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Flattening a category

Is the operation of flattening a category possible? That is, I want to see all pages in a category, as well as its subcategories (with this definition recursively applied to included its subcategories as well, etc.). I use the word flatten analogously to "flattening a nested array" here.--2602:306:C531:7310:7C8C:339:8338:B872 (talk) 20:34, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes, the Wikipedia:PetScan tool can do this. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Subcategories

For example on Turkey, the categories are listed on the page itself, and also to the Category/Turkey. Should we remove those in the article and leave the ones in the category, or should it stay on both? Please ping me after a reply. Beshogur (talk) 09:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

@Beshogur: I don't know what you mean by the Category/Turkey; but the rest should be covered by Wikipedia:Categorization. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:31, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

@Redrose64: I mean Category:Turkey. Beshogur (talk) 15:22, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Category text size

Is it just me or has Wikipedia decided to enlarge the catagory boxes everywhere? The text looks much bigger than standard text size. TheBartgry (talk) 15:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Yep, I also noticed this. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 16:25, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

@TheBartgry and Nehme1499: See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Font sizes all over the place. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:11, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Revamping the category pages

I don't know the right place to mention this, but wikipedia's category pages could use an overhaul. Whenever I end up on a category page, I'm disappointed that I've arrived at a page that's hard to find information in. They are only sorted alphabetically and contain too little information per page. There should be ways to reorganize the listings (chronologically at least) and a way to search the lists. 71.7.174.105 (talk) 17:47, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Category pages can only be organised in one way, it would require a fundamental software change (file a feature request at phab:) to do it another way. That has little change of being accepted, so you should consider using a list, see Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:32, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Dalcroze eurhythmics - category of Talk page doesn't match category of Article page

Hi I'd like to fix a discrepancy between a talk page Talk:Dalcroze eurhythmics and its associated article page Dalcroze eurhythmics . The article page is in the Music Education category while the Talk page is in some dance categories. I think it would be good to conform the Talk page to the Article page category. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks

Edinburghpotsdam (talk) 18:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Edinburghpotsdam: No, talk page categories are independent of article categories, and for the most part, are different. On the talk page there are three categories: Category:Start-Class Dance articles Category:Unknown-importance Dance articles Category:WikiProject Dance articles these are all produced by the {{WikiProject Dance}} banner at the top. Banners like that must not be used in articles. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Thank you! I will try to improve my understanding of why it would work that way. Edinburghpotsdam (talk) 00:42, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Section wording – Putting pages into categories

The section Help:Category#Putting pages into categories begins A page belongs to a category if the page's wiki markup contains a declaration for that category.

Seems awkward and cart before the horse.

Many editors link to this section when reverting improper edits to category pages. It should read as if to a new editor, who wants to categorize a page, but does not know how. Just a suggestion: If a page belongs to a category, then the declaration for that category should be placed at the bottom of its page.

The current wording isn't even necessarily true. Anyone, including the person you are reverting, could have added (incorrectly) the category declaration. Doesn't mean the page actually belongs. --DB1729 (talk) 20:53, 20 September 2021 (UTC)