 07:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for stating (on your user page) that you're being paid to write this, Bsquizer. You're welcome to cite sources in Mongolian, or indeed other languages, if they're reliable. Your problem then will be waiting for a reviewer who can read Mongolian well enough to determine (i) whether the sources say what they're cited as saying, and (ii) whether the sources are reliable. -- Hoary (talk) 07:30, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Removing orphan tag

How to remove orphan tag when the page already has a number of linked articles and references?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Electricity_Market_Operator_of_the_Philippines Iemop.djs (talk) 07:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

The first thing you need to do, Iemop.djs, is to link to it from other articles. (Currently no article links to it.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:32, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Click on the left where it says "What links here" to see the link that Hoary posted above. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 07:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Where to get proper reference links/etc.

Hi, my name is Matt Barachko. I'm the lead singer of the band, The UV Sound, and I wanted to try and publish a Wikipedia page so that our Google search results appear more cleanly to users. The only problem is that we have no articles written about us (hopefully we will someday), so I'm trying to figure out ways that I can have more valid sources to use so that my article on our band has a better chance at becoming published. I understand we would probably have to have more publicity first but there usually seems to be walkarounds to these sorts of things. Thank you for any help! Theuvsound (talk) 07:27, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Theuvsound, the band must demonstrably satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (music) before an article can be created. There is no workaround, walkaround, or surfboardaround. (And no, Wikipedia's gatekeepers do not take baksheesh.) I do understand that there's only a tenuous relationship between (A) musical noteworthiness/value/interest/originality and (B) musical Wikipedia-defined-"notability", but that's the way it is here. -- Hoary (talk) 07:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Theuvsound. There are no "walkarounds". None. In order to be eligible for a Wikipedia article, a band must be the subject of significant coverage in independent,credible sources. Thanks for being frank but these standards are mandatory. Cullen328 (talk) 08:01, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Theuvsound Please note that you will need to change your username to be more individualistic. Please do this at Special:GlobalRenameRequest. To be frank, and I apologize, Wikipedia has no interest in aiding search results for your band. Our only interest is in summarizing independent reliable sources that have significant coverage of your band, showing how it is notable as defined by Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 11:41, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Theuvsound: What you wrote: "and I wanted to try and publish a Wikipedia page so that our Google search results appear more cleanly to users" is a blatant WP:PROMOTION, one of Things Wikipedia is not. --CiaPan (talk) 12:01, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Misak Terzibasiyan

FYI

 – added header --Maresa63 ^Talk 10:13, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Misak Terzibasiyan

Hello, i have a question about the page [ Misak Terzibasiyan] . i edited this page before and now i saw an error regarding the external links.would you please guide me how can i remove this error?thank you in advance. Amir.mansour1370 (talk) 10:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC) Amir.mansour1370 (talk) 10:06, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

The external links must all conform to WP:EL policy. I suspect none of them do. Please remove those inappropriate links and then you can remove the notice.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

article about a living person

Contribute article

My article is ready. How to add to Wikipedia? Bonnstw (talk) 11:19, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Bonnstw I have added the appropriate information to allow you to submit the draft. 331dot (talk) 11:39, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

References

Hey can someone plz check this Draft: Priyanka Choudhary if it establish notability or not now Akb bhatia (talk) 12:18, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priyanka Choudhary (2nd nomination) still seems to apply. (This is hardly surprising, as the "delete" decision was made as recently as 16 February 2022.) -- Hoary (talk) 12:31, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hoary Hey I am unfamiliar with these terms as I am new can you please explain it clearly thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akb bhatia (talk • contribs)

In plain English, then: There are not enough in-depth, non-routine, independent news articles about Choudhary written by identifiable authors in outlets with competent editorial oversight that fact-checks, discloses, and retracts. There is no evidence this actor has significant and/or leading roles in multiple notable films, television series, etc. Your single-tract mind on this front heavily suggests you are an alternate account created specifically to evade sanctions or a block on another account (specifically, Shikagami03 (talk · contribs)). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 21:14, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Akb bhatia: What @Hoary is saying is "Not Now!" and also that there have already been two community discussions held about deleting this article which concluded with 'Delete'. There have also been so many attempts to create a page for this person - and it has been deleted four times now - that we have grown tired of them all. That page can now only be created with the approval of an administrator and that is unlikely to happen for the next couple of years. We would say to you and to those who would create this article that it is simply WP:TOOSOON. I am sorry to disappoint you. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

How do I request deletion of an orphaned non-free image?

Resolved

 – Someone already did it

Specifically File:CGP Grey stick figure.png. I removed the image in favour of his geometric logo icon, because free content is preferred. QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 12:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

NVM, someone already did it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by QuickQuokka (talk • contribs) 13:07, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

how do i talk to some one?

 Dogecoinsocrypto (talk) 15:11, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dogecoinsocrypto: It depends on what you need to talk about. Often, you can use their talk page (for example, yours is at User talk:Dogecoinsocrypto). If it's about a certain article, you can talk on that article's specific talk page (for United States, that'd be Talk:United States). — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 15:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Help with template

Can someone help me figure which template I should use for name changing of an article. Aka request a move. I don’t know what template I should use. BigRed606 (talk) 16:09, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@BigRed606: Welcome to the Teahouse. Perhaps you're thinking of {{subst:requested move}}? Of course, if it's controversial, you're also going to want to start a discussion on the article's talk page to see if there's consensus for such an action. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:22, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

References

 Courtesy link: Draft:The House of Charity

Hello! So I have been in the process of writing a Wikipedia page about this non-profit organization. My article was declined because of non-verifiable references, so my question today is when I'm writing about organizations, what references should I be looking for or using. I just used the non-profits website. Any guidance would be appreciated. (Also, this is my first wiki article) Hochouston (talk) 16:34, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

The issue is, notability. Notability is not the same as "important" or "meritorious" or "good". It's a function of media coverage - that is, the extent to which a topic has been noted. You can't show notability for [non-profit X] simply by telling us what [non-profit X] says about itself. Is there any media coverage of the non-profit? If yes, you cite that. If no... well, that's a strong indicator that it doesn't meet notability requirements. DS (talk) 17:01, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Hochouston: Welcome to the Teahouse. As DragonflySixtyseven explained, the issue is that you just used the non-profits [sic] website. Notability is demonstrated by good, reliable secondary sources. The charity's website is considered to be a primary source, which has more limited uses on Wikipedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Hochouston: Hi there! See also Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), Help:Your first article, and Wikipedia:External links (External links normally should not be placed in the body of an article.) GoingBatty (talk) 21:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Repost an edit

How can I repost an edit without rewriting it completely?

I’m in mobile. Glooper 2022 (talk) 16:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Glooper 2022! Welcome to the Teahouse!
What do you mean by "repost" an edit? Could you perhaps provide an example of what you want to do? casualdejekyll 17:43, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Glooper 2022: Assuming you meant to ask on how to retireve the content's of your (reverted) edit to Half-Life (series), you can use that page's page history (help about what all the links on the page history do) to retireve the Difference between your saved version and the version before that, which can be effectively used to retrieve your changes. You can then open the edit form for Half-Life (series) again, copying back your change, along with a citation to a reliable source. See WP:CITE for how. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:21, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Request for a reivew of Draft:checkra1n

a wiki Draft page has been created on the checkra1n jailbreak utility, it would be great if somebody could potentialy review this topic and give advice on where to improve it or even if you deem it ready, make it an official wikipedia artcile

i appreciate if you are unable to perform this task at the moment thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morgan11100 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Morgan11100: I would suggest adding more sources. The article has a single source which is a link to their own page. You will need sources that are indepentent of the article subject. --The Tips of Apmh 17:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

great thanks for the advice, after adding more soucres are you in authority to make the draft an official article Morgan11100 (talk) 18:15, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Morgan11100, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please understand that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. Hardly any information should be in a Wikipedia article unless it is found in such a reliable, independent source. You currently have two sources, one of which is not reliable (Wikis are generally user generated, so almost never regarded as reliable) and the other is not independent. When you have found several such indepedednt reliable sources, added them, and made sure that every single statement in the draft is corroborated by one of those sources, then you can submit the draft for review by pasting {{subst:submit}} at the top, and it will go onto a pile for a reviewer to get to it. Please see WP:YFA. ColinFine (talk) 19:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Morgan11100: Courtesy: Draft:Checkra1n. (Most) Teahouse Hosts are here to advise, but are not Reviewers. Listing supported devices and firmware does nothing of value nor notability to the draft - delete all. David notMD (talk) 20:17, 10 March 2022 (UTC) @Morgan11100: Hi there! See also Wikipedia:Notability (software) and Help:Your first article. GoingBatty (talk) 21:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Decision Education Foundation - Rejected but now ready for re-review?

I have a draft article on the Decision Education Foundation that was rejected. It can be found at: [[1]]

I've added citations from numerous books and also specified where there was a potential conflict since an author of one of the independent studies was also involved with Decision Education Foundation. After removing an irrelevant section and cleaning up duplicate citations, I believe the article should meet Wikipedia standards but don't want to assume anything. Is there any penalty for resubmitting the updated article? Or, if that's the wrong approach, can someone suggest how I should proceed to get it re-reviewed? I believe the foundation meets the notability standards and that there are sufficient well sourced citations to pass.

Please advise me

Potential conflict: I am employed by the Decision Education Foundation. This was disclosed in my original submission and shows up on my talk page.

Tonypray (talk) 17:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC) Tonypray (talk) 17:12, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Tonypray: Welcome to the Teahouse, and thanks for disclosing your relationship with the subject. By no means am I a reviewer, but if you haven't read Your first article, I strongly suggest you do so. You have a lot of external links in the body of the draft, which shouldn't be there (see WP:ELPOINTS, point 2). As someone affiliated with the subject, you also appear to have fallen into the trap of writing promotionally; for example, I don't see the encyclopedic value in letting readers know that the foundation was founded to improve the lives of young people by empowering them with effective decision skills, or that it also works to create awareness that decision competency is important to a well-rounded education (on par with literacy and numeracy). This is suitable for an ad, but for the draft to be considered a suitable encyclopedia article it should be written more neutrally. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the wonderful feedback! I was starting to think I was lost deep in the technical aspects of Wikipedia and would never see the sunrise. I'll be incorporating your suggestions immediately. Thanks again! Tonypray (talk) 17:42, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Tonypray, the main problem you will have in getting your draft accepted as an article will be in finding reliable independent published sources with in-depth discussion of the subject. I see you have cited 18 sources, but the ones I've check either weren't independent of the subject, or lacked discussion of it. Another issue is the section titled "Citations" – it's not clear what it's there for, and I think you should delete it. And the External links is too long – you should keep the link to the subject's own web site and get rid of the others (or cite them as references, if appropriate). Maproom (talk) 19:10, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

wwe aftershock

wwe aftershock is a article that shouldnt exist. it is a smalll article so i redirect to wwe 2k TheSecondComing10 (talk) 18:54, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Reverted. The article (referenced) has been in existance 10+ years. If you are serious, nominatate it for deletion at AfD. David notMD (talk) 20:14, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Why is Twinkle menu now in big, black, bold letters???

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why is the Twinkle dropdown menu the title now in big, blak, bold lettering?

It fit in before, and looked like the "Article", "Talk", "Edit", "View history", and "More" buttons, but now it sticks out like a sore thumb.

I checked the Twinkle prefs, but no options. Please fix this. QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 20:00, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka: phab:T290280 and phab:T303487 are relevant. Not sure if or when it'll be resolved. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 20:04, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

In chatting on Discord, it seems a fix is in the works right now, just needs to be deployed. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 20:05, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Bsoyka: All good now 👍 QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 20:09, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka: IT's been fixed. See my post relating to this in WP:VPT. Remember, WP:ITSTHURSDAY. Things usually break on Thursday. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:17, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Short Film entry

 SachaLynchRobinson (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey, SachaLynchRobinson! Do you have a question? — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 20:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@SachaLynchRobinson: Welcome to the Teahouse! Are you asking about User:SachaLynchRobinson/sandbox/Fingers Crossed Film? If so, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Notability (films), Help:Your first article, and Wikipedia:External links (External links normally should not be placed in the body of an article.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoingBatty (talk • contribs) 22:03, March 10, 2022 (UTC)

How do I add text to the end of (my own) paragraph when replying on a talk page?

Yesterday I changed from Legacy Vector to Vector, though when I checked my prefs just now I see Monobook. Regardless, I can no longer type some characters at the end of a paragraph if I pause in my writing. This only happens if I hit "reply" to a post (which is new to me); if I just hit "edit" as I have been doing for years, WP is perfectly functional.

For example, if I'm typing, then decide to go back and change a word or fix a typo, I can no longer continue with the paragraph. Instead, I need to start a new paragraph, then hit backspace to join them together. Now I can't add anything to that paragraph, either at the end on in the middle.

Sometimes I can't add any letters, but other times it's just certain characters. Parentheses seem to be a particular problem: If I add a parenthesis, WP will insert it at the beginning of the paragraph instead of at the cursor.

I haven't explored further to narrow down what the bug is, but it's been more than once. Is it just me, or is this something in queue to be fixed? — kwami (talk) 21:18, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Kwamikagami. The "reply" function you are discussing is very new and may well have bugs. None of us have much experience using it yet. I suggest that Village pump - technical might be place where you are more likely to get an accurate answer. Cullen328 (talk) 21:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I thought it was just new to me. — kwami (talk) 21:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

There is some general discussion at WP:VPT in a section called "[Reply] now appearing after posts". Cullen328 (talk) 21:59, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from MilkYouInBucket

Moved to new section

 – — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 23:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Liz, Eggishorn, and EstrellaSuecia: or DannyS712: Can I open a case for something about forcing unblock on someone, on WP:ARB? If not, where? --MilkYouInBucket (talk) 23:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC) MilkYouInBucket (talk) 23:56, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@MilkYouInBucket: Why are we pinging seemingly random people, and what do you mean by forcing unblock on someone? — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 23:58, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

@Bsoyka: I did not ping you. Get out of this discussion now! --MilkYouInBucket (talk) 00:02, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Right, so anyone can actually help here. I'd like to help you out, but I have no clue what you're asking. Plus, it's at least strange to randomly ping four different people with little apparent reason. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 00:04, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@MilkYouInBucket Please chill, and don't be so aggressive to other editors. That's not the way to get assistance. What help do you need? Please be clearer with your questions. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@MilkYouInBucket: Please don't remove other users' comments without an actual explanation. And no, You are not involved: Shut up! doesn't count, nor is it very kind. Do you have a specific question we can help answer? — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 00:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy note: The user was blocked. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 00:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Trolls on hols. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:23, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Riiid

•  Courtesy link: Draft:Riiid

trying to understand what needs to be done to get this page published. 162.84.172.62 (talk) 01:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP 162.84.172.62. Did you see the comment "Needs to be rewritten and scrubbed for press release-like tone. Primary editors are either UPE or Paid contributors." that was left by the reviewer AngusWOOF who declined the draft last November? Generally, this means that (1) the subject's notability is not clearly established per Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and (2) that the tone of the article is too promotional. The latter can probably be fixed by some rewriting per Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, but the notability issue can only be resolved by finding better reliable sourcing for the article and then basing the article primarily on what those sources are saying. Wikipedia isn't really interested in what the company has to say about itself; it's more interested in what WP:SECONDARY sources are saying about it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi! Welcome to the Teahouse!
@AngusWOOF declined the submission because it "needs to be rewritten and scrubbed for press release-like tone" and "is not adequately supported by reliable sources". The relevant policies and guidelines here are Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Reliable sources, as well as, of course, Your first article. I would also recommend having a brief glance at Wikipedia:Perennial sources to get an idea of the kinds of sources which are allowed, though a source does not need to be on that list to be used. casualdejekyll 01:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

How do I get my translation to main space?

I've translated an article from Mongolian to English. As the original Mongolian article was scarce in reference I did my best to provide some. BTW, I'm an employee at the company whose page I'm trying to translate. Here is the link to translation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bsquizer/Most_Money I've also tried to create a separate Article in English wiki but that didn't go well. It was declined twice as of now.  Bsquizer (talk) 02:00, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Bsquizer: Welcome to the Teahouse! For it to have any chance to become an article on the English Wikipedia, you'll have to add multiple independent published reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Most Money, in order to demonstrate that it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". If you haven't already done so, I suggest you read Help:Your first article. I also suggest you remove the table with the external links per WP:EL. When you're done, you could move the page to Draft:Most Money and then add {{subst:submit}} to the page to request it be reviewed. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Bsquizer. You might also want to look at WP:TRANSLATE and WP:HOWTRANS to make sure you properly attribute any of the content you've translated from Mongolian Wikipedia to English Wikipedia. In addition, if you know who c:User:Badmaa G might be, please ask them to check their Commons user talk page because there are some issues with the files they uploaded that need to be resolved in order to avoid them being deleted from Commons. You might want to also take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), Wikipedia:Ownership of content, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#Law of unintended consequences and Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#Wikipedias in other languages and try to explain them to your employer because they might not understand what a Wikipedia article is intended to be and the policies and guidelines for Mongolian Wikipedia might not be the same as English Wikipedia or they might not be applied as vigorously. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@GoingBatty and @Marchjuly, Thank you for the suggestions. I do know Badmaa G. Bsquizer (talk) 05:47, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

How to get a "marked up copy" of an article's references

How can I get a "marked up copy" of an article's references. It would be useful when analysing their value (especially for an AfD) to have a sandbox copy of them, complete with clickable links, etc. and other functions available when viewing the rendered results of the {{reflist}} template. It could act as a valuable scratch pad in grouping them, describing, then deleting them, and invoking them individually when expressing an opinion on them.

I did try searching the Teahouse archives, and I did try copying the entire article into a sandbox, then replacing the template with {{subst:reflist}}. Can't blame me for trying, but that replaces it with the code executed dynamically to produce the result I'm after.

So is there a way to collect, like {{reflist}} does, an ordered list without duplicates of the references in an article, as they would be marked up for rendering in the typical ==References== section?  _signed, Willondon (talk) 03:31, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Willondon: Welcome to the Teahouse! Have you tried using User:DannyS712/SATG to generate a source assess table? GoingBatty (talk) 03:46, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll look more into that after a good night's sleep, but it looks exactly like what I need. Thank you so much for the pointer. Cheers. _signed, Willondon (talk) 04:48, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Question about Wikipedia words in Google searches

Hello, I noticed that when I search for a page like Principia College in Google, on the right of the screen part of the first paragraph from Wikipedia will show up on Google search results. If the current first paragraph has been updated, is there a way to reset the cache or something like that, so the current version of the Wikipedia page shows up on Google searches? Thanks Archivingperson (talk) 04:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello. Changes made on Wikipedia are not immediately reflected on Google. Google will take its own specfic time to carry them out. Kpddg ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:02, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Archivingperson. To elaborate a bit on the above, the content of and images in a Google Knowledge Graph is 100% the responsibility of Google and zero percent the responsibility of Wikipedia. Wikipedia freely licences its content for re-use and other websites can re-use our content as they see fit, as long as they attribute the content to the Wikipedia editors who created it. If you have complaints, take them to Google. Improving a Wikipedia article often (but not always) results in an improvement of the knowledge graph. But again, that is Google's responsibility, not ours. Cullen328 (talk) 06:23, 11 March 2022 (UTC)4

Thank you all for your answers, appreciate it! Archivingperson (talk) 16:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Blockquote Error

Hi, has anyone experienced this type of error where you try to blockquote but when you publish it, it looks like it does not have a blockquote. Can someone please help me?

Meiwuzhang (talk) 04:55, 11 March 2022 (UTC)Meiwuzhang

@Meiwuzhang: Are you referring to the <blockquote>...</blockquote> tags you're using on Draft:Open: A Boy's Wayang Adventure? The draft looks like it has a pair of blockquotes to me. Have you tried a null edit and purging your browser cache? If that doesn't work, could you please elaborate on what are you seeing, and what are you expecting? GoingBatty (talk) 06:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Song of Lawino, Poem by Okot p'Bitek

I would like to add the following two references to the Wikipedia article entitled "Song of Lawino' Please tell me how. Donna Pido

Pido, Donna. “Lawino is Alive and Well” Jahazi, Nairobi, October, 2007. pp 44-46 Pido, Odoch. “Is Lawino Dead?” Jahazi, Nairobi, October 2007. pp 38-43 154.70.26.12 (talk) 06:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! See WP:EASYREFBEGIN, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 06:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Pripyat display error

The infobox for the Pripyat article is broken on mobile, appearing as normal text instead of an infobox. It appears fine on PC. I don’t have enough wiki knowledge to know what the issue is so I would like to bring this to the attention of someone more experienced who can hopefully do a quick fix. Thanks 72.86.45.194 (talk) 07:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

It looks normal to me, using Android and Chrome. Have you tried reloading the page? Maproom (talk) 08:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this issue! It looks okay to me, but if it's still displaying weirdly for you, let us know, and perhaps someone else will be able to replicate the issue. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Reads like an advertisement? how to fix it

I have submitted my article for review twice. First time it was declined on the basis of insufficient notability, second time around there was additional reads like an advertisement warning. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm at my wits end. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Most_Money_(Digital_wallet) here's the link for the draft. Any, pointers? Bsquizer (talk) 07:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Bsquizer, these are two separate issues. Let's consider notability first. You need to provide references that demonstrate that it passes the corportation notability standard. The current ones don't look very good to me—this is just an ad, without any author or indication it was published under news.mn's editorial process. It makes me distrust that news.mn as a source. This is an interview, which likely doesn't count. This is too short to count as significant coverage. And this isn't independent secondary coverage. So you have zero qualifying sources, when you need two at bare minimum.

On advertisement, the article isn't too bad imo. So focus on getting coverage. What's Mongolia's paper of record? Have they published reported profiles of the company or similar? If so, add those. If there's nothing like that, then this topic isn't ready for a page yet, and no amount of editing can change that. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Sdkb Thank you for the input. Bsquizer (talk) 09:45, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

How to insert straight quotation marks in math formulas?

I'm working on replacing some low-quality images of formulas in applicative universal grammar (example) with wiki markup. However, the MathML renderer doesn't seem to want to straight double quotes. Help:Displaying a formula doesn't say anything about quotation marks. I've tried the following methods, but they all give me a syntax error:

• \"
• putting " inside \normaltext{} instead of \text{}
• \char13
• \textquotedbl
• \textquotesingle \textquotesingle

Using two single quotes sort of works, but they appear as closing quotes and makes the output kind of ugly:

${\dfrac {\text{''my'' :: OTT ''friend'' :: T}}{\text{p q :: y}}}$

{{math}} displays double quotes just fine, but the output isn't as good as the MathML renderer because some of the text touches the vinculum:

"my" :: OTT   "friend" :: T/p q :: y

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Ixfd64 (talk) 08:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ixfd64, hmm, that's rather above my pay grade haha, but Help talk:Displaying a formula has 260 watchers, so I'd try asking there and see if anyone knows how to help. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I posted a question there a while ago but never got a response. But I'll cross-post this there just in case. Ixfd64 (talk) 18:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Need your help to write a Wikipedia page.

I need your help in writing an article for a company and wanted to how to write an article for Wikipedia page. 2409:4040:D83:29DA:0:0:4D48:F201 (talk) 08:21, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP. See Help:Your first article for how to write an article. When writing an article for a company you work for, you are a paid editor and are responsible for abiding by the relevant guidance. Please note that companies that do not meet the relevant notability guideline cannot have articles. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:24, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Work on collecting references first. If there are not reliable source references independent of the company, i.e., not the company publishing content about itself, then your project has no chance of success. David notMD (talk) 11:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

My page is not publishing

Graduate Engineering Students Welfare Association Ce1205600022 (talk) 08:25, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ce1205600022, I take it you're referring to Draft:Graduate Engineering Students Welfare Association Uttar Pradesh. That draft is very far from being acceptable. It contains no sources at all. Is this a topic that's been covered in the media that's notable for an encyclopedia? If not, it shouldn't be an article. If yes, please read through Help:Your first article and follow the advice there. Once you've done that, add {{subst:Submit}} to the top of the draft and a reviewer will come by in due time. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 08:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I fixed stuff, but right now, the only ref is the assoociation's website. Are there newspapers or e-news sites independent of GESWA that have written about it? If not, there is no potential for this to be an article. David notMD (talk) 12:04, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The draft was deleted by an Administrator as being promotional. The main reason was that the only ref was that of the organization, so the draft was in effect what the organization was saying about itself. David notMD (talk) 13:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Photograph of a Victorian Artist

I would like to upload this. It is of a painter who died in 1853. It is possibly from a from a magazine that no longer exists. Would this be available as Free Use? BFP1 (talk) 13:17, 11 March 2022 (UTC) BFP1 (talk) 13:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC) BFP1 (talk) 13:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@BFP1 Welcome to the Teahouse. For a magazine that old, you'd have no problem uploading it to Commons as its copyright will have expired long ago. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The photo is old but what if the magazine folded say 20y ago? BFP1 (talk) 14:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The relevant date is the date that issue was published. If that was before 1923, you can upload it. If after, it's complicated. Maproom (talk) 17:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@BFP1: Hi there! You could ask at c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright, and provide all the information you have about the image. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 01:22, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

can i have some tea?

 695LM (talk) 13:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@695LM Welcome back to the Teahouse. I've sent you some tea and some helpful links for getting started on your talk page. Pop back when you next need help or advice on editing Wikipedia. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Should I just move this section?

I am writing my MA dissertation about publications by art galleries and similar institutions. I would like to start helping to improve Wikipedia, and thought I would start with the exhibition catalogue page. It doesn't seem to have any references, and in my opinion could do with a bit of a re-write in general.

One problem is that the page covers both exhibition catalogues as would be associated with an art exhibition, and trade fair guides which (apparently? I've never seen it, and there's no citation) can also be called exhibition catalogues.

I wrote a suggestion on the talk page about moving the stuff about trade fair catalogues to the trade fair article. But maybe I should just move it myself? How do I decide whether to do this myself? Any advice appreciated. Ascendingrisingharmonising (talk) 16:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Ascendingrisingharmonising I'm not familiar with the subject, but the opening line is – "There are two types of exhibition catalogue (or exhibition catalog): a printed list of exhibits at an art exhibition; and a directory of exhibitors at a trade fair or business-to-business event." Does your research show that there are two types of publications known as exhibition catalogues? If so, then both types should be left in, if you can find good references. If the opening sentence is wrong, then you should correct it, and only leave what is actually known as exhibition catalogues. I would suggest that you first work on finding good references, and give others who may have an interest in the article time to respond to what you wrote on the Talk page. Best wishes on your projects – both academic and Wikipedia article editing. And thank you for wanting to help. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. In my opinion, there are "two types of publications known as exhibition catalogues" - but one type is almost always known as an exhibition catalogue, whereas the other type is only occasionally called that and usually called something else (and has little to do with what people usually mean by the term). Ascendingrisingharmonising (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Kenkan

Why is the Read tab on all enwiki pages currently labelled "Kenkan"? which is not a word in any language I know.

This seems to be an enwiki-only problem. dewiki, eswiki and frwiki show "Lesen", "Leer" and "Lire", as expected. Narky Blert (talk) 16:16, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I've noticed this too. Has someone been messing about with some code? – PeeJay 16:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps related to the problem discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Edit tab says siesie? Deor (talk) 17:19, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: @PeeJay: Forgot to ping, drat it. Deor (talk) 17:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

GLORY - SUGGESTED UKRAINE VERSION: GLORY UKRAINE

I want to submit a suggested version of GLORY by John Legend and Common with two substitutions of rap sections specific to Ukraine. I would submit the lyrics with the substituted portions. Can I do this, knowing the lyrics are copyrighted? I'm new to this. Harlanpjohnson (talk) 16:34, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Harlanpjohnson: Welcome to the Teahouse! It depends on the extent to which you plan to use the lyrics in the article. Quotations of copyrighted work within the analytical framework can fall into the fair use provisions within US copyright law (and to a lesser extent fair dealing and related concepts within other jurisdictions). Such quotations can be done through inline text, block quotes, or (in the case of a song) inclusion of an image showing part of the sheet music. However, how much of a song you can quote is open to interpretation, but you should follow the Non-free content policy. ––FormalDude talk 16:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Harlanpjohnson. I may be misunderstanding you, but what I think you are saying is that you want to use Wikipedia to publish an alternative version of a song. If that is indeed what you mean, then I am afraid that Wikipedia may not be used to publish original material, no matter how important or commendable it might be. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, and all that should go into any article is a summary of what independent reliable sources have published about the subject. ColinFine (talk) 23:30, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Checking needed

FYI

 – Moved to bottom of page, added signatures, deactivated {{Expand Chinese}} template which was causing formatting problems — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 17:39, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Onel5969 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log) He is a long time wikipedia editor. He didn't improve the article and keeps moving my page. Finally, he wanted to delete it. 15:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngancheekean (talk • contribs) 17:25, March 11, 2022 (UTC)

I think {{Expand Chinese}} is a good tool, so any action next that i can do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngancheekean (talk • contribs) 17:28, March 11, 2022 (UTC)

@Ngancheekean: Please stop accusing people. Can you link to the specific article you're referring to? Also, I doubt this has anything at all to do with race. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 17:44, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Yan Zhiyi and Yan Han (Jin Dynasty). It is also at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngancheekean (talk • contribs) 17:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The articles themselves definitely don't need to go to ANI. Your conduct and accusations however, most likely do. Did you actually read the edit summaries you quoted there? Also, please always sign your messages, here and on ANI especially. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 17:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

What do you want me to say? That is just went missing? I can put back the article but he will blocked again. Ngancheekean (talk) 22:08, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Translations of the bible

I often find when reading articles something to do with Christianity that, when quoting a bible passage, they tend to use the King James Version. Is this due to a policy/guideline (and if so why), or is it just an unwritten rule? Either way, I do not consider it very helpful - the King James Version is unclear for modern readers (given how the language has changed, and translation techniques have improved). Farleigheditor (talk) 17:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Farleigheditor. I am pinging Jenhawk777 to this discussion. Jenhawk777 is a very helpful editor with a lot of experience with biblical and Christian topics. Cullen328 (talk) 17:47, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Correct. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Farleigheditor I don't know of any written guidance. I tend to consider it a version of WP:ENGVAR/WP:REFVAR, as in keep consistent within article, don't change without good reason (for example see the editsummaries in this diff:[2]), and if you start the article you get to pick. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:26, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello Farleigheditor, the simple answer is "because it's the easy thing to do". There is a template for King James that is simple and there isn't for other versions. That's it. Human laziness - mine included. Gråbergs Gråa Sång gives good advice above. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:51, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Editing an archive

If I've been reading an archive, and notice a text modif (ie bolding, small text, strikethrough) has been improperly closed and interupts read-ablitiy of the archive, is it okay to edit said archive? Example link Isro! (talk) 18:43, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Axisroi, yes! I'm sure there's a line somewhere at WP:Talk page guidelines or somewhere else that permits this, but fundamentally, the more relevant guidance is WP:Ignore all rules. Fixing a broken archive (probably from a lint error) is a clear improvement, so don't let bureaucratic rules about not modifying archives get in your way. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:40, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Group collaborations

What are the differences between a WikiProject, a Workgroup, and a Taskforce? Are there any relevant policies, guidelines, or essays on the creation and maintenance of each of these? TipsyElephant (talk) 19:02, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you read WP:Wikiproject and WP:Taskforce. I believe a Workgroup is the same as a Taskforce.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:18, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

FREE Renarldo Cartagena at fishkill correctional BY Maria cartagena (Redacted)

My brother has been in prison 28 years now its time he comes home im seeking to bring attention to this cause — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.254.1.42 (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't the place to bring attention to a cause. See WP:PROMO. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 19:41, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello! Wikipedia is not the place to advocate for a cause; we just mirror what journalists write. So if you'd like to bring attention to your brother, get journalists to write about him, and then Wikipedia coverage will follow. Best, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

If that's a telephone number, it shouldn't be displayed here. I've asked for admin attention. Elemimele (talk) 19:46, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Elemimele: Personal information should be oversighted, not just revision deleted by an admin. I've emailed the oversighter team already. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 19:50, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Article being deleted

Hello I just want to ask why my article is being deleted (Article is tuxedo labs) Teardown a creation OF tuxedo labs is an article so why are the CREATORS of teardown not being accepted as an article? Editor123ALOP (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC) Editor123ALOP (talk) 19:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Editor123ALOP: Welcome to the Teahouse! Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 19:53, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Teardown (video game) has had significant coverage in reliable sources, the company has not, so only exists as a redirect to the game. This is quite common. Your draft is not being deleted, but has been rejected. You can see the reasons at the top of the draft.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Alright Thanks! Editor123ALOP (talk) 00:02, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Comedic, Irrelevant Articles

Hey, I'm kinda new to this creating pages thing, am I allowed to create a commemorative article about something no one is ever going to need in terms of information? I was wondering if I could create an article for my cat, Chesterlord, just for fun, maybe in the hopes that someone in the future would randomly stumble across it and laugh about it or something? Like, I noticed the Wikipediholic Test and that seems really irrelevant towards actual research, but seems like so much fun, can I create something like that?

Danke Dwightol102 (talk) 20:36, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dwightol102: I'd avoid creating anything that's not encyclopedic. There are other platforms for blogging. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:59, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Awwww maaaaan... Fiiiine.

(, Dwightol102 (talk) 21:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Dwightol102: Welcome to the Teahouse! Regarding creating an article for your cat, see also WP:NOTWEBHOST. However, some people choose to upload a personal picture on their own user page. GoingBatty (talk) 01:29, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

What next??

Newbie here. Just put a draft article in my Sandbox. What do I do next? RDLunsfordPhD (talk) 20:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@RDLunsfordPhD:  Courtesy link: User:RDLunsfordPhD/sandbox Please read WP:COI and WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:58, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! RDLunsfordPhD (talk) 21:11, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@RDLunsfordPhD: Also see WP:GNG and WP:PROF for what makes a person with an academic career Wikipedia-notable, and Help:Referencing for beginners for how to reference. David notMD (talk) 21:14, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Help for new article about the source

HI!! I'm new here and I became with a view to make a page for my favorite artist called LØREN. While I was reading about how to write an article in Wikipedia I saw that my sources have to be reliable and from a trusted and high-quality source. The only sources I can find right now are these sites: https://kprofiles.com/loren-profile-facts/#disqus_thread https://i-d.vice.com/en_uk/article/m7enn8/loren-south-korean-music-interview&ved=2ahUKEwjt5_b08 https://kpopmembersbio.com/loren-profile/&ved=2ahUKEwiyoMzD_r72AhWKRvEDHWW_B9s4ChAWegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0CNVAVghzwxTDX5XTYek6qr72AhUtwQIHHem1C04QFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2OC7-u0OPSZGP-PbPbsHsT https://rollingstoneindia.com/loren-delivers-pop-punk-excellence-on-need-ooo-eee/&ved=2ahUKEwiyoMzD_r72AhWKRvEDHWW_B9s4ChAWegQIEBAB&usg=AOvVaw2kianij-dzrbDVirT17Npg https://genius.com/artists/Lren&ved=2ahUKEwitwq74_r72AhURwAIHHYouC-A4FBAWegQIFBAB&usg=AOvVaw2pjIZUXkA_-7-RUwhMdiaz At a first look that's all the trusty information I can find an I'm sure I'm not going too find more,plus Instagram where the artist and his own company FIRE EXIT RECØRDS have corrected and approved these informations. What I want to say is if there is any chance my article will not be deleted after I post it because of the source. I'm going also to add it to the Wikipedia: Requested Artcles but I would like to have some more information. Also, if I write, do you think is going to be notable and is this enough information? Thank you for your time. Fisforfenia (talk) 21:07, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@Fisforfenia: Some of the links look dead. Have you read WP:NMUSICIAN yet? It seems a bit weak for now. You should read WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. This is very hard to do successfully if you are new. If you think you have enough, you can start a draft at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. It's not likely that another editor will see a request and act on it to create the article themselves. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

It was a mistake, but how to fix it?

I was in a hurry to create an English version of a page devoted to the Russian businessman and philanthropist Boris Zimin (this person supported Russian science for years, and now there is a concern in Russian scientific society that he might be sanctioned, which would be terribly unfair! It's just an explanation why I was in a hurry). So I made a wrong decision to create a short page of a single paragraph and then develop it into a normal English page. But I underestimated the speed of Wikipedia: in 15 minutes the page was converted into a draft as relying on a single source (though several sources were already at hand, I did not have time to insert them).

Now, the page is a draft: Draft:Boris Zimin

It contains now a number of sources both English and Russian, and I am a bit frustrated because the person who converted it into a draft does not answer, and I don't see what's wrong with the page now. If somebody feels that it requires improvement, please let me know. But if it is OK, how can I make it a normal English version? Mlarisa (talk) 22:25, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

courtesy ping: Robert McClenon 💜  melecie  talk - 23:51, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Mlarisa, User:Melecie - I didn't move it to draft space. I only put a note on it saying that it had been moved from article space to draft space. It was moved from article space to draft space by User:Singularity42. You asked me on my talk page, and I gave the same answer, and Singularity42 answered, saying that it appeared that you had resolved the issue, which was that there was only one source.

I will add that your mistake was one that is sometimes made by editors creating an article in article space, and that is to create part of the article, in article space, and expect to finish it in article space soon. As you can see, New Page Review is often quick in dealing with clearly incomplete articles, which may be moved to draft space or tagged for speedy deletion. What I, and some other editors, advise, is not to put a fragment of an article in article space. Put the fragment of the article in user space, such as a sandbox, or in draft space. When it is ready for article space, move it to article space.

What you can do now is to wait for a reviewer to accept the draft, which moves it into article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:38, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

And now it's reviewed and back in mainspace.Slywriter (talk) 02:04, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Robert McClenon Thank you for explanation, in future I will be careful with new articles ) Mlarisa (talk) 06:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Slywriter Thank you very much for your help! Mlarisa (talk) 06:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Source with dead/deceiving link. Potentially harmful.

How do I delete it + do I need to explain why I did so in the edit history? The page is "Kolchuga passive sensor" Smitty.henry (talk) 22:31, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Kolchuga passive sensor

hi Smitty.henry and welcome to the teahouse! what link are you referring to? 💜  melecie  talk - 23:54, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Soundcloud as a reliable source.

Hello there. I'm reviewing an article for GA status and one of the sources listed is a link to a soundcloud file. I don't know if I should treat this similar to an archive.org link or if it's an unreliable source altogether. Any opinions? NSNW (talk) 23:01, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

@NSNW, can you give us the link and the statement it's trying to support? Soundclouds are managed by the artist, typically, so I'd guess it's likely suitable only for supporting WP:ABOUTSELF material. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 00:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Sure thing. (https://soundcloud.com/qanonanonymous/episode-123-international-qanon-the-netherlands-feat-marc-andre-argentino). The source is referencing the fact that a researcher identified a trend in how QAnon followers attempt to bring female followers into joining the theory, (the article I am reviewing is Pastel QAnon). NSNW (talk) 01:09, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I would also like to add that the source is isn't necessary for the text. There are three sources besides the SoundCloud source that are accurate being used to cite the claim. I'm mainly doing this for future reference if I ever come across a SoundCloud source that's by itself. NSNW (talk) 01:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@NSNW, ah, well in that case, I'd say the principle applies that it matters who the source is and what their credentials are, not what platform they're publishing on. So just as YouTube isn't normally reliable but a YouTube video from a YouTube video from The New York Times very much is, so too a Soundcloud audio file can be reliable, but it'd be have to be from a reliable source. I'd have to look more into it to say if Marc-André Argentino or QAnon Anonymous meet that bar, but that's the relevant question. Hope that helps! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Alright then, I will probably just ask that the source be removed. There are already reliable sources that cite Marc-Andre Argentino, so it shouldn't be a problem; thank you. NSNW (talk) 19:59, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Translation without proper attribution

Hi there, I noticed that several of the articles I wrote on the French Wikipedia have been translated here in English, however without proper attribution (per WP:TFOLWP). One example: Shigisan Engi Emaki. Any idea how to fix it now? Binabik (talk) 00:01, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Binabik: Add the template {{Translated page}} to the talk page, and do a dummy edit naming the originating source with the edit summary. Notify the translating editor. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

If you'd like, you can use the {{uw-translation}} template to warn the editor. DanCherek (talk) 00:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

If the article was rated by a Wikiproject, you might also want to remind the editor who rated it to check if an article looks like it might be a translation from another wiki before rating it. I catch unattributed translations in the WP:GERMANY assessment queue all the time. -- asilvering (talk) 04:12, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Am I violating policy on rel sources and factual statements?

I recently added in information that (over 90 countries have signed up for Huawei). My source is as below. https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/585662-to-compete-with-china-in-5g-america-must-solve-its-spectrum-problem https://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurherman/2020/06/09/whos-winning-and-whos-losing-the-war-over-5g/?sh=2a977d67104e Am I wrong to add into an article saying that "over 90 countries signed up for Huawei"? I think my sources aren't making an opinion but simply stating a fact. Dragonkingluv (talk) 03:47, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

hi Dragonkingluv and welcome to the teahouse! the first source is part of an opinion piece, and while it might state facts, it is better to find a less opinionated source for it as per WP:NEWSORG: Editorial commentary, analysis and opinion pieces, whether written by the editors of the publication (editorials) or outside authors (invited op-eds and letters to the editor from notable figures) are reliable primary sources for statements attributed to that editor or author, but are rarely reliable for statements of fact. the second source is a forbes contributors piece, which is not only an opinion piece, but also don't have as much editorial oversight and as such generally considered unreliable. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 05:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

How can i create a person page

Neha Pandey i have referances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AhmdAsjad (talk • contribs) 06:21, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@AhmdAsjad, see Help:Your first article. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:39, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

You have a track record of creating articles without going through AfC that are then nominated for deletion, also putting an article in mainspace after it was declined at AfC, also creating biography articles of living people without adequate referencing (Tim McGeary), also being warned for removing AfD tags from your articles. If you believe you have refs for Neha Pandey, then I strongly recommend using the AfC process. That way, one reviewer will decide if the draft is worthy, rather than wasting the time of many at AfD. David notMD (talk) 11:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

On further digging, Neha Pandey was recently created as an article (after several failed attempts in the past). It was moved to Draft:Neha Pandey and then deleted. David notMD (talk) 12:07, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Deletion tag in an article

Hi, I added deletion tag in this article: Neena Gupta. I believe the notability is lacking for this person. But my deletion tag was deleted. Could someone review this and let me know why? Logically yours... (talk) 07:05, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

You never tagged it for deletion, but rather for notability issues. The tag seems to have served its purpose, as it's drawn other editors to work on the article and possibly fix it. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 07:25, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

How to change a page title

I wanted to create a page for International Institute for Software Testing. It got created but I see the title is https://testinginstitute.com. How do I change the page title? Magdyshanna (talk) 07:56, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Magdyshanna, welcome to the Teahouse. You created https:/testinginstitute.com. It has been deleted per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#A7. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:27, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Magdyshanna: In general, you can change the title of a page on the english Wikipedia if you have at least 10 edits and have been registered for 4 days by using the page move functionality.

On an unrelated note, Since your article creation history has more failures than sucesses, I would reccomend that you still use the draft namespace to prepear articles until they are ready, and submit them to AfC. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:04, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

am reading Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Atrying to understand why it was deleted. The international Institute for Software Testing is the ONLY educational institution in the world authorized to issue education-based certifications in software testing. It is also the world leader in software testing certifications by the statements of the references independent sources. How that not important. I can see pages for other commercial organization, some of the are our competitors, and they are listing unrelated items on the page e.g. TechWell Corporation and International Software Testing Qualifications Board, which have references to self-published sources. Please help me understand why you think this is not important Magdyshanna (talk) 03:43, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

I am reading Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Atrying to understand why it was deleted. The international Institute for Software Testing is the ONLY educational institution in the world authorized to issue education-based certifications in software testing. It is also the world leader in software testing certifications by the statements of the references independent sources. How that not important. I can see pages for other commercial organization, some of the are our competitors, and they are listing unrelated items on the page e.g. TechWell Corporation and International Software Testing Qualifications Board, which have references to self-published sources. Please help me understand why you think this is not important. Magdyshanna (talk) 03:42, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

am reading Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Atrying to understand why it was deleted. The international Institute for Software Testing is the ONLY educational institution in the world authorized to issue education-based certifications in software testing. It is also the world leader in software testing certifications by the statements of the references independent sources. How that not important. I can see pages for other commercial organization, some of the are our competitors, and they are listing unrelated items on the page e.g. TechWell Corporation and International Software Testing Qualifications Board, which have references to self-published sources. Please help me understand why you think this is not important Magdyshanna (talk) 03:46, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

moving a draft to article space

I'm trying to move my draft Draft:Da Vinci (magazine) but i'm running into some issues. Mainly the moved page only moves the talk tags and not the content? I've moved it again to draft and it has the same issues Draft:Da Vinci (magazine). WillsEdtior777 (talk) 09:30, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

You probbably accidentially moved the talk page, though this will now need some extensive fixing to reunite Draft:Da Vinci (magazine) with its talkpage, which currently resides at Draft:Da Vinci (magazine).. If one of the admin folks here at the Teahouse is reading this, could you move Draft:Da Vinci (magazine). to Draft talk:Da Vinci (magazine), where it belongs? Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:11, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Admin Deb deleted Draft talk:Da Vinci (magazine) to make room for this move. I completed the transaction by have moving Draft:Da Vinci (magazine). to Draft talk:Da Vinci (magazine). I hope that fixes the problem. —Wasell^(T) 12:16, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Victor and Deb and Wasell. I'll re-check next time before i move a page.WillsEdtior777 (talk)

Chemical information

Hello I'm looking for someone named Berek on the Wikipedia to check my chemical information here at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium_-_Neutron_Fusion Gekkotan (talk) 12:21, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Before you do that, Gekkotan, please remove all the inappropriate capital letters ("Unimageable [sic] Amounts of Energy to Be Released", etc), and rephrase "Some Politicians think its wonderful and it is in most cases" in an (of course referenced) way suitable for an encyclopedia. -- Hoary (talk) 12:55, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Deuterium–neutron fusion Moved to draft by another user. 108.52.196.8 (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Gekkotan In my opinion, you have a serious competency-is-required problem. In looking at your contributions to date, I see two drafts that were declined and seven that have not been submitted for review. Your writing consistes of run-on sentences and sentence fragments, and inappropriate word capitalization. Draft:Abell 1836-BCG is an example. The only reason Draft:Cyclone Gombe approaches a valid draft is because other editors have written most of it. I strongly recommend that you stop creating new drafts, then either improve or abandon your existing drafts. David notMD (talk) 16:24, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Gekkotan check out WP:YOURFIRSTARTICLE. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:34, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Gekkotan has been editing only since March 2nd. David notMD (talk) 00:50, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

New article

When can i share my idea of an article to be created — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infotrex (talk • contribs) 13:00, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

hi Infotrex and welcome to the teahouse! you can create an article yourself actually, see WP:Your first article. if you feel like it may be too hard for you right now, you can shelve it for now and come back to it once you have enough skill, or drop it in WP:Requested articles and someone may be able to make it if they know of it too. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 13:20, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Truth is, Requested articles is pretty much a dead letter site, meaning that article ideas are submitted, but nothing happens. David notMD (talk) 16:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

That's not entirely true! Sometimes I go through and remove the obviously-not-going-to-happen ones (i.e. the repeated request for Chris-Chan under various titles which has been discussed far beyond extensively) casualdejekyll 02:57, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Shortcut on MOS

I recently posted an update per a lengthy MOS talkpage discussion, but I realized that I actually do not know how to get a proper "shortcut" to actually link back to an article or section. Can someone please help me to "fix" this shortcut listed here as MOS:SPACEBENEATH. This is listed or referred to in two sections:

1. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility#Spacing beneath heading and 2. Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Section headings

You will notice that the 'SPACEBENEATH' shortcut link is redlinked (not working) in both cases. Thanks! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 13:18, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

hi Th78blue! I believe shortcuts are just redirects, you just probably need to make a redirect at MOS:SPACEBENEATH like #REDIRECT [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility#Spacing beneath heading]] to get it to work. although there's the problem of where you want the shortcut to redirect to, as you can only redirect to one. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 13:25, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, so I tried that just now to hit the "create redirect" button, and entered this text, #REDIRECT MOS:SPACEBENEATH and it failed me. If I have to choose only one, I want MOS:SPACEBENEATH to redirect to Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Section headings. Any further help in getting this to work would be appreciated! ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 13:34, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Th78blue: I've created the shortcut for you just to help you out here. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 13:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate that! I'll still want to learn what I was doing wrong, but I appreciate a quick fix in the meantime too. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 13:59, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

To put it into just a few words: A shortcut is exactly like any other redirect, which is like any other page on the wiki. To make a redirect, you just add that bit of code on the page you want to redirect from to point it toward the page you want to redirect to. In this case, that meant creating MOS:SPACEBENEATH with the content #REDIRECT [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style#MOS:SPACEBENEATH]] (along with the {{R from shortcut}} tag just to categorize it), which linked to the specific paragraph where the {{Shortcut}} tag was added on the MoS page. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

copyright

Someone randomly changed the work I did when I was in the middle of editing

Someone said some text was copyrighted. Copyright is usually the whole artwork or work, not a piece or portion of the text. Are there any copyright experts or anywhere else to get this fixed?  Morefactswiki (talk) 15:00, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Morefactswiki: Please only seek one method of getting assistance at one time. Asking in multiple places annoys people because it is likely wasted effort. (For those who see this, this is also at WP:HD#Copyright). Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy note: user is now blocked. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 15:42, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Poor attitude and complete inability to read and understand information provided by others. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:30, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Addition to Julien Binford history

His papers are currently held in the Virginia museum of fine arts archive. What topic should the information go under? Finecreek (talk) 16:40, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Finecreek. A possibility would be to create a "Legacy" section that would list museums that hold his paintings and the locations of his existing murals. This article, for example, discusses efforts to save some of his murals. Archiving of his papers could be added as well. Cullen328 (talk) 17:54, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Dear, Team Why did you decline the page I created?

Dear, Team Why did you decline the page I created? Mytom3 (talk) 17:02, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Anshuman Tiwari (musician). The draft was declined by a reviewer. Reasons given in the decline notice. The reviewer's name is on the review, so you could ask that person on their Talk page. Teahouse hosts are here to advise, but not to function as reviewers. David notMD (talk) 17:06, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Mytom3: Hello Mytom3, Welcome to Wikipedia! Your page was declined because your page does not have reliable sources. It means that there should be significant coverage about the person in reliable sources. You should add those references in your page. You can search on Google to find more references about him, than add them in article. I suggest you to read WP:General notability guidelines. Thank you. Happy editing! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IconEditorMaster (talk • contribs)

More to the point, there is an additional set of guidelines for musicians (see WP:MUSIC). And the image of Anshuman is about to be deleted, as it was taken from his website, wich is copyright protected. David notMD (talk) 17:28, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Mytom3 - If I had been the reviewer, I would have declined Draft:Anshuman Tiwari (musician). Please do not annoy multiple editors by asking them for guidance. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

AfC for Captain Robert Hicks has been rejected by one reviewer

If anyone is able to assist me in saving this article from its current "rejected" status, would they be kind enough to do so here: [[3]]? - I find it difficult to be in two places at once! Would a change of title, making the article about the Hicks family, be more acceptable than being focussed on Robert Hicks? Anne (talk) 19:35, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry but no amount of assistance is going to make the subject (or their family) notable enough to become the subject of a Wikipedia article. You have already been given very good advice.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Per this comment, also see WP:OVERCOME. — {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 20:24, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Captain Robert Hicks, North Carolina Militia

Promoting all presidents to good article status

I would like to work towards getting all the presidents to at least good article status. I was wondering if someone can evaluate all the presidents articles that are not good or featured articles on what their issues are and figure out which articles will be easy to work on and which articles will need a lot of work before reaching featured article status. Interstellarity (talk) 21:02, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I'd recommend you check out the US Presidents Wikiproject, which is intended to organize work on those articles. I'm not sure how active that project is, but it does have some tables to overview the current state of those articles. It takes some work to evaluate an article, so it might be best to choose one to focus on and ask specifically about it.--Noren (talk) 21:14, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

There are lots of articles about presidents and most of them probably have banners for WikiProjects on the tops of their user talk pages; so, that might be a good place to start. You’re also probably going to need to be clearer about which type of articles you asking for help on. Are you talking about biographies about individual presidents of countries, organizations, institutions or companies? Are you talking about more general articles about the office of president, or list articles about the president of certain countries? The word “president” might mean different things to different people. — Marchjuly (talk) 21:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: To be clear, I am talking about the biographies of the individual presidents who served as president. Interstellarity (talk) 21:39, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Interstellarity - I think you missed the point of the question in giving an American-centric answer in an international Anglophone community. There are approximately 200 countries in the world, and I would guess that more than half of them each have an office of president, where the others either are monarchies or have some alternate governmental system. There have been hundreds, maybe a few thousand, individuals who have served as president of a republic. You were being asked whether you meant President of the United States, current heads of state, or what. This is an international encyclopedia. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:56, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Interstellarity, Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Vladimir Putin are just two newsworthy examples of the "individual presidents who served as president". Although both articles look very good to my inexpert eye, neither is "good" (let alone "featured"), and I think you'd have your hands full getting either promoted. -- Hoary (talk) 22:08, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Hoary: To be even more clear, I have no interest in promoting those articles to good article status. What I would like to do is focus on the US presidents. Interstellarity (talk) 22:24, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Your best bet, in my opinion, is to discuss what you want to do with the members of Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Presidents (as suggested above by Noren) because that's where you're likely to find editors familiar with these articles and interested in helping you. Check out WP:POTUS#Task 1 because that seems to be one of primary goals of that WikiProject. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:32, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Interstellarity Interesting proposal. Per WP:POTUS#Task 1, 30 of 45 U.S. Presidents' articles are currently either GA or FA. Of the other 15, most are either Failed nominations (examples Kennedy, LBJ) or Delisted former GA or FA (examples Jefferson, Ford). Appears only Buchanan (C-class) and Hoover (C-class) have never been nominated. The article on President Obama achieved FA in 2004, was reviewed and kept 11 times, then reviewed and demoted in 2021. David notMD (talk) 00:27, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

edit and update a wikkipedia page

Good day, i edited and updated a wikipedia page but it was reversed, how can i have it approved and unreversed? Markegwu (talk) 23:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@Markegwu: As noted in the message on your talk page, you are trying to delete a lot from the article with no explanation. Please discuss it on that article's talk page. Don't edit war. RudolfRed (talk) 23:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

thanks, how do i get to the artcles talk page? Markegwu (talk) 23:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Dave_Umahi RudolfRed (talk) 23:49, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Markegwu. The first thing you should do is check the page history of the article in question and see if the editor who undid your changes left an edit summary explaining why. The edit summary might contain a list of relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines that applied to your edit (sometimes this includes links (i.e. words indicated in blue) where you can find more specific information. If you find an edit summary and don't understand what it means, then you can start a discussion about the edit you made on the article's talk page as explained here. If you're not sure how to use an article talk page, you can find out more information on that here. Wikipedia is a collaborative editing project and often there are disagreements between editors about what content should be added to articles and what content should be removed. When that happens, the best way to try and resolve things is through discussion to see if a consensus can be established either way. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:44, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

external links

Hi my question is that how I can add external links Fashijanjua (talk) 00:06, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

External links must not be to company websites, as that is considered promotional. You have attempted to add metsolar to three articles. That is considered attempted spamming, and can get you indefinitely blocked. David notMD (talk) 00:32, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

if i want to add this website then Fashijanjua (talk) 00:33, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

You can see the guidance at WP:ELNO. RudolfRed (talk) 00:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

 92.45.19.32 (talk) 00:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Basically, a company website can be an extenal link only if the article is about the company. Same for people. David notMD (talk) 00:54, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

How to become a host in Teahouse

Can you tell me how to become a host on Teahouse? 2001:44B8:41C6:F700:5C17:7652:27D9:A01F (talk) 02:27, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Becoming a host at the teahouse requires you to be extended confirmed, which additionally requires you first to create an account (which has many other benefits) and have 500 edits + 30 days of editing casualdejekyll 03:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Of course, the title of "host" confers no privileges or authority; it's generally given to users who are regulars and give helpful answers. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)