Talk:Tech/News

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"Private Relay" could be wikified to w:Private Relay.[edit]

Apokrif (talk) 22:43, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[]

@Apokrif: Hi. We wanted to enable the translators to be able to link to detailed content, which isn't currently available in all languages on Wikipedia, but is available in many languages on Apple's website. Hence the link wasn't wrapped in a "tvar" and I specifically encouraged the translators to localize it. (e.g. The French translation, Tech/News/2021/39/fr, linked to https://support.apple.com/fr-fr/HT212614). I hope that info helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Extract fixed parts of Tech News to a template[edit]

Hey! Recently, during the Tech News translation I've came up with an idea to extract the fixed parts of the page to templates. In my opinion (though I'm not an experienced translator here, so I may be wrong), this will make the translators' job easier. Nowadays, I need to re-type (or select from the "similar translations" section) the whole invitation, footer and headings even though they are standard and don't change across Tech News issues.

Those templates could be translated once and then included to TN issues no matter whether the rest was translated before delivery to wikis. This way, the "translations are available" link will be useful for those who don't speak English.

Am I right or there are downsides of such a proposal? Greetings, Msz2001 (talk) 20:01, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Msz2001: Hi, thanks for the suggestion, and for helping with translations! This problem has recently been discussed at Talk:Tech/News/init (the top 2 long sections). The short summary: It isn't currently possible to use templates within MassMessages, but we are discussing alternatives/options, in the hopes of making things easier for regular translators and also more useful for readers in languages that are only occasionally translated. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:16, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[]

include instead of copy, easier subscribe[edit]

would it be possible to include the tech news section into the talk page instead of copying it over? this might trigger more and better translations. because the publication triggers people to look at it, and with it help translating. also, if you would add a "subscribe" button into the title of talk pages for others easier finding it. --ThurnerRupert (talk) 09:56, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@ThurnerRupert: Hi. I'm not sure what exactly you are suggesting.
1) I think you might be suggesting some sort of cross-wiki transclusion, from the central location here; however that is not technically possible at the moment.
Or you might be suggesting that we should transclude the translations from a centralized page on each wiki; but that would result in every project+language needing to have a separate translation (Dewiktionary, Dewikivoyage, etc), and it would also result in people not being Notified about a new talkpage message.
If people just want to have a copy of the delivered MassMessage displayed on a page, but without getting notifications/watchlist-entries about updates, that is possible, and 4 wikis have a setup to make it work (d:Q21899408). But that doesn't help for centralizing/sharing the efforts of translators...
2) I'm also not sure what you are suggesting regarding the "subscribe" button. There is currently the link in the footer of the MassMessage for people to subscribe/unsubscribe. I would be hesitant about adding a duplicate link, especially in the ==section-title== (if that's what you mean?).
Please let me know if any of that helps, or if you can clarify your suggestions a bit more. Thanks, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:41, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]