User talk:Tartan357

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This user tries to do the right thing. If he makes a mistake, please let him know. This user helps out newcomers. vn-6This user talk page has been vandalized 6 times.

Apology

Hey, Tartan357. Upon reflection, I realize that me intimating anything about you trying to trip AnonQuixote up was out of line and highly inappropriate. You were discussing matters in good faith and, really, had zero control over their mainspace editing. It was very much unfair of me to even hint of it being otherwise. So, I offer you my apologies, without reservations. Again, I will reflect and try to do better in the future. I appreciate and admire your level-headed and calm demeanor throughout this, and especially when suffering the unfairness of the above at my hands. Best regards, El_C 17:30, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

El C, thanks, apology accepted. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 17:32, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for being gracious, Tartan357. El_C 17:34, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) El C, this conduct makes me happy. Thank you for your self-critique and willingness to be in the wrong. (We could use more of that on the wiki). ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 18:02, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Gwennie. What can I say? I still gotta eat the shame and embarrassment in faltering this spectacularly, but sincere thanks for trying to make me feel better! I appreciate that very much. El_C 18:09, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

El C, I'm glad you found it acceptable. This kind of conduct (self-critique and such) is something we should celebrate and encourage on the wiki. It goes a long way toward fostering the environment that allows us to all be as here as we can.

Some admins let the broomstick go to their head and are unwilling to do the honest self-crit we saw above with you. This behavior is very becoming of an admin and a great example for you to show other editors (admins in particular) to help them learn and grow in the same way you do. ~Gwennie🐈｟💬 📋｠ 18:22, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Notice of AE appeal

Hi, you may wish to comment at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_AnonQuixote. AnonQuixote (talk) 01:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Please do not keep changing the Party leaders of the United States Senate page back to the Republican leadership. Best, MTATransitFan^Chat! 21:47, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

MTATransitFan, I'm just keeping the content factual. Can you provide a citation that the election of floor leaders has occurred yet? Because I think it's not scheduled to happen until 5. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 21:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

MTATransitFan, the new senators were just sworn in, so the edit is now acceptable. But my reverts occurred prior, and were thus entirely appropriate. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 21:50, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Tartan357 Sorry! My bad! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MTATransitFan (talk • contribs) 21:52, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

MTATransitFan, no worries! It's always a mad scramble when these transitions occur, and I do inevitably make a few mistakes myself. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 21:56, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

About your note on my talk

While I understand it being unsourced, Big Tent is a meaningless, catch-all colloquialism, not an actual political position. Darubrub (talk) 01:51, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Darubrub, I disagree that it's "meaningless". The Libertarian Party cannot be placed on the left-right spectrum, and it welcomes people with widely differing views on social issues. What unites members of the party is the general understanding that force should not be used to achieve social goals. There was an implicit agreement in 1974 between the anarcho-capitalist and minarchist factions to not state in the platform whether it is desirable for the state to exist, known as the Dallas Accord. From the lead of that article:

The Dallas Accord was an implicit agreement made at the 1974 Libertarian National Convention to compromise between the larger minarchist and smaller anarcho-capitalist factions by adopting a platform that explicitly did not say whether it was desirable for the state to exist.
The purpose of the Dallas Accord was to make the Libertarian Party of the United States a "big tent" that would welcome more ideologically diverse groups of people interested in reducing the size of government.

Your placement of the party on the left-right spectrum is incorrect and I don't see what you're basing it on. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:18, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

MTG

I skimmed that comment way too quickly. I only noticed the beginning and the end, not the part threatening violence in the middle. Removal was the right call. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:04, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - February 2021

Issue 9—February 2021

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter

Happy February everyone. I hope the new year is starting to look better than the last one did. As always, if you have any ideas to improve the newsletter, please post them at the talkpage. Otherwise, here is what's happening around the project:

Newly recognized content

Late onset congenital adrenal hyperplasia nom. Maxim Masiutin, reviewed by Vaticidalprophet UPMC Presbyterian nom. Andrew nyr, reviewed by HickoryOughtShirt?4

Nominated for review

Louise Boursier nom. Doug Coldwell Friedreich's ataxia nom. Akrasia25 Kivu Ebola epidemic nom. Ozzie10aaaa Biotin nom. David notMD, under review by HaEr48 Lurie Children's Hospital nom. Andrew nyr, under review by HickoryOughtShirt?4 Urinothorax nom. Steve M. Imprinted brain hypothesis nom. Vaticidalprophet Management of multiple sclerosis Currently a FA removal candidate. Alzheimer's disease Notice of impending featured article review at talk. Major depressive disorder Notice of impending FAR at talk. Influenza Notice of impending FAR at talk. Menstrual cycle Notice of impending FAR at talk.

News from around the site

• Another discussion has closed, with consensus supporting continued use of the phrase "committed suicide" in articles.
• The Medicine Collaboration of the Month for February is Cirrhosis. Head to Talk:Cirrhosis to coordinate our efforts. You can nominate future collaborations at WP:MCOTM.
• This month's target maintenance backlog is "articles that need more wikilinks". Just 65 medicine pages have {{Underlinked}} on them, so hopefully we can clean them all up this month.
• Flyer22 Frozen, longtime and prolific editor on medicine and television/film topics, has died. You can read a brief reflection on her Wikipedia work here, and leave condolences at her talk page.

Discussions of interest

• Continued discussion on the role of subject-specific notability guidelines at Wikipedia talk:Notability.
• An ongoing effort to trim talk page banners has brought us a discussion regarding whether {{English variant notice}}s should be converted to editnotices.
• An ongoing discussion at WT:MED considers spinning out parts of the infobox for medicines/drugs into other templates.

Discuss this issue

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Removal

Hi

Do you have a source? --Panam2014 (talk) 11:48, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Panam2014, no. Somebody else made the infobox change and I just changed the lead to match it. It seemed reasonable since he's a member of the NLD. You can change it back if it's wrong. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 13:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Panam2014, it looks like we don't have confirmation he's been removed, although he may have been "disappeared". I changed it back. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 16:56, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Evidence

The website I use https://michaeljlindell.com/ would be considered "fake" by some. However, my example is when the media blamed a medicine (I cannot remember the name) that Trump said was safe as a "dangerous substance". However, now that Biden is president, they praise that exact medicine. This is contradictory to me, and I am also conservative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan955 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Ethan955, you are correct that I consider that website a fake news source. None of what Mike Lindell has said about COVID-19 or the 2020 presidential election has any basis in reality. There is a strong consensus in reliable sources that his claims are false. The plant extract you are thinking of is oleandrin, and I am not aware of any praise of it from the medical community at any point. On the contrary, the scientific consensus continues to be that it is poisonous. If you believe that Lindell is telling the truth, then your editing career will be a short one. Wikipedia deals in verifiable content only. Believing in lies and conspiracies is not a conservative value, and this nonsense only harms the conservative movement. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 00:51, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

How do I reply

Can you help? I cannot figure out where to paste @Tartan357:? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan955 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Ethan955, sure, I'm happy to help out new editors. The reply template only works if you sign the comment it's added in. You should sign all talk page comments, and indent your replies. See WP:THREAD for instructions. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:03, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Politics

Sorry if I expressed my opinions for anything, let us not get political... Wikipedia should be neutral... I just tend to be conservative myself, sorry. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan955 (talk • contribs) 00:59, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Ethan955, that in itself is not something you need to apologize for. Everyone has opinions and politics. You are welcome to discuss and write about political content as long as you comply with Wikipedia's core content policies. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:07, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hello, I am editing an article called Eritrea, but I am not sure how it wants me to state the source. Should I use MLA or some other format? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethan955 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Ethan955, please sign your talk page comments by adding four tildes: ~~~~. The easiest way to cite your sources is to use the citation templates in the edit window. See WP:INTREF3 for instructions. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

You may wish to go through the full tutorial at Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:14, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Pete Buttigieg

Well to be honest he was nominated by President Biden to the Cabinet position. He didn't get appointed would using the word nominate work better? Welcometothenewmillenium (talk) 00:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

And he was 38 instead of 39 when Biden selected him. Welcometothenewmillenium (talk) 00:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Welcometothenewmillenium, sure, you can change it to "nominated". ― Tartan357 ^Talk 00:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Wisconsin 2022 Gubernatorial Election page, vandalism problem

I added Real American Politics as a Republican candidate that has said publicly that he was interested in potentially running for Wisconsin Governor in 2022. A bunch of idiots noticed this and started vandalizing the page. Now I can't edit it and put RAP back in. Can you help with that?

Thanks in advance, GreatPondWiki (edit, I managed to put it back in, I think. Good now!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreatPondWiki (talk • contribs) 21:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

GreatPondWiki, I've never edited that page, but I appreciate you reaching out. It looks like the problem user was blocked and the page was protected. Let me know if you need help with anything else. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 22:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

2020 Election page and Kanye

I wasn't trying to cause trouble with that. I just added him because he was was one of the most notable and famous candidate in the race other than Biden or Trump. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Historybufffanatic2005 (talk • contribs) 03:09, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Historybufffanatic2005, this is obviously something that we've discussed before, which you'd know if you looked at the WP:CONSENSUS notices on the talk page. You are not the first person to have an idea about who should be in the infobox. Only candidates who received 5% of the vote or any pledged electoral votes are included. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 03:12, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Historybufffanatic2005, here's the consensus link for the 5% rule: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums/Archive 12#RfC on 5% threshold. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 04:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Historybufffanatic2005, looking back on this, I see that it was inappropriate of me to assume you were deliberately editing against the consensus. Please accept my apologizes. You are not the first person to try to add Kanye to the infobox, and you probably won't be the last. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 00:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Repeated links

On repeated links Thanks I am aware of repeated links guideline now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannylenwinn (talk • contribs) 00:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Dannylenwinn, thanks for reaching out, and no worries. I knew that you were just trying to improve the articles. Welcome to Wikipedia! You may wish to read WP:TPHELP to learn how to properly create and sign talk page comments. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 00:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks :) Looking forward to it and more good to come. Thank you for the warm welcome and the wonderful job you guys are doing - keep up the great work. Dannylenwinn (talk) 17:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Duke Montana

Hi Tartan357, I have removed some of the content at Duke Montana as it was apparently reinstated without a citation. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

ToBeFree, okay, thanks for letting me know. I was on RCP and this was definitely a borderline case. The edit summary (claiming to be editing on behalf of the subject) and the previous revert led me to believe it was an unconstructive removal. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 22:13, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for the clarification. I can definitely understand this; I also believe that it has been done disruptively. To prevent further disruption, I have now semi-protected the page for a while. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Jeff Leach edits

Hi Tartan. Thanks for the feedback. Not clear though, on how links to Chronicle of Higher Education and news sites are not considered reliable sources for citation? Everything added was cited. I made a few tweaks, and will await further feedback if you think it's needed. Thx again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OasisMentality (talk • contribs) 20:20, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

OasisMentality, thanks for reaching out. It appears I made a mistake. I only meant to revert your second edit as unreferenced (the part about the tweet being deleted). Your first edit was caught in my rollback. That being said, I have not examined the rest of the content you've added, so there may be other problems with it. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 20:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

2020 Myanmar general election

Am admittedly a total novice at Wiki editing, so I have no idea how this should work. But since you seem to have made a decision over what you think the election annulled text should look like, does this mean that every single other page with this same text now needs it changed to be italicized? Since this is currently the only page with that text and another result displayed where it's in italics? PaKYr (talk) 00:09, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

PaKYr, thanks for reaching out. Most editorial decisions on Wikipedia are made locally; there's nothing wrong with italics being used on one page and not on another. We discuss and consider what is best for each individual article. Consistency with other articles is not generally a useful argument, since the nature of Wikipedia means anyone can change any article; that's the essence of WP:OTHERCONTENT. The exception is when a policy or guideline exists, such as in the manual of style, that applies to multiple pages. I don't think a guideline exists that addresses this particular issue. I'd be happy to discuss with you whether italics are appropriate for this article on the article talk page. If we reach a WP:CONSENSUS there, it will only apply to that article. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 00:31, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

PaKYr, I've decided I don't feel too strongly about this, so I'm going to change it back for you. But what I said in my above comment still applies, and I'd be happy to discuss this with you on the article talk page if you still want to :) ― Tartan357 ^Talk 00:42, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the link on my talk page BTW, I can see it being useful in the future. Didn't really know there was a forum like that to ask questions, much appreciated for bringing it to my attention. PaKYr (talk) 01:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

PaKYr, you're welcome! It's a great resource for new editors. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert

This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date. You have shown interest in discussions about infoboxes and to edits adding, deleting, collapsing, or removing verifiable information from infoboxes. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic. For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

El_C 09:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

AE case

Thanks for pointing out that there was a civility in infoboxes ArbCom case. I had no idea. Do you think I should withdraw my current request for enforcement or maybe take it to ANI instead? I really don't like the drama of drawn-out AE or ANI discussions with experienced users, but I reached my limit with this user's incivility last night. I've tried to meet the rudeness with kindness and gently prod the user in the right direction, but they're not stopping. Unfortunately, it's impacting my ability to enjoy Wikipedia. I either have to steer clear of pages they edit or face this behavior. I don't get why infobox formatting is so contentious. Can you give me some advice on how to handle this situation? I'm really not doing this out of spite or anything; I just want to be able to edit AP2 infoboxes without getting trolled. Thanks. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 10:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

No problem. As I was telling Gerda (ping to annoy!) the other day, I don't think I've ever seen an ARBINFOBOX2 case at AE before. And I suppose this only kinda qualifies, since it is that, but wasn't formally invoked... Anyway, I'm wary to advise, but I will say that greater drama is likely at AN/ANI than at AE. Ultimately, the other user seems content with having a 2-way WP:IBAN imposed. So, happy to do that for both of you. Give me the go ahead and I will make it happen for you two. Kind regards, El_C 14:30, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

El C, I'd rather not do a two-way IBAN since it will hinder my ability to edit and I don't feel I've behaved inappropriately. If that is the only remedy, I'd rather no action be taken. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 18:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Tartan357, okay, noted and understood. But, just so you know, I can ensure that the IBAN is expressly stated as no fault (i.e. no blemish on your respective records). I'll add that a 2-way IBAN basically only consists of a prohibition against reverting and speaking to or about the editor in question. You may also seek a one-way IBAN, but of course, there's a definite burden of proof that will need to be fulfilled for such a request. Finally, if you wish to me close the AE complaint as withdrawn (without prejudice), I am happy to oblige with that, as well. Best, El_C 19:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

El C, thanks, but I'm not interested in a two-way IBAN. It is frequently my impression that WP:CIVIL is not a policy that is enforced except in the most egregious cases, so I'm leaning towards withdrawing the request and just dealing with getting trolled when it comes up. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 19:15, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

El C, I'd like you to close it as withdrawn without prejudice. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 19:38, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. El_C 19:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi Tartan357. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! — Newslinger talk 20:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Reverted edit on 1998 Arkansas Senate race

Incorrectly rolled back my removal of the Tom Prince link. It linked it to the MLB player and not the mayor. You mistakenly said that I “didnt provide a source” and therefore had to remove my change. But it takes one glance at the linked page to see the two are different people. Please fix. Thanks Ziggypower (talk) 19:54, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Ziggypower, what are you talking about? My revert was on the 2020 United States Senate election in Arkansas article, not the 1998 one, and your edit was unreferenced. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 20:20, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Regarding of Myanmar government status

Hi we let you know that President of Myanmar still Mr U Win Myith “present” State counselor still Daw Aung San Su Kyi “present” Min Aung Hlaing was chief of army currently world criminal, military coup. As mention above please put back to original status. If not we consider your are supporting of coup and criminal too. We know that this page it own by your, if not happy remove it all. Don’t change all this nonsense status. Minminnyinyi (talk) 14:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Minminnyinyi, please see Talk:Aung San Suu Kyi/FAQ, which answers your question. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 17:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Aung San Suu Kyi

Hi and thanks for the welcome! The protected page on this subject is noted and understood. I can understand that was getting a little annoying. I won't keep labouring the point, however, it seemed that we were close to a consensus on the minor change being acceptable (Former -> Deposed). Any further thoughts on amending the page? Avanti21 (talk) 21:43, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Avanti21, I'm actually open to making that change. I objected to your claim that the outcome of the coup is not yet definitive, which is counter-factual and is what led to your edit request being collapsed with others containing similar claims. Another editor has continued the discussion on changing "former" to "deposed" at Talk:Aung San Suu Kyi#"former state counsellor" -> "deposed state counsellor". You are more than welcome to participate in that discussion after the protection on the talk page expires next week or your account becomes autoconfimed, which happens when your account has been around for 4 days and you've made 10 edits. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 22:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

OK thanks Tartan357. I'll have a look in a few days. I think it's worth picking up again next week, perhaps when the discussion has calmed down a bit. Avanti21 (talk) 10:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Avanti21, the change has been made. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 15:10, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Re: User talk:ActuallyAlexSmith84

Great pickup here. Confirmed to be the article subject in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LWzhZCvST0 (starting at 2:07). Cheers, Spencer^T•C 03:06, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Spencer, I find it funny that they think the username ActuallyAlexSmith84 constitutes "going undercover". ― Tartan357 ^Talk 22:26, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

XZora

Hey, I am not S2K-Lynx. Im just reading some articles and making them better I don't vandalize them or competency. Im just editing with reliable sources. :) Tartan357, how do i protect pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XZora (talk • contribs) 01:59, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

-XZora  — Preceding unsigned comment added by XZora (talk • contribs) 01:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC) 

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - March 2021

Issue 10—March 2021

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter

Here is what's happening around the project:

Newly recognized content

17q12 microdeletion syndrome nom. Vaticidalprophet, reviewed by Bibeyjj Urinothorax nom. Steve M., reviewed by Bibeyjj Lurie Children's Hospital nom. Andrew nyr, reviewed by HickoryOughtShirt?4 Biotin nom. David notMD, reviewed by HaEr48 Imprinted brain hypothesis nom. Vaticidalprophet, reviewed by Lee Vilenski

Nominated for review

Friedreich's ataxia nom. Akrasia25 Kivu Ebola epidemic nom. Ozzie10aaaa, under review by Casliber Diaphragmatic rupture nom. Steve M. Mihran Kassabian nom. Larry Hockett Sophie Jamal nom. Vaticidalprophet Menstrual cycle Undergoing FAR, contribute at talk. Alzheimer's disease Notice of impending FAR at talk. Major depressive disorder Notice of impending FAR at talk. Acute myeloid leukemia Notice of impending FAR at talk. Influenza Notice of impending FAR at talk. Autism Notice of impending FAR at talk.

News from around the site

• There is an ongoing drive to review good article nominations through the month of March. Pick up a review if you have time. Instructions here.
• The Medicine Collaboration of the Month is on temporary (perhaps) hiatus. You can still nominate future candidates at WP:MCOTM.
• This month's target maintenance backlog is "articles with a dead link". Each typically takes around a minute to fix, so please hit one or two when you have a moment.
• The desktop site's default "Vector" skin is being gradually modernized. Details here. Opt-in at Preferences>Skin preferences to begin getting used to the new look.

Discussions of interest

• A large discussion is reconsidering deprecating the aliases for some citation template parameters.
• Please look over edit-protected medicine pages to consider whether some could have protection levels safely lowered.

Discuss this issue

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Ajpolino (talk) 18:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Why revert?

Why did you revert my change? I fixed a typo https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Myanmar&oldid=prev&diff=1010840106&diffmode=source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corevette (talk • contribs) 04:49, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

― Tartan357 ^Talk 17:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

WP:ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Zin Win Hlaing (talk) 08:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

A note about recent ANIs

Hi Tartan. Just a note to let you know I left messages for Marcus MT and Zin Win Hlaing on their talk pages.

I hope this helps (I know its unlikely). Best wishes from Los Angeles,  // Timothy :: talk  14:08, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Marjorie Greene

I am not a supporter of Ms Greene. Far from it but did you see the following which was on talk for the article on her, which was very recently removed::

         "Actually I have checked the references 2 and 3 and some of the others. Apart from the lead nowhere in the article says she is a conspiracy theorist.Neither do the references I have checked. However the article does say she is a believer in and a promoter of conspiracy theories. This does not make her a conspiracy theorist. I think a theorist is one who composes a theory. To give another example: I believe in the Theory of Evolution but I am not an evolutionary theorist. The theorists were Charles Darwin,Alfred Wallace and (probabl;y)TH Huxley. If I write an article in support of the theory that does not make me a theorist unless I add some original thought to it. Should we change "far right conspiracy theorist" to "far right promoter of conspiracy theories?" Spinney Hill (talk) 11:12, 6 March 2021 (UTC) .

OK, I see what you are saying now, yes we could change it. Not sure its all that different.Slatersteven (talk) 11:18, 6 March 2021 (UTC) It still won't satisfy the fascists. Any more comments? Spinney Hill (talk) 11:35, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Of course not, she will still deny it, and decry being held accountable for her words. But we can't do anything about what Marjorie Taylor Greene says.Slatersteven (talk) 11:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)"

Do you dispute my definition of theorist or have you found a source which demonstrates she composed a theory? There was one which called her a theorist in the title but didnt live up to it in the text. She may be Q herself fo all I know but I have never seen anything to show it.Spinney Hill (talk) 09:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Spinney Hill, this is a content dispute and therefore belongs at article talk. There is a strong consensus to call her a conspiracy theorist established through a lot of discussion, and supported by the sources that overwhelmingly call her that. Guy Macon undid your edit un-archiving that discussion with the edit summary Your edit request was answered. The answer was "no", so it may not be advisable to re-open that discussion. However, article talk is the proper venue to continue this dispute if you wish to do that. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 16:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Per WP:EDITREQ; "Edit requests are requests for edits to be made to a page where editors cannot or should not make the proposed edits themselves. Requests should be accompanied by a clear and specific description of the requested change, and consensus should be obtained before requesting changes that are likely to be controversial". (Emphasis added). Spinney Hill made an edit request. Another editor answered that request., The answer was "no". This shows that the edit is likely to be controversial and thus that consensus should be obtained. It does not mean that the editor who answered no automatically wins. Spinney Hill is free to open up a new section and make their case.

In my opinion (and I may be wrong) Spinney Hill is insisting on a definition of "conspiracy theorist" that is at odds with common usage. The way it is commonly used it means someone who believes or promotes a conspiracy theory, not the creator of a conspiracy theory. If Spinney Hill seeks consensus for their version they are likely to get as an answer twenty or thirty reliable sources that call Marjorie Greene a conspiracy theorist (Google "Marjorie Greene" "conspiracy theorist" with the quotes) and a note saying that we call Greene what the sources call Greene whether we agree with the sources or not. They will also most likely get many more examples of high quality sources using the phrase "conspiracy theorist" to refer to someone who believes or promotes a conspiracy theory but is not the creator of the conspiracy theory. (Google "conspiracy theorist" with the quotes.) Nonetheless, I may be wrong and Spinney Hill is free to see if the consensus is with them. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:27, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

After an intial response of "no" I thought I had convinced the responding editor of my argument and there being no further response from anybody else I made the alteration. However I'm not going to press the point further.Spinney Hill (talk) 08:44, 15 March 2021 (UTC) Spinney Hill (talk) 08:56, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi!

What do you think about the recent addition of content in the Tatmadaw lead section? Seems as original research, synthesis, not written in NPOV way, even oversimplified (no mention of the way to socialism, for example), every link is renamed etc. Much better covered under the history section. For lead section maybe better to be said to The Tatmadaw has played a central role in Burmese politics since 1962 after the coup and then followed decades of the military rule etc. Some like that. Thank you. 109.93.43.90 (talk) 16:50, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Alex Smith

Check the link below to see Alex Smith making all those edits to the Alex Smith wikipedia page. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LWzhZCvST0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteelerFan1933 (talk • contribs) 20:10, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Reverting edit on Rachel Levine's birth/former name

You undid my edit including Dr. Levine's birth name as 'unhelpful'. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rachel_Levine&oldid=1013116962 It is in no way shape or form 'unhelpful' to have the birth name. I don't feel I need to justify this, as this is an encyclopedia and not a forum of opinion, but I followed the format of not only wikipedia articles with folks that have changed their names, but also with people who have themselves transitioned. For instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caitlyn_Jenner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Page

Wikipedia, as a source of information, warrants (demands) objectivity. This is the whole purpose of its existence: to "...present a neutrally written summary of existing mainstream knowledge in a fair and accurate manner with a straightforward, just-the-facts style".

Would 'formerly Richard Levine' be more appropriate?

Opertinicy (talk) 04:28, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Opertinicy, see MOS:DEADNAME, which I already directed you to. This page has a near-continuous influx of disruption over this exact issue (people deadnaming Levine, which is often used as a form of harassment of trans people), and there are many warnings against doing exactly what you did, including one in the article text that you chose to ignore. I won't entertain any further discussion about this with you. If you wish to change the guideline, take it up at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography. Continuing to violate MOS:DEADNAME would be grounds for arbitration enforcement sanctions. Also, I never used the word "unhelpful" to describe your edit. Please don't fabricate quotations. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 05:05, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

You said something to the effect that her birth name wasn't contributing to the article. Regardless, I opened a conflict resolution on this. Welcome to participate if you'd like
Opertinicy (talk) 05:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Administrative sanctions

I did not think including the future Assistant Secretary for Health of the United States's birth name was remotely controversial. There is no instance whatsoever of her being opposed to her birth name being public (and there's evidence to the contrary). I also think it's very important to normalize folks who have transitioned, especially in an encyclopedia. Regardless, I should've exercised better judgement and not have undone your undo on the edit, and should rather have engaged in a meaningful discourse through the traditional channels (e.g. the Talk page). For that I apologize and don't wish this to be an administrative issue

Best,
Opertinicy (talk) 01:14, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you for your gracious welcome. (From looking at your page, there's a chance we've actually met before!) I've been a Wikipedian for over 9 years, and I enjoy it very much. I appreciate the work you do to keep this site the jewel it is! Benintogo (talk) 02:22, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - April 2021

Issue 11—April 2021

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter

Here is what's happening around the project:

Newly recognized content

Influenza removed from the featured article review list thanks largely to Velayinosu's work. Friedreich's ataxia nom. Akrasia25, reviewed by Ajpolino Kivu Ebola epidemic nom. Ozzie10aaaa, reviewed by Casliber

Nominated for review

Mihran Kassabian nom. Larry Hockett Sophie Jamal nom. Vaticidalprophet Northwestern Memorial Hospital nom. Andrew nyr XXYY syndrome nom. Vaticidalprophet CT scan nom. Iflaq Tetrasomy Xnom. Vaticidalprophet Menstrual cycle Undergoing FAR, contribute at talk. Upcoming FARs: Alzheimer's disease, Major depressive disorder, Acute myeloid leukemia, Autism. Contribute to discussions at their talk pages.

News from around the site

• As part of the Talk pages project, the reply and new discussion tools have been released as beta features. You can enable them at Special:Preferences.
• This month's maintenance backlog is articles marked as too technical. Please help clarify these pages for non-specialists.
• Longtime medicine editor, administrator, and tech-wiz RexxS has retired – hopefully temporarily – following an arbitration case. Among other things, RexxS has long advocated improving Wikipedia's accessibility for readers with disabilities. You can help in that regard by reminding yourself of the contents of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility and learning to write alt text for images.

Discussions of interest

• Template:Authority control is getting a redesign. Contribute to the discussion here.
• A large discussion is reconsidering deprecating the aliases for some citation template parameters.
• Please look over edit-protected medicine pages to consider whether some could have protection levels safely lowered.

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Template:Globalize/name

Hello, I just wanted to tell you that the edit you made a few months ago at {{Globalize/name}} broke categorization for about a thousand articles. I don't blame you in any way, only template editors should have had access to editing that page and you weren't expected to know about it. If you want to edit templates (even just semiprotected ones) it's usually best to ask on the talk page first and test the changes. This process make sure that the change is technically sound and has consensus. I hope I didn't woory you too much, it was just an honest mistake. Happy editing! --Trialpears (talk) 09:24, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Trialpears, look at test case #2. It says: The examples and perspective in this article deal primarily with United States. That's grammatically incorrect again. How can we fix this? ― Tartan357 ^Talk 13:32, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

{{Globalize/name}} has logic to both provide a display-name and a category-name. It used to work with the United States before another edit almost a year ago broke it by only updating one of the sections. I've now put some inline comments to remind editors to make sure both parts work properly and updated the documentation. Hopefully that should make sure there aren't any problems in the future. Thanks for finding this! --Trialpears (talk) 20:02, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

2024 United States presidential election

Hello, since consensus wasn't established to only include non-portrait images in the "Candidates" section I have decided to replace Biden's photo with the recent portrait photo of him, however, I do agree with your statement in the edit summary so thanks for letting me know. If you want me to, I can restore the page to the version before my edit. Vacant0 (talk) 21:18, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Vacant0, yes, thank you! ― Tartan357 ^Talk 21:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

No problem. My edit was a mistake, so again, thanks for letting me know! Vacant0 (talk) 21:22, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Committee Representing Pyidaungsu Hluttaw

I must protest your undoing of my edit for Committee Representing Pyidaungsu Hluttaw.

If 17 members from the US senate and house of representative decides that they now represent the US government, I am certain you would agree that such representation is inaccurate, misleading, and not neutral as per the WP:NPOV.

My first part of the edit is that the organization is "self-proclaimed" because CRPH cannot claim to represent all the 476 elected seats. They can represent themselves and speak for themselves. The 476 elected members did not elect the 17 members in the CRPH. My second part of the edit also follows the same logic. The National League for Democracy received 396 seats in the 2020 elections. The current article has no supporting documentation or references that 15 members represent the 396 elected seats, as well as the party. The third part of the edit provides the numbers of elected seats in the 2020 election as well as the link to the results of the election.

Therefore, I ask that you reconsider the neutrality of the article, my edits, and the existing sources on the article prior to my edits to see if they are supported. Xanekka (talk) 23:18, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Xanekka, This is a content dispute and therefore belongs at article talk, not my user talk page. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 23:27, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

2024 election

Ah, sorry for bothering you. I saw my edit being reversed. I can understand Adam Kinzinger, but I definitely can't understand Mike Pence. He has publicly expressed interest, not by saying it but by what he has been doing. Publishing a political memoir, starting a PAC, and among other things. So I get Adam Kinzinger, there is nothing indicating that he will run for president or even senator in 2022 or 2024 but Mike Pence has definitely publicly expressed interest based on his recent activities. Yes, you may think this belongs on the 2024 election talk page but I couldn't get there, so I came to your talk page.

From, Countryintheworld/only person who would vote for George HW Bush 3 times in a row (1980,1988,1992) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Countryintheworld (talk • contribs) 00:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Countryintheworld, the issue is that you did not cite a source for either change. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 00:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh, thats why, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Countryintheworld (talk • contribs) 00:58, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Infobox

Hello, I want to discuss with you on CRPH or UNG. Yes, CRPH is a government in exile! However some ministers appointed by CRPH, Why don't you agree to add their Office roles to Infobox? Wikipedia allowed to add their office role to infobox even that are not political office or unofficial political role, e.g "CEO of Facebook" or "Director of Myanmar Economic Holding". Your action is not fair on this case (IMO). I know you are one of the respected editors for political issue on Wikipedia. To be fair, I would like to suggest we should add their office role in Infobox like this "Minister of Education of National Unity Government of Myanmar" or NUG's Minister of Education" or Minister of Education of CRPH" ??; not like "Minister of Education of Myanmar; this one we should use for current political power holder Min Aung Hlaing's cabinet. Sorry for my noob English. Please kindly consider by WP:NPOV Best regards. 185.205.142.76 (talk) 16:19, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm fine with adding infobox titles with the kind of equivocation you're suggesting, i.e. "of the National Unity Government of Myanmar". Listing them as holders as those offices unqualified would be misleading. Your English is good. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 03:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

On WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE

Hello, I have requested speedy deletion for my own Essay on WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE because it is already covered by WP:NG. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 04:59, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Username policy

Regarding this, StrexCorp is a fictional company from Welcome to Night Vale, so this isn't a violation of the username policy. I've removed the hidden category labeling it as a potential violation and just wanted to give you a heads up. Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 22:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Queering Wikipedia 2021 User Group Working Days: May 14–16

The Wikimedia LGBTQ+ User Group is holding online working days in May. As a member of WikiProject LGBT studies, editing on LGBTQ+ issues or if you identify as part of the LGBTQ+ community, come help us set goals, develop our organisation and structures, consider how to respond to issues faced by Queer editors, and plan for the next 12 months.

We will be meeting online for 3 half-days, 14–16 May at 1400–1730 UTC. While our working language is English, we are looking to accommodate users who would prefer to participate in other languages, including translation facilities.

More information, and registration details, at QW2021.--Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group 02:58, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

List of female United States presidential and vice-presidential candidates: Difference between revisions

There is nothing wrong grammatically with using women/woman versus female. A female can be any sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs. A woman is a human being. Momayh01 (talk) 13:01 May 7 2021 — Preceding undated comment added 18:02, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Momayh01, I never said it was grammatically incorrect. Nor have I claimed women are not human beings—that's a ridiculous statement. But "female" is used in the title of the article and is more consistent with a formal encyclopedic tone. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 18:41, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Tartan357, I was merely stating my reasoning for the change and have asked Wikipedia to update the header. If "female" is "more consistent with a formal encyclopedic tone," why aren't there any similar "male" pages? Why aren't the men referred to as the "46th male president"? Shall those pages be updated as well? Trying to get a baseline so they're all equal. Momayh01 (talk) 13:53 May 7 2021

Momayh01, Every president has been male, so there's no reason to make that distinction. I don't see us talking about a "man" president either, so I fail to see how that's even relevant. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 19:03, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	You helped me understand my mistakes in editing. PbesartBekteshi (talk) 15:47, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

2024 Green

Why is the fec not considerd a primary source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nat3679 (talk • contribs) 15:37, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Nat3679, The FEC is considered a primary source, which is why it was inappropriately used to source the existence of a presidential campaign. See WP:PRIMARY. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 15:41, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

That election-conspiaracy-promoting IP

Gaelan, this is obvious vandalism in the form of a deliberate factual error, not a good-faith failure to source content. Trump lost this election, and this IP knows that. We should not entertain this nonsense. I've added the appropriate warning template below.

Fair enough. I have a habit of assuming good faith well past where it's a good idea, and this was probably one of those cases. Thanks. Gaelan 💬✏️ 05:54, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Gaelan, I certainly admire the commitment to AGF. I've been reverting these edits and making AIV reports ever since the election, and it's made me a bit jaded. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 06:00, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Kim infoboxes

They are the same. I know. I've created nearly every article on Template:Supreme People's Assembly. I know the institution, laws and history of each one. NDC and SAC are for all practical purposes the same. Its no the CPC and the NDC in the 1990s. --Ruling party (talk) 05:49, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Ruling party, content issues belong on article talk, not user talk. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 05:51, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

2020 election

Shouldn't we change the turnout percentage at least now, 7 months after the election? –– User [StarkGaryen]

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - June 2021

Issue 12—June 2021

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter

No newsletter last month means a double issue this month. Enjoy:

Newly recognized content

Menstrual cycle saved at FAR thanks to the efforts of Graham Beards and others. Tetrasomy X nom. Vaticidalprophet, reviewed by JackFromReedsburg XYYY syndrome nom. Vaticidalprophet, reviewed by MeegsC CT scan nom. Iflaq, reviewed by Bibeyjj Imprinted brain hypothesis nom. Vaticidalprophet, reviewed by Lee Vilenski Diaphragmatic rupture nom. Aeschylus, reviewed by Bibeyjj Pentasomy X nom. Vaticidalprophet, reviewed by Bibeyjj Shellfish allergy nom. David notMD, reviewed by CommanderWaterford Sophie Jamal nom. Vaticidalprophet, reviewed by Premeditated Chaos Mihran Kassabian nom. Larry Hockett, reviewed by Amitchell125 Northwestern Memorial Hospital nom. Andrew nyr, reviewed by Sammi Brie

Nominated for review

Trisomy X nom. Vaticidalprophet, under review by Epicgenius Hepatic hydrothorax nom. Aeschylus Tetrasomy X and Deep vein thrombosis are both listed for peer review to prepare for FAC. Please contribute. Upcoming FARs: Alzheimer's disease, Major depressive disorder, Acute myeloid leukemia, Autism. Contribute to discussions at their talk pages.

News from around the site

• The Medicine collaboration of the month is back with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. Please head to its talk page to coordinate improvements.

Discussions of interest

• The redesign of the {{Authority control}} template continues. Contribute here.
• Please consider looking over edit-protected medicine pages to consider whether some could have protection levels safely lowered.

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Libertarian Party (United States)

Thanks for the correction. This whole situation is super confusing and, to speak colloquially, a complete shitshow.

LNC meeting in 15 minutes, see ya there! Curbon7 (talk) 00:45, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Ken Moellman (the vice chair) is acting chair now, I think. Curbon7 (talk) 01:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Curbon7, it appears he is. JBH's resignation was to take effect once the NH disaffiliation ballot closed, and that may have already happened. Regardless, content on Wikipedia must be verifiable, so we need to wait until this page is updated before we update the article. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Curbon7, I found this press release, which will allow us to update the article. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 03:35, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Curbon7, it turns out my initial inclination was correct. JBH's resignation didn't take effect until the NH ballot closed today. Moellman chaired the meeting last night because JBH was absent. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:44, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

2020 Myanmar General Election

Hello. I saw that my edit to the page had been taken down. I had thought that the sentence "the Myanmar military had falsely claimed that the election was fraudulent" was biased, so I changed it to "the military declared the election invalid" to make it seem neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.60.89.252 (talk) 16:53, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

There's nothing biased about that statement. It's true. Avoiding stating the truth to make the military's actions seem better would be biased. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 17:00, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

RCV Format?

Hi, you mentioned "We have a template for ranked choice elections, and we should use it" - I have not seen the template you point to? All other NYC RCV results use the template I posted, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_New_York_City_Council_election#District_15

Can you point me to the template you're talking about? I think the original table is more informative than the 1st-round/future-round version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artoonie (talk • contribs) 23:27, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Artoonie, It's the template that was already there that you deleted. And you did not use a template, you added a custom table. The template is Template:Election box ranked choice begin. It maintains a manageable width. If there are issues with that template, it should be changed. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 23:35, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I believe we are moving the conversation here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2021_New_York_City_mayoral_election#Table_for_Results Artoonie (talk) 00:07, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - July 2021

Issue 12—June 2021

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter

Newly recognized content

Trisomy X nom. Vaticidalprophet, reviewed by Epicgenius

Nominated for review

Trisomy X nom. Vaticidalprophet CYP4F2 nom. Maxim Masiutin Hepatic hydrothorax nom. Aeschylus Vitamin B6 nom. David notMD Transmission of COVID-19 nom. Almaty Deep vein thrombosis is listed for peer review to prepare for FAC. Please contribute. Alzheimer's disease is at featured article review.

News from around the site

• Lung cancer will feature on the Main Page as Today's Featured Article on August 4th. Anything you can do to improve/update the article before then would be a big help to the many readers likely to see the page on that date.
• The Books namespace will be deprecated and its contents deleted. All books have been moved to subpages of Wikipedia:Books/archive so that they can be undeleted upon request after the namespace is gone. There are around two dozen medicine-related books (14 tagged with WP:MED). If you wish to keep any, you are welcome to move it to your userspace.

Discussions of interest

• An ongoing discussion at WP:MEDRS considers the first few sentences of the MEDRS lead.

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Invitation to a RfC on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referendums

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Orphaned non-free image File:LP Nevada logo.jpg

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So the leadership page of LPPA.org was updated to reflect the officer change. is our party website not considered a reliable source, and if so, I am confused as to why the first edits I made to the page after the convention were accepted.

Steve

FWIW

Left a note at MOS:INFOBOX, concerning the RFC at MOS:BIO. Since it involves infoboxes. GoodDay (talk) 03:06, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer

Thanks for answering my question at the capitalisation discussion. That made the penny drop as to what you meant. Nurg (talk) 06:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

History repeating itself.

Months ago, I fear mongered that an editor from WP:JOBTITLES, would seek to decapitalize jobtitles in infoboxes of political bios and/or delete ordinals. At that time, nobody would take me seriously. GoodDay (talk) 21:52, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

GoodDay, I'm not sure what an editor from WP:JOBTITLES is supposed to mean. But yes, it's reasonable to expect that editors will attempt to implement our guidelines. This virulent hatred you have for JOBTITLES is perplexing. It's a community-established guideline. Please calm down. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 21:55, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

You'll see. It's a growing monster that you'll not be able to control. GoodDay (talk) 22:05, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Somehow, I think I'll manage to survive. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Application of MOS:JOBTITLES

Hi Tartan357. I'm trying to get my head around the 3rd bullet point about capitalisation at MOS:JOBTITLES. You seem to have a clear understanding of it. Would you care (no obligation though) to opine on which of the following examples have president/President capitalised correctly or incorrectly according to MOS:JOBTITLES (and, of course, general grammar), and why.

• Richard Nixon, president of the United States, resigned on August 9, 1974.
• Richard Nixon, President of the United States, resigned on August 9, 1974.
• Richard Nixon, 37th president of the United States, resigned on August 9, 1974.
• Richard Nixon, 37th President of the United States, resigned on August 9, 1974.

Thanks, Nurg (talk) 01:06, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Nurg, sure, I'd be happy to. The first one is incorrect, as president is unmodified, denoting a title rather than an office. The last one is incorrect, as President is modified by 37th, denoting an office. Note that "the" would also count as a modifier. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:10, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Threshold line at 2021 California gubernatorial recall election

I have reverted your revert. The consensus at the talk page was to add that line. Banana Republic (talk) 19:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:LP Pennsylvania logo.png

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WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - August 2021

Issue 12—August 2021

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter

Newly recognized content

Nothing this month Please help review articles when you have time.

Nominated for review

Trisomy X nom. Vaticidalprophet Hepatic hydrothorax nom. Aeschylus Vitamin B6 nom. David notMD Transmission of COVID-19 nom. Almaty, under review by Aircorn Atul Gawande nom. BennyOnTheLoose C. Edmund Kells nom. Larry Hockett Clarence Lushbaugh nom. Tpdwkouaa, under review by Larry Hockett Slipping rib syndrome nom. TheRibinator Charles Lester Leonard nom. Larry Hockett, under review by Dracophyllum Subglottic stenosis nom. aeschylus Deep vein thrombosis is listed for peer review to prepare for FAC. Please contribute. Alzheimer's disease is a featured article removal candidate.

News from around the site

• We have a bit of a backlog of good article nominations. Please help improve these articles by reviewing one if you have time. Instructions here.
• WP:URFA/2020 is reviewing and updating FAs that were promoted long ago. Several medicine-related FAs are on the list. Noting current work below. Feel free to jump in and help wherever you're interested:
  • Acute myeloid leukemia (promoted in 2006) is getting a thorough update led by Tom (LT) and Spicy. Help is welcome.
  • Influenza (promoted in 2006) was updated by Velayinosu and is awaiting review.
  • Lung cancer (promoted in 2007) was updated by Axl, Graham Beards, and JenOttawa in preparation for a now-aborted run as WP:TFA.
  • Autism (2007 promotion) and Major depressive disorder (2008 promotion) have requests for featured article reviews on their talk pages.
  • I believe the oldest unreviewed medicine-related FAs are Michael Woodruff (2006 promotion), Bacteria (2006 promotion), and Coeliac disease (2008 promotion). These are likely to receive some attention soon.

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Will Parker info

Hello why have you deleted Will Parker info as one of the independent candidates for mayor in the general election? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:547:500:cf00:8896:1b03:1228:61d6 (talk) 02:01, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Because no source is cited for that information. The source that is cited about him just says he failed to qualify for the Democratic primary. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:07, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I've done the research and re-added him with a source. Please cite sources when adding information in the future. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Will Parker is on the ballot for the 2021 general election. restore his info as previously displayed or i will delete everything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:547:500:cf00:8896:1b03:1228:61d6 (talk) 02:14, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I just told you above, I did the research and added him. That was a courtesy; you can't demand people do your research for you on Wikipedia. You will be blocked if you continue to add unsourced content or blank sections. Threats will not get you far here. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:19, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Keep up the great work! Knabb215 (talk) 22:19, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

SAC

Hi

Do you have a source? He is still listed as chairman in juta's website. --Panam2014 (talk) 01:14, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Panam2014, there is literally a source cited in that diff you linked. And I'll take Reuters over a junta website any day. They probably just haven't updated it yet. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 02:29, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Chairman of SAC

According to the official website of Tatmadaw, Min Aung Hlaing still hold the position, Chairman of SAC.His current positions are: Prime Minister, Chairman of SAC and Commander in Chief of Defence Services.Only 14 State and Region Administration Councils, sub-councils of State Administration Council are dissolved and formed as State and Region Governments on 1 August 2021[1].State Administration Council does not dissolved and Min Aung Hlaing too remains in that position.Only the Management Committee[2] was transformed into a caretaker government.See this source published on 11 August 2021, you can see that he still hold the position, Chairman of SAC. Kantabon (talk) 10:59, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Kantabon, looks like you are correct. Thank you for finding a source. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 11:01, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Ghani left Afghanistan

Ghani left Afghanistan per TOLOnews. --Saqib (talk) 13:31, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

You are engaged in edit war

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Please do not revert my edits that are supported by verifiable sources and please do not add more content to page that you have any source to support it. Please go to talk page of article you are involved to resolve multiple issues you are involved. Loesorion (talk) 23:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Loesorion, you adding, unreferenced, that Ghani has been succeeded by his VP is a major WP:BLP violation, and I'm warning you, you will end up at WP:AE if you continue down this path. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 23:47, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

I have added source to constitution of Afghanistan that clearly describes who is successor in case of absent president. And I have added secondary sources in Talk page that support Afghan constitution link is reliable source and that I have used it accordingly as it is written in constitution that Vice president is new president in charge if president is absent. That is how is done legally according to Afghan constitution and he became president because of that same constitution he swore oath to defend it and not because some other source in internet or news or something else in life. In same time you added that he is "government in exile" unsupported by any source. My path is to be good editor of Wikipedia pages that uses sources and edit pages and articles without misusing Wikipedia policies to prevent edits by others for sake of prevention's. Loesorion (talk) 00:05, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Presdent of Afghanistan

What comments? Can you point me to them, as I didn't see any comments related to how the word President should be properly spelled. As a point of reference the letter P in President should always be capitalized. I was not changing anything else. I am reverting your edit back. YborCityJohn (talk) 04:28, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

YborCityJohn, the comment directly after "president of Afghanistan" explaining that MOS:JOBTITLE should be followed. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 04:55, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

We have a problem

Now that Amrullah Saleh has (correctly, in my view, at least legally speaking) proclaimed himself acting President of Afghanistan, we have a problem: legally the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan continues to exist, though de facto it only controls one province. So, which is the legal government of Afghanistan? The Republic or the Emirate?-Karma1998 (talk) 23:02, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Karma1998, hi. You're welcome to join the discussion at Talk:President of Afghanistan. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 23:10, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

That the Aghan articles are a tad messed up right now, would be an understatement. GoodDay (talk) 01:31, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

GoodDay, the same could be said for the country itself, unfortunately. It can't really be helped. :/ ― Tartan357 ^Talk 01:32, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Please stop spamming my talk page

Please stop spamming my talk page with citing rules you do not follow or just follow parts you like. You have talk pages of relevant articles, you should have used them for discussion about relevant topics and in their Talk pages as there is a section about edits(or open a new section) and there try to explain your attitudes towards my edits that are done according to Wikipedia rules - you only read and use part of rules you like, that is not how is done. Loesorion (talk) 21:29, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Politics of Afghanistan

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Still waiting...

You still haven't answered my question. If I delete those notices (even though they're not canvassing), will you withdraw your report on me? GoodDay (talk) 00:54, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

GoodDay, withdrawn. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 20:52, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

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Presidential Posts of Myanmar

As I mentioned before , both vice Presidents still hold their offices . The State media of the military regime announced that they are doing the State responsibility as defacto head of government and not as head of state due to the constitution . By the time they accomplished their duties of state of emergency, they will report to the acting president and acting president will again handed power to an elected members according to the result of upcoming 2023 General Election. Please kindly check the constitution of the Republic of the Union of Myanmar (2008 ) . Thanks for contributing. LingThukhaShwe (talk) 03:27, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

@LingThukhaShwe: Please provide reliable sources for your claims. ― Tartan357 ^Talk 03:28, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Vice Presidents and Speaker of Union Parliament still hold their posts :https://bbc.in/2Zxyhzh

Vice president was declared as a acting president of Myanmar in the National Defence and Security Council meeting on 1st February, 2021 http://burmese.dvb.no/archives/438307

I would like to advice you to read the 2008 constitution Artice 410-421 . LingThukhaShwe (talk) 03:37, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

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Non-notable offices in infoboxes

Hello user, looks like we have a general disagreement on the topic of infoboxes for officeholders. I will concede, I was mistaken on removing the Member of the Libertarian National Committee from the infobox for Whitney Bilyeu. Now, for Jeff Hewitt (politician), his mayorship, and certainly his position on the city council, is unquestionably not notable (yes, I am invoking WP:NOTE here). If he did not hold a significant position within the Libertarian party, and did not hold an elected county position within the fourth most populous county in the state of California, then he would not have a Wikipedia page. Calimesa, California, barely has 10,000 residents. Many many, many, users would argue that just being the mayor and a city councilmember of a town that small would fail notability under WP:POLITICIAN. That's why his predecessor and successor do not have their own Wikipedia pages. If the position is not notable on it's own, then why include it in the infobox? I am being consistent with several infoboxes across several officeholder BLP pages.
A simple test. Looking at the populations of all California cities, let's take the immediate three more populous cities after Calimesa: Valley Center, California, Corte Madera, California, and Citrus, California. Lo and behold, their respective mayors, Lou Cicirello[3], Eli Beckman[4], and Steve Miller[5], all do not have Wikipedia pages, and I'm sure that they're fellow councilmembers don't either. Why? I'm sure it's because they are not notable or users haven't created their articles yet (99% likely the former). I'm just following consistency here on notability.
I know you created the article, but you don't own the article. --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 22:13, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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Mike Gravel categorization

"...should be moved to subcategories where applicable" isn't the same as a container category as you're implying. If you have the time to mindlessly diffuse a parent category which doesn't necessarily need diffusing, well, bully for you, I guess. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 08:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

@RadioKAOS: Do you have an actual objection to putting him into the Virginia category (which is applicable)? Or are you just feeling revert-happy and belligerent today? ― Tartan357 ^Talk 08:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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Be happy, you won. If someone makes threats instead of arguments and / or sources, then he is the the only one. holder of the supreme truth. And to oppose such a person is a waste of time. Anyway, the one who is wiser yields first. Bogdan Uleia (talk) 09:44, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

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