Wikipedia:Requested moves
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. (For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.)
Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move: a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- Unregistered users and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will enact the request. If not, the request may be re-listed to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space – (new/unconfirmed users only) add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no discussion (especially no recent discussion) about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with such a move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
Requesting technical moves
If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct page if you tried to move a page, and you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:".
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- To list a technical request: Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the top of the list, filling in pages and reason:
{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new page title|reason=reason for move}}
This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page. the - If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
- If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.
Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
Administrator needed
Contested technical requests
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves
The discussion process is used for potentially controversial moves. A move is potentially controversial if either of the following applies:
- there has been any past debate about the best title for the page;
- someone could reasonably disagree with the move.
Use this process if there is any reason to believe a move would be contested. For technical move requests, such as to correct obvious typographical errors, see Requesting technical moves. The technical moves procedure can also be used for uncontroversial moves when the requested title is occupied by an existing article.
Do not create a new move request when one is already open on the same talk page. Instead, consider contributing to the open discussion if you would like to propose another alternative. Multiple closed move requests may be on the same page, but each should have a unique section heading.
Do not create a move request to rename one or more redirects. Redirects cannot be used as current titles in requested moves.
Requesting a single page move
To request a single page move, click on the "New section" tab of the talk page of the article you want moved, without adding a new subject/header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.}}
Replace NewName
with the requested new name of the page (or with a simple question mark, if you want more than one possible new name to be considered). The template will automatically create the heading "Requested move 15 October 2021" and sign the post for you.
There is no need to edit the article in question. Once the above code is added to the Talk page, a bot will automatically add the following notification at the top of the article:
![]() | A request that this page title be changed is under discussion. Please do not move this page until the discussion is closed. |
Note: Unlike other request processes on Wikipedia, such as Requests for comment, nominations need not be neutral. Make your point as best you can; use evidence (such as Google Ngrams and pageview statistics) and refer to applicable policies and guidelines, especially our article titling policy and the guideline on disambiguation and primary topics.
WikiProjects may subscribe to Article alerts to receive RM notifications. For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Article alerts/Requested moves is transcluded to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. RMCD bot notifies many of the other Wikiprojects listed on the talk page of the article to be moved to invite project members to participate in the RM discussion. Requesters should feel free to notify any other Wikiproject or noticeboard that might be interested in the move request, as long as this notification is neutral.
Single page move on a different talk page
Occasionally, a move request must be made on a talk page other than the talk page of the page to be moved. For example, a request to rename Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing and templates would need to take place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation because the talk page of the project page to be moved, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Resources, is a redirect to that centralized discussion page. In this type of case, the requested move should be made using the following code:
{{subst:requested move|reason=(the reason for the page move goes here).|current1=(present title of page to be renamed)|new1=(proposed title of page)}}
Note that the |1=
unnamed parameter is not used, and that the |current1=
and |new1=
parameters are used similar to multiple page moves described below.
Requesting multiple page moves
A single template may be used to request multiple related moves. On one of the talk pages of the affected articles, create a request and format it as below. A sample request for three page moves is shown here (for two page moves, omit the lines for current3 and new3). For four page moves, add lines for current4 and new4, and so on. There is no technical limit on the number of multiple move requests, but before requesting very large multi-moves, consider whether a naming convention should be changed first. Discuss that change on the talk page for the naming convention, e.g., Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople).
To request a multiple page move, edit at the bottom of the talk page of the article you chose for your request, without adding a new header, inserting this code:
{{subst:requested move
| current1 = Current title of page 1
| new1 = New title for page 1 with the talk page hosting this discussion
| current2 = Current title of page 2
| new2 = New title for page 2
| current3 = Current title of page 3
| new3 = New title for page 3
| reason = Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically.
}}
For example, to propose moving the articles Wikipedia
and Wiki
, put this template on Talk:Wikipedia
, and replace current2
with Wiki
. The discussion for all affected articles is held on the talk page of the article at page 1 (Talk:Wikipedia
). Do not sign a request with ~~~~
as the template does this automatically. Do not skip pairs of numbers.
RMCD bot automatically places a notice section on the talk page of the additional pages that are included in your request, advising that the move discussion is in progress, where it is, and that all discussion for all pages included in the request should take place at that one location.
Occasionally the discussions for significant multi-move requests may be hosted on WikiProject talk pages or other pages in Project namespace. For multi-move discussions hosted on a page which is not itself proposed to be moved, specify |current1=Current title of page 1
for the first page to move.
Request all associated moves explicitly
Please list every move that you wish to have made in your request. For example, if you wish to move Cricket (disambiguation) to Cricket because you do not believe the sport is the primary topic for the search term "Cricket", then you actually want to move two pages, both Cricket (disambiguation) and Cricket. Thus you must list proposed titles for each page affected by your request. For example, you might propose:
If a new title is not proposed for the sport, it is more difficult to achieve consensus for a new title for that article. A move request that does not show what to do with the material at its proposed target, such as:
is incomplete. Such requests may be completed as a request to decide the best new title by discussion.
- Cricket → ?
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Commenting on a requested move
All editors are welcome to contribute to the discussion regarding a requested page move. There are a number of standards that Wikipedians should practice in such discussions:
- When editors recommend a course of action, they write Support or Oppose in bold text, which is done by surrounding the word with three single quotes on each side, e.g.
'''Support'''
. - Comments or recommendations are added on a new bulleted line (that is, starting with *) and signed by adding
~~~~
to the end. Responses to another editor are threaded and indented using multiple bullets. - The article itself should be reviewed before any recommendation is made; do not base recommendations solely on the information supplied by other editors. It may also help to look at the article's edit history. However, please read the earlier comments and recommendations, as well as prior move requests. They may contain relevant arguments and useful information.
- Vested interests in the article should be disclosed per Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI.
When participating, please consider the following:
- Editors should make themselves familiar with the article titling policy at Wikipedia:Article titles.
- Other important guidelines that set forth community norms for article titles include Wikipedia:Disambiguation, specific naming conventions, and the manual of style.
- The debate is not a vote; please do not make recommendations that are not sustained by arguments.
- Explain how the proposed article title meets or contravenes policy and guidelines rather than merely stating that it does so.
- Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line.[a]
- Do not make conflicting recommendations. If you change your mind, use strike-through to retract your previous statement by enclosing it between <s> and </s> after the bullets, and de-bold the struck words, as in "•
SupportOppose".
Please remember that reasonable editors will sometimes disagree, but that arguments based in policy, guidelines, and evidence have more weight than unsupported statements. When an editor offers an argument that does not explain how the move request is consistent with policies and guidelines, a reminder to engage in constructive, on-topic discussion may be useful. On the other hand, a pattern of responding to requests with groundless opinion, proof by assertion, and ignoring content guidelines may become disruptive. If a pattern of disruptive behavior persists after efforts are made to correct the situation through dialogue, please consider using a dispute resolution process.
Closing a requested move
Any uninvolved editor in good standing may close a move request. Please read the closing instructions for information on how to close a move request. The Simple guide to closing RM discussions details how to actually close a requested move discussion.
Relisting a requested move
Relisting a discussion moves the request out of the backlog up to the current day in order to encourage further input. The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion. In general, discussions should not be relisted more than once before properly closing.[b] Users relisting a debate which has already been relisted, or relisting a debate with a substantial discussion, should write a short explanation on why they did not consider the debate sufficient to close. While there is no consensus forbidding participation in a requested move discussion after relisting it, many editors consider it an inadvisable form of supervote. If you want to relist a discussion and then participate in it, be prepared to explain why you think it was appropriate.
Relisting can be done using {{subst:relisting}}
, which automatically includes the relister's signature, and which must be placed at the very end of the initial request after the move requester's signature (and subsequent relisters' signatures). When a discussion has been relisted a bot partially underlines the "Discuss" link in the lists of debates: (Discuss).
When a relisted discussion reaches a resolution, it may be closed at any time according to the closing instructions; there is no required length of time to wait before closing a relisted discussion.
If discussion has become stale, or it seems that discussion would benefit from more input of editors versed in the subject area, consider more widely publicizing the discussion, such as by notifying WikiProjects of the discussion using the template {{RM notification}}. Banners placed at the top of the talk page hosting the move request can often be used to identify WikiProjects suitable for notification.
Notes
- ^ A nominator making a procedural nomination with which they may not agree is free to add a bulleted line explaining their actual position. Additional detail, such as sources, may also be provided in an additional bullet point if its inclusion in the nomination statement would make the statement unwieldy. Please remember that the entire nomination statement is transcluded into the list on this page.
- ^ Despite this, discussions are occasionally relisted more than once.
Current discussions
- This section lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.
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This list is also available in a page-link-first format and in table format. 44 discussions have been relisted, indicated by (Discuss)
October 15, 2021
- (Discuss) – Calculus One → Ximera – The topic of this is a MOOC system originated at Ohio State University which offered a course with the common name of Calculus One. That system used to be called MOOCulus and is now Ximera (pronounced "chimera"). User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 20:47, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Paulose II (Indian Orthodox Church) → Baselios Marthoma Paulose II – The article name about a person needs to be the full and correct name, not partial. Omitting part of the name and using only partial names could cause unnecessary conflicts/confusion. Just to clarify, 'Baselios Marthoma' is not an honorific prefix; it is part of the subject's name. In addition, using the full name would eliminate the need for unnecessary additions in parentheses to the article's heading just to distinguish the article from others. References: (1) World Council of Churches: https://www.oikoumene.org/news/wcc-celebrates-life-mourns-death-of-his-holiness-catholicos-baselios-marthoma-paulose-ii-of-the-malankara-orthodox-syrian-church-in-india , (2) Malankara Church official web page: https://mosc.in/catholicate/h-h-baselios-marthoma-paulose-ii , (3) A newspaper article about the subject's death: https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/kerala/2021/jul/13/baselios-marthoma-paulose-ii-always-stood-for-peace-2329290.html. Swordofcherubim (talk) 17:52, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Creature with the Atom Brain → Creature with the Atom Brain (band) – No indication that the six-sentence stub for the Belgian alternative rock band delineates a more-notable subject than 1955's Creature with the Atom Brain (film) from which the band took its name. Creature with the Atom Brain should be a disambiguation page listing the band and the film. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:50, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mental illness in fiction → Mental disorders in fiction – rename for consistency, Mental illness is a redirect to Mental disorder. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:39, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Confirmations of Barack Obama's Cabinet → Cabinet of Barack Obama – In line with similar articles for Biden and Trump. Article also covers significantly more than the confirmation process (e.g. tenure). DilatoryRevolution (talk) 16:20, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jointness and integration in the Indian military → Integrated Theatre Commands of the Indian Armed Forces – per WP:COMMONNAME and proposed name is very much similar to the name used in many reliable english media sources, like Economic Times, India Today, The Wire, Business World, Times Now, Indian Express SimonBiden (talk) 16:05, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sehwan Sharif → Sehwan – Common name per WP:COMMONNAME. JCPOA (talk) 14:41, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lombard Street → Lombard Street (disambiguation) – Cleary the one in London is primary, and does not need the DAB page. I'm led to believe that Google Maps in its infinite wisdom translates things like Rue into "street", it certainly does for most European places, so your SatNav ends up with nonsense like "Barcelona Road". The second entry, Rue des Lombards is not called "Lombard Street" by a London taxi-driver (won't go sarf of the river, not at this time o' night) or anyone else. The third entry, Petworth, has a picture capped "Lombard Street" but no more information about it. Funnily enough, H. Rochester Sneath came from "nr. Petworth" although he usually had his correspondence addressed to his sister. Not mentioned at article, absolutely no need for this DAB. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 11:09, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Saekano: How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend → Saekano – "How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend" is the series' subtitle, and a search reveals less than 1,000,000 Google hits for the full title. On the other hand, just "Saekano" without the subtitle gets around 2.6 million hits. On the other hand, many official sources such as licensor websites and ANN list the series under its full title. Should the article remain in the full title, or is the short form the more appropriate article title here? MOS:SUBTITLE suggests that the most common name should be used, while earlier discussion at WT:ANIME suggested that article titles of anime with subtitles should be decided on a case-by-case basis. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:09, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bacha Khan International Airport → Peshawar Airport – common name per WP:COMMONNAME JCPOA (talk) 10:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mali wedding airstrike → Bounti wedding airstrike – More specific on location rather than just Mali. What if another wedding airstrike happens in Mali. Garmin21 (talk) 15:48, 1 October 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 08:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2021 Kaohsiung tower fire → 2021 Kaohsiung apartment fire – This is not a tower, which is defined by Wikipedia as "a building that is taller than wide", however this building isn't technically a tower. While it is also referred to as a tower by some sources listed in the references section, it is also specified as an apartment (and is also called simply a building in some). Regardless of its definition, "tower" is also more ambiguous than "apartment", which better-specifies what this building is. Waddles 🗩 🖉 05:18, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dhuan (Smoke) → Dhuan (short story collection) – The present parentheses simply mean that "dhuan" means "smoke" in Hindi. That's not how Wikipedia uses parentheses. We don't need an explanation in the article title, that's what the text itself is for. This article could otherwise be moved to Dhuan, but that title is already taken by an unrelated film. The parentheses should disambiguate, not explain. If "short story collection" is too wordy, feel free to suggest a better title. JIP | Talk 02:26, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mobile Network Codes in ITU region 2xx (Europe) → Mobile network codes in ITU region 2xx (Europe) – Procedural conversion of {{cleanup title}} added by IPs in 2020 mostly without an edit summary to a formal requested move. The lowercase titles do seem to be more in accordance with Wikipedia's typical capitalization style. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:03, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
- Mobile Network Codes in ITU region 3xx (North America) → Mobile network codes in ITU region 3xx (North America)
- Mobile Network Codes in ITU region 4xx (Asia) → Mobile network codes in ITU region 4xx (Asia)
- Mobile Network Codes in ITU region 5xx (Oceania) → Mobile network codes in ITU region 5xx (Oceania)
- Mobile Network Codes in ITU region 6xx (Africa) → Mobile network codes in ITU region 6xx (Africa)
- Mobile Network Codes in ITU region 7xx (South America) → Mobile network codes in ITU region 7xx (South America)
- (Discuss) – List of National Roads in Latvia → List of national roads in Latvia – An IP added {{cleanup title}} to this page, suggesting a move to the lowercase form. Procedurally converting to a requested move. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:55, 15 October 2021 (UTC)}
- (Discuss) – Clement L. Davies → Clem Davies – This nomination is tangentially related to the concurrent Talk:Clement C. Davies#Requested move 14 October 2021. In this case, sources clearly confirm that, rather than Clement L. Davies, subject's WP:COMMONNAME was Clem Davies. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:25, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
October 14, 2021
- (Discuss) – Harry Einstein → Parkyakarkus – per WP:COMMONNAME. Wikipedia's main title headers for actors are their stage names, which in this case was "Parkyakarkus" (Parkyakarkus star on Hollywood Walk of Fame). Not a single film encyclopedia or film research tool lists him under "E" for "Einstein" — he is always alphabetized under "P" for the mononym "Parkyakarkus". Here is his listing at the American Film Institute Catalog and at Turner Classic Movies (TCM). In this film review AllMovie refers to him as Parkyakarkus and feels the need to explain that his real name was Harry Einstein. The header of his obituary in The New York Times calls him "Parkyakarkus" and his films credited him as Parkyakarkus (1945's Out of This World). For the past year, the main title header was Harry "Parkyakarkus" Einstein and I would also support such a name form if consensus can be found for it. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:59, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – New York City Subway → New York City subway – Case correction per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS in light of majority lowercase use in sentences in sources. Dicklyon (talk) 23:21, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – COVID-19 lockdown in Italy → First COVID-19 lockdown in Italy – This article's scope is currently just the first lockdown in February 2020. There have been subsequent lockdowns in Italy (https://www.forbes.com/sites/irenedominioni/2020/11/05/to-counter-second-coronavirus-wave-italy-goes-into-a-localized-lockdown/ and https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56621342), but this article has not been updated. As this is the first nationwide lockdown of the pandemic, the article could remain in its current form and be renamed as this lockdown is a notable historic event in its own right. Welcome thoughts. Arcahaeoindris (talk) 12:45, 7 October 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:45, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Whitehouse.gov → WhiteHouse.gov – Per here, the format used by the White House itself is WhiteHouse.gov. That formatting is clearer to readers, so I think we should adopt it as well. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:31, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Songololo → Songololo, Democratic Republic of the Congo – Most English-language search results for this name seem to be about a South African English name for millipedes, or something else entirely. The spelling variant Shongololo already redirects to Millipede. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:35, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Theo Hernandez → Theo Hernández – It's how the Real Madrid website spells Theo's name [1], the accent is also used from AC Milan recently and on both pages per external links, the accent is used there as well (footballdatabase.eu and bdfutbol.com. Theo also spells his name with an accent on his Instagram and per Google site search has his name with an accent underneath the pictures on the English language setting. Therefore, the family surname is mis-spelled. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:05, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Vishwaroopam → Vishwaroopam (2013 film) – While by the pageviews, this article is the most viewed, MOS:FILM asks to disambiguate films with the same name with year — DaxServer (talk to me) 18:03, 14 October 2021 (UTC) — DaxServer (talk to me) 18:03, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Clement C. Davies → Clement Davies – This page was moved without consensus, please move it back to Clement Davies —Charles Edward (Talk | Contribs) 18:01, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Islamic views on concubinage → Islamic views on sexual slavery – The page was born as a WP:POVFORK from Sexual slavery in Islam, presenting the exact same topic but using an apologetic title. Grufo (talk) 17:38, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Animal rights and the Holocaust → Animal cruelty and the Holocaust analogy – The proposed change of this article's name to "Animal cruelty and the Holocaust analogy" drew a positive reception when posited in a comment in the 25 September move request. I made this suggestion based on the use of analogous formats for other areas of contentious subject matter on Wikipedia. It would also pave the way for restructuring the article in terms of arguments in favour of and against the analogy. Framing the article in these terms would also be more precise and potentially less inflammatory or open to being misconstrued than the present title. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:23, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Christ myth theory → Jesus mythicism – In current popular usage "Jesus mythicism" is the most common terminology used. "Christ myth theory" has been deprecated (i.e. made obsolescent) in current popular usage. Per this talk §.Critics of the historicity of the Christ the christ (i.e. the lord of the Christian church) is a myth as held by virtually every secular person on the planet. To call someone a "Unicorn mythicist" for denying that Unicorns exist makes as much sense as to call someone a "Christ mythicist" for denying that Christs exist. WP policy is to name articles so as to distinguish them from similar sounding topics. WP policy is also to name articles with names appropriate to finding modern academic scholarship that engages with the topic's current academic debate and therefore cites modern scholarship. 2db (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – E1 (Jerusalem) → E1 (West Bank) – This isn't in Jerusalem, by all accounts it is in the West Bank. Jerusalem as a disambiguation makes no sense, West Bank or Palestinian territories make the most sense per WP:PLACEDAB (Places are often disambiguated by the country in which they lie, if this is sufficient). Per the further examples on disambiguating by state or province or whatever, and to avoid some rather pointless arguments about Palestinian territories or State of Palestine, I suggest West Bank as the disambiguation. Nableezy 14:38, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lucas Hernández → Lucas Hernández (footballer, born 1992) – Page name differs from Lucas Hernandez only by an accent on the a. Previous moves have given a consensus that this is not enough disambiguation. The other page of the French/Bayern Munich player is clear primary topic though. RedPatch (talk) 14:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – V&A Museum of Childhood → Young V&A – New name for the museum post-renovation, as per [2], [3]. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:42, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Charles Cavendish (general) → Charles Cavendish (general, died 1643) – Charles Cavendish (Nottingham MP) and Charles Cavendish, 3rd Baron Chesham were both generals, and I see nothing to suggest that this particular subject is due any predominance over the other two. Move this article and redirect the current title to the disambiguation page, Charles Cavendish. BD2412 T 05:56, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wiseguy → Wiseguy (TV series) – Pageviews are comparable to that of Wiseguy (book), therefore no primary topic. See here. 162 etc. (talk) 02:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Luis Peña → Luis Peña (actor) – Small bio of an actor who passed in 1977. No hits. The fighter consistenly got 50-80 views per day prior to the recent surge. The fighter should have "Luis Peña" as the page with the actor being in the hat note. Simple move, I think. Marty2Hotty (talk) 01:38, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
October 13, 2021
- (Discuss) – Byte (app) → Clash (app) – Byte didn't shut down, but rather, it renamed to Clash after it joined the "Clash family". The reason why I'm requesting this instead of moving the page myself right away is because I'd like everyone else's inputs before I move it. L33tm4n (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC) L33tm4n (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Biceps → Biceps brachii muscle – This was the name of the article page before it was changed a decade ago, and I believe it should return. Biceps is workout slang and isn't accurate as it can also refer to the Biceps femoris. While the common name is just Biceps, it isn't used in the medical community. For more reasons why the medical term should be used, see this discussion from when I proposed that Rectus abdominis should be just Abs. "Muscle" should be added back in too, per the consensus and WP:CONSISTENT, as all other muscle articles end with muscle. Invinciblewalnut (talk) 22:50, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Hill (wrestler) → Jerry Valiant – This move will provide natural disambiguation. Hill competed under multiple ring names but his highest profile run was perhaps as Jerry Valiant with the World Wide Wrestling Federation. McPhail (talk) 21:19, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hurricane Gordon (1994) → Hurricane Gordon – The 1994 Hurricane Gordon is clearly the primary topic. It did significantly more damage and killed more people than all of the other storms named "Gordon" in the North Atlantic, including every other Gordon that made it to hurricane status. The death toll of 1,122 is also significantly higher that what we see from most storms in the Atlantic hurricane basin in contemporary times. The pageviews for the 1994 storm shows that its article usually receives significantly more traffic than those of the other hurricanes with the same name. Sure, a couple of the other Gordons in the North Atlantic were also pretty significant for the areas they impacted (specifically, the 2006 and the 2018 storms), but none of the other storms come anywhere close to this storm in terms of overall significance. Also, the vast majority of mentions on "Hurricane Gordon" that I've seen in the media refer to the 1994 storm. Whenever I see an article referring to a "Hurricane Gordon" that referenced it as a strong candidate for retirement (without the year mentioned), it was always referring to the 1994 storm. Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:CONCISE, any storm that is clearly the primary topic should get the main title, without the year. The actual retirement status is irrelevant. While most of the retired storms are the respective primary topics, some of them clearly aren't. As such, I propose moving this article to "Hurricane Gordon." LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Aderlan Santos → Aderllan Santos – Player's correct name, per: Valencia, São Paulo and Vitória's official websites, and his official Instagram account. BRDude70 (talk) 20:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kapil Sharma (comedian) → Kapil Sharma – No need to disambiguish, he is very far more popular than other one, see page views PMGSMP (talk) 18:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Marge Simpson in: 'Screaming Yellow Honkers' → Marge Simpson in: "Screaming Yellow Honkers" – The quote mark convention in this article title differs from that in No More "I Love You's", while consistency would be desirable. There is a possible WP:QWQ aspect to be clarified by discussion, since the title of the Simpsons episode would normally be placed in quotes when referring to it but such outer quote marks are not used in the Wikipedia article title. See prior discussion at Talk:Marge Simpson in: 'Screaming Yellow Honkers'#Double or single quotation marks and Talk:No More "I Love You's"#Requested move 2 July 2021. The latter three of these four were renamed without discussion in May 2021. Another possibility for those three would be to just remove the punctuation marks altogether – they seem unnecessary. An alternative would be to move No More "I Love You's" to No More 'I Love You's'. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:49, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shilpi Sharma → Shilpi Sharma (born 1994) – or Shilpi Sharma (actress, born 1994), whichever is the usual Wikipedia convention. A different actress, who is currently described with the article title Shillpi Sharma, also seems to most commonly be referred to as "Shilpi Sharma". The article about the other actress attracts about three times the number of pageviews as this one. — BarrelProof (talk) 16:19, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lakhimpur Kheri massacre → Lakhimpur Kheri incident – Media/news sources use both 'incident' and 'massacre'. The incident itself has violence from both sides. Also, usage of the word such as 'terror' on one side, and that human rights shouldn't be selective from the other, points at this being highly charged and politicised. Wikipedia guideline and policies need to be kept in mind such as those dealing with sensationalism and opinions. All this points to a change in title. DTM (talk) 15:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Robert (son of William I of Sicily) → Robert III, Prince of Capua – The article was previously at this name, but it was moved on the grounds that there was no source for the number, but one can be found at List of Princes of Capua. PatGallacher (talk) 15:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bapu → Bapu (disambiguation) – Bapu should be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for Mahatma Gandhi for all practical reasons. Other subjects with Bapu name are not even close to Gandhi in matter of notability Appu (talk) 13:23, 2 October 2021 (UTC) Appu (talk) 13:23, 2 October 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Vpab15 (talk) 15:05, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Granada Cinema, Woolwich → Christ Faith Tabernacle Cathedral – Per WP:COMMONNAME. The church moved into the building in 2011 and has been holding regular services there since 2013 with their branding clearly displayed on the outside. I think most people now refer to it as the displayed name, Christ Faith Tabernacle Cathedral. In my opinion, keeping the article called Granada Cinema when it has not been a cinema for over 50 years is like if we called the article for The O2 as "Millennium Dome" as that was its original name. Kidburla (talk) 09:19, 2 October 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Vpab15 (talk) 15:03, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Who Really Cares (album) → Who Really Cares – only article with this name Jax 0677 (talk) 14:52, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – French ecologist primary presidential election 2021 → 2021 French Green Party presidential primary – "French ecologist" is too literal a translation; while French sources use French: primaire écologiste English sources almost universally refer to the "French Greens" or "French Green Party" - not sure which is better. Also re-ordered to match current style for election article naming. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 14:40, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gay pride → LGBTQ pride – Pride is about all of LGBTQ, not just gay people. Aalaa324 (talk) 17:01, 30 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 12:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Port Elizabeth → ? – Port Elizabeth was renamed to Gqberha. This is the name used by government services and local media. https://www.sowetanlive.co.za/sport/soccer/2021-09-12-royal-am-finally-win-their-first-match-in-the-premiership-hand-chippa-maiden-defeat/ https://www.news24.com/wheels/motorsport/gtc-heads-to-gqberha-with-title-battles-wide-open-20210525 https://www.enca.com/news/gqeberha-fire-businesses-and-vehicles-gutted https://www.dispatchlive.co.za/sport/2021-05-02-going-the-distance-sa-half-marathon-championship-in-gqeberha-reminds-us-of-former-glory-days/ https://mype.co.za/new/gqberha-in-the-news-22-may-2021/146973/2021/05/ African news articles were considered "unreliable" before. I think this is incorrect and these sources should be taken seriously. There is no reason African media would be inherently unreliable. Apologies for misspelling Gqeberha, Xhosa is not my first language. Desertambition (talk) 03:16, 30 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 11:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kennadi Brink → Jessika Carr – Her common name is Jessika Carr in PW sources since 2017 (when she signed with WWE). Her career as a referee in WWE is much more notable than her days as a wrestler in the independent circuit. She has appeared in many WWE PPVs and events as well as WWE weekly shows like NXT and SmackDown. She is an active referee as Jessika Carr while her last match as Kennadi Brink was in 2017. Mann Mann (talk) 11:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Francisco Hernández de Córdoba (Yucatán conquistador) → Expedition of Francisco Hernández de Córdoba (1517) – The article is about the expedition. There aren't any further biographical details about Francisco Hernández de Córdoba. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:31, 29 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 10:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Seán Patrick O'Malley → Seán O'Malley – It was successfully argued on the talk page of the fighter Sean O'Malley, that the Cardinal's common name was Seán O'Malley, and as a result the fighter's page was moved. If that's the case I don't see a reason why the Cardinal's page shouldn't be moved. ♡RAFAEL♡(talk) 10:28, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kuokkala (district of Jyväskylä) → ? – "Kuokkala (district of Jyväskylä)" is an awkward title. A more natural title would be "Kuokkala, Jyväskylä" but the problem is that this title is already taken by Kuokkala, Jyväskylä, a ward that the district belongs to. Would "Kuokkala (district)" be a better title? Should the ward also be moved and Kuokkala, Jyväskylä be made to a disambiguation page? JIP | Talk 00:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 10:24, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Final (album) → Final (Vol.1) – ...although I'd be happy with Final Vol.1 as well. The artist has called the two volumes of this as his "final" album, but in reality these are two separate albums – they have two separate release dates several months apart (not even in the same calendar year), will have different track listings, will be sold and streamed as individual albums, will be reviewed separately, and have individual chart placings... it makes no sense to lump both albums together in the same article. Per WP:COMMONNAME, almost all reliable sources are calling this album Final (Vol.1), including the Billboard charts [4], Swiss charts [5], and the streaming sites Apple Music [6], Spotify [7] and Amazon [8]... the Spanish chart is calling it Final Vol.1 without the parentheses [9], as does a USA Today review of his live show [10], and the one album review so far calls it Final Vol 1 [11]. AllMusic doesn't have a review of the album yet, but have it listed in their database as Final, Vol. 1 [12]. However you look at it, "Vol 1" is included in every independent source that talks about this album. Richard3120 (talk) 00:04, 29 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 10:16, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trestle support → Trestle legs – con WP:NATURALDIS and WP:PRECISE: I cannot find any uses of this in RS. There are a couple of instances of "The trestle supports..." where clearly "supports" is a verb. Either move it over the existing R Trestle legs, or perhaps replace it with a redirect to sawhorse or scaffold, since a trestle is a support by definition. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 09:22, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – House of Sasan → Sasanian dynasty – much more common ([13]), actually used by the only cited source of this article, also symmetrical with Achaemenid dynasty and other Iranian dynasties. 92.184.97.89 (talk) 07:40, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Creativity and mental health → Creativity and mental disorders – the content of the article is mainly about the link with mental disorders. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shillpi Sharma → DJ Shilpi Sharma – Her real name is Shilpi not Shillpi. As there is already an article present with the name Shilpi Sharma, her name is being changed. Instead add DJ infront of her name Shilpi as everyone knows her by that, so the correct name won't be disrupted by this way. ManaliJain (talk) 04:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Williams (author) → John Williams (author, born 1961) – Ambiguous with numerous other articles. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 03:51, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Felipa Colón de Toledo, 3rd duchess of Veragua → Felipa Colón de Toledo, 3rd Duchess of Veragua – Correct capitalization. 2601:241:300:B610:C010:84DA:8641:58B6 (talk) 03:41, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Williams (researcher) → John Williams (medical researcher) – Ambiguous with numerous other articles. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 03:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Lewis (musician) → John Lewis (musician, died 1982) – Ambiguous with John Lewis (pianist) and Jona Lewie. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 02:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – John Lewis (educator) → John Lewis (computer science educator) – Ambiguous with John Lewis (headmaster), amongst other articles. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 01:53, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Chris Currie → Killing of Chris Currie – Per WP:DEATHS, the form "Death of..." is should be used for titles of articles detailing accidents or natural causes— Which is not the case here. violent deaths should indicate it within their headers as 'Killing of.. Inf-in MD (talk) 01:01, 13 October 2021 (UTC) Inf-in MD (talk) 01:01, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Adele Biton → Killing of Adele Biton – Per WP:DEATHS, the form "Death of..." is should be used for titles of articles detailing accidents or natural causes— Which is not the case here. Violent deaths should indicate it within their headers as 'Killing of.. Inf-in MD (talk) 00:55, 13 October 2021 (UTC) Inf-in MD (talk) 00:55, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
October 12, 2021
- (Discuss) – National Golf Coaches Association → Women's Golf Coaches Association – Current official name of organization is Women's Golf Coaches Association; cannot move article as redirect with this name already exists SimLibrarian (talk) 23:41, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – University of the City of Manila → Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila – While the university charter stated that the official name of the university in English is "University of the City of Manila" (Republic Act No. 4196. The sole name used to refer to the university in English-language sources is "Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila" loaned from Tagalog/Filipino. The name was adopted in 1967, two years after the university was established. Mainstream English-languages sources dont feel the need to add the (former) English name and just refer to the school as PLM - Such as ABS-CBN, Philippine News Agency, Manila Bulletin, Manila TImes. The current article name could still be retained as a plausible redirect (as the name of the school upon establishment) Hariboneagle927 (talk) 23:24, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Flight Attendant (TV series) → The Flight Attendant – I believe the television series has received enough traffic compared to the other pages on The Flight Attendant disambiguation page to be considered WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. vistadan 22:58, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hailey Baldwin → Hailey Bieber – Mrs Bieber has been married for two years and since then, the virtual majority of reliable sources have referred to her as Hailey Bieber. Cosmopolitan, TMZ, Vogue, USA Today, Teen Vogue, Bustle, InStyle, Yahoo! (multiple times), British Vogue, among countless other sources. Mrs Bieber herself even told Bustle (story via Fox News though ironically the Fox News article uses Hailey Baldwin in the title), told them that she changed her name to Bieber because “I always wanted to add his name to mine because I feel like we're becoming family, and I’m a little traditional and old school like that." Per reliable sources and WP:COMMONNAME, the title should be changed to Hailey Bieber. In addition, WP:NAMECHANGES states that we give extra weight to reliable sources written after the name change. Considering that the virtual majority of sources are using her new name, it is apparent the title should be changed. Though not policy and is not recognized per WP:COMMONNAME, it is respectful to use the name she chooses, akin to Caitlyn Jenner and
Elizabeth ManningChelsea Manning. Mrs Bieber also uses her married name on Instagram here and on Facebook here. cookie monster 755 17:08, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Basavaraj Bommai ministry → Bommai ministry – All ministries' have been named after the leader's last name only. So this should also follow the norm. I know his father S. R. Bommai too held the post but needless to say his notability is far less than his son's. Even the page views of these pages tell the same. Once we move this article, then we can put a hatnote to redirect to S. R. Bommai ministry, if need be. Appu (talk) 15:32, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Religious_views_of_Periyar_E._V._Ramasamy → Religious_views_of_Periyar – The biography of E. V. Ramasamy has been moved to Periyar after a consensus Appu (talk) 15:09, 12 October 2021 (UTC) Appu (talk) 15:09, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – McCown's longspur → Thick-billed longspur – Both IOC and Clements/eBird now use this name. Limited data but from google scholar in the past the new name is nearly universal. Somatochlora (talk) 14:32, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mail.ru Group → VK Group – Company is officially renamed 49.145.235.136 (talk) 14:12, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – West Africans → West African people – eponymous article with Category:West African people Gjs238 (talk) 23:44, 28 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trestles → Trestles, California – not the primary topic topic for "Trestles". See pageviews comparison, where Trestle table gets slightly more views, and Trestle bridge gets twice as many. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:48, 12 October 2021 (UTC).
- (Discuss) – Algerian People's National Armed Forces → Algerian People's National Army – Changing names to official and correct names, per official website. Skjoldbro (talk) 20:08, 16 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 07:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Skjoldbro (talk) 13:33, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Galit Distel-Etebaryan → Galit Distel-Atbaryan – The currect way to spell her name, now there's Niqqud added to her native Hebrew name in the article. So this is more proof that Atbaryan is the correct romanization (as her personal and formal Facebook pages, per the Knesset website, per Instagram and other many sources [1] [2] [3]), Etebaryan is not "common name" its a misspelling, that her real name we talking about not nickname or stage name, same real name. so per WP:BLP we should fix the wrong spelling. Google generate 1,290 results for "Galit Distel-Etebaryan" and 4,600 results for "Galit Distel Atbaryan". Sokuya (talk) 11:36, 12 October 2021 (UTC) Sokuya (talk) 11:36, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2021 Milan airplane crash → 2021 San Donato Milanese airplane crash – The airplane crash didn't happen in Milan, but in the nearby locality of San Donato Milanese. The title is misleading. I had thought it happened on Milan and that San Doneto Milanese could be some quarter of the city or something like that. I didn't pay much attention to it. This could also be the case for many readers, so we should use the correct location on the title. Super Ψ Dro 10:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Maulwai Shar Ahmad Emar → Sher Ahmad Ammar – Per native name (مولوی شیر احمد عمار مجاهد) so Sher Ahmad Ammar is correct and the other parts of the name should be used as suffixes and prefixes. Ainty Painty (talk) 03:54, 26 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 10:08, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Daniel Bryan → Bryan Danielson – Given the continued failure of anyone to explain why WP:NAMECHANGES should not apply to this circumstance (and noting that WP:NAMECHANGES is explicitly a subsection of WP:COMMONNAME and that attempts to pit the policies against each other are nonsensical), and that mainstream sources have consistently used the new name since he debuted for AEW ([14] [15] [16] [17] this page should be moved unless someone can present an actual policy-based account for why it shouldn’t be. Winter's Tulpa (talk) 20:33, 25 September 2021 (UTC) Winter's Tulpa (talk) 20:34, 25 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 10:05, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Jemal Pasha Zogolli → Xhemal Pasha Zogu – The 4th page moved by User:Seemitfe without justification or consensus. The previous name, Xhemal Pasha Zogu, is in use far more than this one. Djks1 (talk) 16:21, 25 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 08:19, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – José Abreu (infielder) → José Abreu (Negro leagues) – Insufficient disambiguation with José Abreu (first baseman) 162 etc. (talk) 22:28, 22 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 07:26, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Battle of Horseshoe Bend (1814) → Battle of Horseshoe Bend – The Creek War battle seems to be the overwhelming WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. A hatnote can be used to point to Battle of Horseshoe Bend (1832); the existing dab page would be rendered unnecessary with WP:TWODABS. Hog Farm Talk 06:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC) Hog Farm Talk 06:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Common leopard gecko → Leopard gecko – Thank you for checking in to assess this requested page move, your time is appreciated. I believe a rename to "Leopard Gecko" from "common leopard gecko" is warranted. "Leopard gecko" is generally used as vernacular to refer to E. macularius unambiguously, not to the genus Eublepharis. Though some other Eublepharis species are occasionally referred to as leopard geckos (though always with a modifier - eg, Satpura leopard gecko or West Indian leopard gecko), majority use guidelines for page naming (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page#Reasons_for_moving_a_page) would indicate that it is more appropriate to name this page "Leopard gecko" which is used by most to refer to E. macularius, as opposed to "common leopard gecko", which not frequently used. Furthermore, "leopard gecko" is used synonymously with E. macularius in most scientific literature (see link to prior discussion below for details), and google search results for "leopard gecko" currently link to the page for "common leopard gecko," which indicate that internet users searching for leopard gecko are looking for information on E. macularius and not the genus Eublepharis (In further support of this assertion, please see this research article on reptile search terms: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8001315/). The name of the page not reflecting this majority use could potentially be confusing to users not well versed in latin names. This change would be unlikely to cause inconvenience to those familiar with latin names, as the best way to be precise would be to search the actual latin name to begin with, which would redirect users to the appropriate page anyway. This topic was previously discussed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Amphibians_and_Reptiles/Archive_7#Proposed_Eublepharis_vs._Leopard_Gecko_Page_Renames where consensus was moving the page was warranted. As not many editors weighed in, I felt providing opportunity for further discussion was warranted prior to the rename. Connorlong90 (talk) 05:25, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cold Heart → Cold Heart (film) – The film is not the primary topic because the song "Cold Heart (Pnau remix)" is much more notable Showiecz (talk) 04:24, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tyler Rogers (baseball) → Tyler Rogers – The football player had a maximum of about 250 views since 2015. There is also no significant news for him since 2018; he didn't even play officially for the Stampedes in 2018 but just a training player. Since the baseball player's article was created, the daily view ratio is 126-3. Engr. Smitty Werben 04:09, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
October 11, 2021
- (Discuss) – Deaths of Asher and Yonatan Palmer → Killing of Asher and Yonatan Palmer – Per WP:DEATHS, the form "Death of..." is should be used for titles of articles detailing accidents or natural causes— Which is not the case here. violent deaths should indicate it within their headers as 'Killing of.. Inf-in MD (talk) 23:59, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Inf-in MD (talk) 23:59, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Yehuda Shoham → Killing of Yehuda Shoham – Per WP:DEATHS, the form "Death of..." is should be used for titles of articles detailing accidents or natural causes— Which is not the case here. violent deaths should indicate it within their headers as 'Killing of.. Inf-in MD (talk) 23:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Inf-in MD (talk) 23:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of JonBenét Ramsey → Killing of JonBenét Ramsey – Per WP:DEATHS, the form "Death of..." is should be used for titles of articles detailing accidents or natural cuases— Which is not the case here. violent deaths should indicate it within their headers as 'Killing of.. Inf-in MD (talk) 23:50, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Inf-in MD (talk) 23:50, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Lankaran-Astara Economic Region → Lankaran–Astara Economic Region – Since this is related to the Lankaran District and Astara District, MOS:DASH would suggest this title. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:16, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Egyptian revolution of 2011 → 2011 Egyptian revolution – Per 2011 Bahraini uprising. Unreal7 (talk) 21:17, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Regional Health Authorities of Manitoba → Regional health authorities of Manitoba – Not a proper name. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 03:04, 3 October 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) (guestbook) 20:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Freenode → Joseon (IRC network) – Freenode has changed its name to Joseon and the new domain when you connect to the network is irc.joseon.kr. 81.156.169.244 (talk) 20:00, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Transnistria autonomous territorial unit → Administrative-Territorial Units of the Left Bank of the Dniester – "Transnistria autonomous territorial unit" seems to be an original research name. "Unitatea Teritorială Autonomă Transnistria" gives me 4 results in Google (vs 14,600 results by searching "Unitățile Administrativ-Teritoriale din stînga Nistrului"), so this name is not used in Romanian (the language spoken in Moldova). Furthermore, all other Wikipedias use the proposed title. Super Ψ Dro 19:45, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Duke and Duchess of Urbino → Diptych of Federico da Montefeltro and Battista Sforza – "Diptych of Federico da Montefeltro and Battista Sforza" is the correct title for the subject painting since Federico was not made a Duke until after his wife's death, so she could not have been a duchess. [1] [2] Currently page 2 ("Diptych of Federico da Montefeltro and Battista Sforza") REDIRECTs to page 1 ("The Duke and Duchess of Urbino"). When the move is completed page 1 should REIRECT to page 2.
References
- ^ Hoysted, Elaine (April 2012). "Battista Sforza, Countess of Urbino" (PDF). Socheolas: Limerick Student Journal of Sociology. 4 (1): 100–116.
- ^ Kamhi, Michelle Marder (October 8, 2021). "Delving into an Incomparable Work of Renaissance Portraiture". For Piero’s Sake.
- TedKinloch (talk) 19:18, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Louis IX of France → Louis IX – There are three articles on the English Wikipedia titled Louis IX. Of these, the French king has by far the most page views. I believe Louis IX of France to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Векочел (talk) 16:12, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Richard J. Gordon → Richard Gordon (politician) – This man is never referred to as "Richard J. Gordon", with the middle initial. Either it's "Richard Gordon", "Richard 'Dick' Gordon" or "Dick Gordon", with preference to the first option. Now, checking Richard Gordon, there are at least a couple other politicians named "Richard Gordon", but neither are referred to as such, one is called "R.H. Gordon", while the other is "Rich Gordon", the Richard Gordon of this RM is never referred to by these names. Most of the references in this article refer to him in any of the three names I shared. This guy can claim WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over "Richard Gordon (politician)"; in case that's disputed, we can use "Richard Gordon (Filipino politician)" or "Richard Gordon (politician, born 1945)". Compare Richard J. Gordon vs. Rich Gordon. Howard the Duck (talk) 18:59, 24 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 13:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The New School at West Heath → West Heath School – School has been renamed Bleaney (talk) 13:11, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – McAfee → McAfee (company) – McAfee is also a surname, I think the McAfee article should be about the surname, not a company with the same name. Aalaa324 (talk) 12:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of spouses of prime ministers of Japan → First Lady of Japan – Changing the article title to "First Lady of Japan" would create more consistency with other articles of the position of spouses of world leaders, such as First Lady of the United States or First Lady of South Korea Kai2004 (talk) 09:02, 11 October 2021 (UTC) Kai2004 (talk) 09:02, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Datu Saudi-Ampatuan → Datu Saudi Ampatuan – Muslim Mindanao Act No. 151 did not state a hyphen (-) on the actual legal document (https://web.archive.org/web/20170305013036/http://rla-armmgov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/MMAA-151.pdf). Therefore, it is a typographical error in the part of the Philippine Statistics Authority (PSA). Exec8 (talk) 16:15, 24 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 08:09, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mirror Go → Mirror go – As this does not appear to be in line with the relevant guideline (MOS:GAMECAPS), this should probably be subject to a full discussion. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 08:02, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mike Polchlopek → Bart Gunn – WP:COMMONNAME. He is best know to the people as Bart Gunn. Despite working under other names, he worked as Bart Gunn during the Attitude Era and the New Generation era. Also, recently he appeared at Dark Side of the Ring and was credited as Bart Gunn. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:40, 23 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 07:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – List of political ideologies → List of ideologies – Renaming this to "List of ideologies" will allow for more freedom in what is included, without lengthy debates on which ideologies are political and which are not. It will also remove the need for an expert in politics to review the article, which means that there will be one less problem to solve. Heythereimaguy (talk) 20:01, 23 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 07:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Four go houses → Four Go houses – By convention, "Go" is the correct capitalization for the game. The article and the redirect need to be swapped. Coastside (talk) 07:15, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Hořava–Witten domain wall → Hořava–Witten theory – The article is unsourced (and substantially unchanged) since 2004. On Google Scholar, I find enough coverage of "Hořava-Witten theory" to suggest an article could be written on that topic, but not enough about a Hořava–Witten domain wall specifically. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 00:34, 4 October 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 05:47, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Meredith Hunter → Killing of Meredith Hunter – This main title header was mentioned as an example of an existing "Death of..." title at the discussion regarding the ultimately unsuccessful Death of Benito Mussolini → Killing of Benito Mussolini RM. As in the case of the Mussolini header, this one has never been submitted at RM, although it had been previously unilaterally moved to "Murder of..." The fact that there was no conviction does not mean that there was no killing as in the absence of conviction in such cases as Killing of Eric Garner or Killing of Philando Castile. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:39, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rock and Roll Music → Rock and Roll Music (Chuck Berry album) – *
"Rock and Roll Music" is confusingly leading to a specific album, when it is in fact a title case spelling of Rock and roll music, and should lead there. Hence: #The two above listed pages should be moved to appropriately disambiguated titles (they are already mentioned at Rock and roll (disambiguation), so no need for a separate one; although a hatnote on both might be usefully) #Rock and Roll Music (and variants, i.e. Rock 'n' Roll Music, ...) should redirect to the same place as Rock and roll music (which is, if you hadn't guessed, Rock and roll) #Rock 'n' Roll Music (album) (and variants, i.e. Rock and Roll Music (album), ...) should redirect to the disambig page. #And of course, existing usage will need to be checked to make sure existing links head to the right place. Seems like the most sensible way to solve this. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
October 10, 2021
- (Discuss) – Circling the Drain → Circle the Drain – the terms should be basic present tense if possible Jax 0677 (talk) 23:40, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Marcos Alonso (footballer, born 1933) → Marquitos – Per WP:COMMONNAME, this article should be moved to Marquitos. He is referred to as Marquitos in Wikipedia (for example in European Cup final articles), in his own article he is called Marquitos, and other sources outside of Wikipedia call him Marquitos. Even his profile on Real Madrid's website is named Marquitos. Paul Vaurie (talk) 21:26, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Rodney Clarke (figure skater) → Rodney Clarke – Rodney Clarke (singer) has recently been deleted which means the figure skater is now the only page with the title "Rodney Clarke". Sahaib3005 (talk) 20:57, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Suga (rapper) → Suga – The rapper is the primary topic. It is a similar situation to when BTS used to be called BTS (band). Nothing else on the disambiguation page seems to have as much long term significance (except maybe Yoshihide Suga, but he isn’t known as simply "Suga"). Sahaib3005 (talk) 20:33, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Linga Sound (Shetland) → Linga Sound, Shetland – Disambiguation for places normally uses a comma - requesting to make this article title consistent with others. Hrossey (talk) 18:50, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Next Step (2013 TV series) → The Next Step (Canadian TV series) – It is preferred under WP:NCTV that TV series in the current situation as these two be moved to "by country" disambiguation to better differentiate the two TV series from each other (e.g. see the similar move request for the Canadian TV series Backstage). In addition, the American The Next Step is a "TV program" under WP:NCTV, not a "TV series" (with continuing story elements), and so should also be moved to "TV program" disambiguation. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 13:34, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ho Chi Minh → Hồ Chí Minh – There was a discussion about this back in 2005. A lot has changed on Wikipedia since then; the most compelling reason to move this article to use Vietnamese diacritics is that we do it with many other Vietnamese people -- for example, everyone in Category:Vietnamese revolutionaries has articles named with the proper diacritics. Llightex (talk) 13:31, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Comprehensive Child Development Bill → Comprehensive Child Development Act – New page title already exists as a redirect (to the current page title). Reliable refs (e.g. 1 2 3 4) almost always refer to this as the CCD "Act", not "Bill". Jaydavidmartin (talk) 01:02, 21 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 12:40, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Environment Prize (German Environment Foundation) → German Environmental Prize – The official English name of the award is German Environmental Prize (https://www.dbu.de/2547.html) Grimes2 (talk) 12:38, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Bowser (character) → Bowser – I'm not sure how this works, but I think this is the right choice for what it should be. The character always comes up when people are searching for Bowser. GeeJay24 (talk) 12:24, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kabaš Mountain → Kabash Mountain – This move request will start off by clarifying that the mountain chain that is termed 'Kabash' or 'Kabaš' in general is along the border with North Macedonia - the mountain that this article refers to is the mountain within Kosovo, not North Macedonia, hence why using 'Kabash' is plausible here considering Kosovo is an Albanian-speaking state. The Kabash Mountain chain itself is connected to the Sharr mountains. Kabash Mountain is a lesser-known mountain/mountain chain in southern Kosovo near the Albanian village of Korisha in the majority (strong majority) Albanian municipality of Prizren, and it is connected to the wider Sharr mountain region. It takes it's name after the Albanian Kabashi tribe, as do several other toponyms in Kosovo and other Albanian-speaking regions. I propose to move 'Kabaš Mountain' to 'Kabash Mountain' due to the following: 1. Kabash Mountain is referred to as 'Kabash' by the government and international organisations, including but not limited to: * Kosovo Government - https://www.ammk-rks.net/repository/docs/v2Red_Book_-_6_Shtator_1_(1).pdf * Kosovo Government - https://mzhr.rks-gov.net/desk/inc/media/ADD50EBC-3EAF-4ECF-A703-4789CE47F3C6.pdf * Kosovo Government - https://www.balkanplus.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/ENG-PROFILET-RAJONALE-FINAL-4_compressed.pdf * International Organisation - https://www.refworld.org/pdfid/3ae6a6f74.pdf * Multiple International Organisations (inlcuding UN Habitat - http://unhabitat-kosovo.org/old/repository/docs/2.3_Strategic_Environmental_Assessment_Report_for_Municipal_Development_Plan,_Municipality_of_Prizren_712863.pdf 2. Tourism/Accomodation websites refer to Kabash Mountain as 'Kabash', including but not limited to: * https://alpventurer.com/bjeshka-e-kabashit/ * https://www.wikiloc.com/hiking-trails/mushtisht-mali-i-kabashit-gryka-e-rusenices-31427318 * https://kosovopass.com/?id=33,440,0,0,e * https://trekbalkan.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/High-Scardus-Trail-Map-3v6-Shar-Mountain-Korab-Mountain.pdf To conclude, 'Kabaš Mountain' must be moved to 'Kabash Mountain' for the following reasons: # 'Kabash' is the name that the Government of Kosovo uses as shown in the source above, and as such, that must be respected. # 'Kabash' reflects, as is the case with the move request of Boletin [[18]], the demographic reality of the local Albanian-inhabited area, the wider Albanian-inhabited municipality of Prizren and the state of Kosovo which is dominated by ethnic Albanians and the Albanian language. # 'Kabash' is the name used by tourism and accommodation websites; deviation from this name will cause confusion for potential visitors or those researching the mountain. # 'Kabash' is friendlier to the English language, as the 'š' character is not used in the local Albanian alphabet nor is it used in the English alphabet. # 'Kabash' will encourage the use of the official, correct name for the mountain by those who read this article, and it stays true to the origin of the name from the Kabashi tribe. BleronZ (talk) 11:35, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Piper Niven → Doudrop – In my opinion, her new ring name has become stable. Here are some reasons: # Not reverting back to Piper Niven: "Backstage, Sarah Schreiber interviewed Doudrop. She she said that Eva thought she was putting her down by giving her the name Doudrop, but she likes the name and is keeping it."[19] # Appeared as Doudrop at SummerSlam (2021), drafted as Doudrop (2021 WWE Draft), and competing as Doudrop in Queen's Crown tournament # Had a title match as Doudrop[20] # Does have her own entrance theme[21] # The reason why I opposed the previous requested move was because it seemed "Doudrop" was a temporary name and it was just a part of the storyline (alliance with Eva Marie). The storyline ended and now she competes as Doudrop. PW sources have started using Doudrop and Piper Niven is history. # Now her main roster run is as notable as her time in Mae Young Classic and NXT UK. Mann Mann (talk) 08:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – LART (computer) → LART – There was a move request to "LART" back in 2010, the result of which was "Move", with only one oppose !vote (of four total) by User:Anthony Appleyard stating
"LART" has other meanings
... It was then moved back again by User:Electron9 in March 2011 with the ES "Prior meaning". As far as I see, that was an undiscussed move after an RM discussion. Hey ho, time has passed. Nevertheless, ten years later we do not have other substantial content for "other meanings"; the definition at luser is just that. While page views show that the redirects Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool, LART and Lart – which all target Luser – get fewer views combined than this article (just). So it makes sense to revert the undiscussed move. The two articles have hatnotes to each other. I'm not sure what to suggest for Lart since only the term in caps is used in either article. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 07:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Boljetin, Zvečan → Boletin – Boletin is a village in Kosovo, which is inhabited by a large majority of Albanians. I propose that 'Boljetin, Zvecan' be moved to 'Boletin' for the following reasons: 1. Boletin is referred to as 'Boletin' by a variety of government/organisational sources, including but not limited to the following: * Kosovo Government - https://mzhr.rks-gov.net/desk/inc/media/ADD50EBC-3EAF-4ECF-A703-4789CE47F3C6.pdf * Kosovo Government - https://mf.rks-gov.net/desk/inc/media/4FC9C8D0-8ADF-4DD1-97B8-BB2DD36150C3.pdf * Kosovo Government - https://www.ammk-rks.net/repository/docs/Municipal_Waste_Managment_in_Kosovo_Status_Report_2018.pdf * USA Organisation - https://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PA00TKFX.pdf * Serbian-based Organisation - http://www.lokalnirazvoj.org/upload/Publication/Documents/2017_08/Public_institutions_of_the_Republic_of_Serbia_in_North_Kosovo.pdf * International Organisation - https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/31172/eur_rep_182_kosovo.pdf 2. Boletin is referred to as 'Boletin' by tourist sites, organisations and companies on the web as well as on social media, including but not limited to: * https://mitrovicaguide.com/place/museum-of-isa-boletini/ * https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/7740958/catalog-of-tourism-offers-kosovo-guide * https://www.top-rated.online/cities/Zve%C4%8Dan/place/p/5608786/Sokolica+Monastery * https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=330317614306768 * https://prishtinainsight.com/tour-boletin-kulla-360/ 3. When referencing the village in the context of history, 'Boletin' is used, including but not limited to the following sources: * https://books.google.com.au/books?id=GCRjKdrmqqEC&pg=PA264&lpg=PA264&dq=boletin+kosovo&source=bl&ots=_33JmxZCXX&sig=ACfU3U04UmPaNm-6d7-BzSIvk-4VyMJKNw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjroeLpmL_zAhVT8XMBHWTgDWAQ6AF6BAgTEAM#v=onepage&q=boletin%20kosovo&f=false * http://www.albanianhistory.net/1912_Herbert/index.html * https://books.google.com.au/books?id=pgf6GWJxuZgC&pg=PA46&redir_esc=y * https://books.google.com.au/books?id=wPOtzk-unJgC&q=Isa+Boletin&redir_esc=y 4. News reports name the village as 'Boletin', including but not limited to the following sources: * https://balkaninsight.com/2015/06/10/kosovo-paying-homage-to-country-s-hero-isa-boletini/ * https://bqk-kos.org/edu/en/an-educational-activity-was-held-with-the-students-of-plss-isa-boletini-in-boletin/ In conclusion, I propose that 'Boljetin, Zveĉan' is moved to 'Boletin' for the following reasons; # 'Boletin' is the official name for the village, as it is utilised by the Kosovo government. # 'Boletin' reflects the demographic reality of the village and the nation as a whole, as it is the official name of an Albanian-inhabited village within a country that is dominated by Albanian people and the Albanian language. # 'Boletin' is clearly used in a variety of sources and contexts as the more prevalent term; on Google Scholar, 'Boletin, Kosovo' will return about 688 results in the English Language, whilst 'Boljetin, Kosovo' and 'Boljetin, Zveĉan' return 35 and 2 results respectively. # 'Boletin', being the more common and official term, will create less confusion for readers and visitors on Wikipedia who have heard or read about the village elsewhere. # 'Boletin' will help to promote the standard and official name for the village, both in general and when people reference this article or it's contents. # 'Boletin' is also clearer, more concise and friendlier to the English language than 'Boljetin, Zveĉan'. BleronZ (talk) 07:14, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
October 9, 2021
- (Discuss) – SIC → Sic (disambiguation) – "SIC" in all caps being the disambiguation page citing "Sic" in sentence case as the main article of interest doesn't make sense. IAmAnIndividual (talk) 23:17, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Romualdas Giedraitis → Romuald Giedroyć – (
Roumald-GizzyCatBella🍁 22:07, 11 October 2021 (UTC)) Romuald Giedroyć is the actual name that was used by him and his contemporaries which is supported by multiple sources of that time. The name engraved on his grave is: "ROMUALD KSIĄŻĘ GIEDROYĆ", książę meaning "prince" (the picute is linked in the article). It's also the name used by his daughter in her book about uprisings in Poland. "Romualdas Giedraitis" on the other hand is a Lithuanisation of the original name used by modern Lithuanian historiographyMarcelus (talk) 21:20, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2021 Global Energy Crisis → 2021 Global energy crisis – does not meet criteria for capitalization. Legendary Whistler 5 (talk) 20:24, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – House of Jeonju Yi → House of Yi – The name of the article should be moved back to the House of Yi. The original move was requested by a now-banned 99to99, a sockpuppet of Kauffner, and the article was moved without discussion. In English usage, the House of "[insert surname]" indicates that the surname of the ruling house was [insert surname], sometimes with a nobiliary particle. For example, the surname of the House of Romanov is Romanov. Titling the article, House of Jeonju Yi, makes most readers think that the surname of the house was Jeonju Yi, when it was only Yi. For example, the name of one of the current pretenders is Yi Seok, not Jeonju Yi Seok. There are also no references at all in English to a "House of Jeonju Yi" except from Wikipedia clones. In contrast, the term "House of Yi" is sometimes used in English-using Korean media. This article from the Korea Times and this opinion piece from the Korea Herald, both use the terminology "House of Yi". 99to99 seems to have conflated this article (which is solely about the ruling house descended from a branch of the Jeonju Yi clan) with the Jeonju Yi clan, which already has an article. There also has only been one Yi family in Korea that became a ruling house, meaning readers are not likely to confuse the House of Yi with a different Yi family in Korea. The article for the ruling house of the Tang dynasty simply uses House of Li, despite the existence of Li families in China not from Longxi. -- CountHacker (talk) 19:26, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Shabuhragan → Erzongjing – Erzongjing is the name used more recently than Shabuhragan. SiliconProphet (talk) 19:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – The Conversation → The Conversation (film) – My bot and I just changed 150 instances of [[The Conversation]] to [[The Conversation (website)|The Conversation]]. There are only 140 articles linking to the article about the film. Since new additions of [[The Conversation]] could be either about the film or the website, I would like to have The Conversation be a redirect to Conversation (disambiguation). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:59, 30 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Vpab15 (talk) 18:46, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nur-Sultan → Astana – Astana is the more widely used Name in the English language Tecumseh*1301 (talk) 18:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC) Tecumseh*1301 (talk) 18:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Venkateswara Temple, Tirumala → Venkateswara Temple – Clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: pageviews and searches — DaxServer (talk to me) 18:21, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Indian princess → Native American princess – The term Indian princess refers to Indian princesses of the Indian subcontinent, not a misunderstood stereotype of Native Americans. Far more historical and academic data support the term Indian princess to refer to female royalty in India. It was used since the Company Rule and Princely States in India to refer to princesses in India not Native Americans. Furthermore, it is important to not use dated terms and antiquated misconceptions to refer to a marginalized group. The ethnic group should be refered to as Native American, Indigenous Americans, or American Indian, to differentiate them from Indians and Indian Americans. Vajra Raja (talk) 18:14, 9 October 2021 (UTC) Vajra Raja (talk) 18:14, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – A Summer Place → A Summer Place (novel) – A Summer Place (film) is arguably at least as well if not better known than A Summer Place (novel). A Summer Place should be a disambiguation page listing the novel, the film and A Summer Place theme a/k/a Theme from A Summer Place.-- Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:48, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Loan (disambiguation) → Loan – No clear primary topic over some of the other generic meanings like the sporting one etc and proper nouns. The financial meaning has 11,324 views but Loan (sports) has 2,357, Loanword (though not normally "Loan") has 8,526, Nguyễn Ngọc Loan (a PTM) has 4,774 and Interlibrary loan has 1,197[[22]]. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:18, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Coast Guard Command (Turkey) → Coast Guard Command – I think we should remove the name Turkey in brackets because there is not any other organization with the same name. Katakana546 (talk) 17:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – General Directorate of Security (Turkey) → General Directorate of Security – I think we should remove the name Turkey in brackets because there is not any other organization with the same name. Katakana546 (talk) 17:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Glossary of engineering: A–L → Glossary of engineering: A–L – – Since this list now only covers words from A to L, it would make the most sense to rename it as such. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 14:07, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Cupressus nootkatensis → Callitropsis nootkatensis – The majority of authors now use Callitropsis nootkatensis as the binomial, accepting it as a separate genus from the old world and Asian clades Kevmin § 14:04, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Exo (group) → Exo – I think "Exo" more commonly refers to the group. TheRafaMarc15 (talk) 11:59, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – George Mikhailovich Romanov → ? – Considering the amount of edit-warring that has been going on in this page with regards to what his name and titles are, I thought it would be better to solve this issue by opening a new RM and leaving the options open so that the community can decide what the title should be. The question is: which of the following options could actually be his WP:COMMONNAME? *A) George Mikhailovich Romanov (the current title, which according to User:Tone's statement when he moved the page in September 2020 is the name that is widely used in Russian sources) *B) Grand Duke George Mikhailovich of Russia (consistent with his mother's page Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna of Russia, both of whom were granted their titles by Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich of Russia, who in turn was bestowed with his own title by his father and previous pretender Grand Duke Kirill Vladimirovich of Russia) *C) Grand Duke George Mikhailovich Romanov (perhaps more favorable now that Russia is not a monarchy; similar examples include Prince Dimitri Romanov, Prince Andrew Romanoff, Prince Rostislav Romanov (born 1985), Princess Olga Andreevna Romanoff, etc.) *D) Prince George of Prussia (as he's also a descendant of the House of Hohenzollern through his father). Keivan.fTalk 05:02, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Pawayan → Powayan – Tehsil name is Powayan on official government site of Shahjahanpur and on many other news sources.[1][2]
References
- ^ "Tehsils | District Shahjahanpur, Government of Uttar Pradesh | India". Retrieved 2021-09-29.
- ^ "Powayan Pin Code | Postal Code (Zip Code) of Powayan, Shahjahanpur, Uttar Pradesh, India". www.indiatvnews.com. Retrieved 2021-09-29.
- 2409:4063:4E11:1AD2:C60A:7822:7D35:CB2E (talk) 04:27, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Intent (disambiguation) → Intent – Arguments were made above for several different topics being primary for Intent. A while back, a primarytopic claim was made for Intention, which got the disambig page changed to a redirect. Most recently, Intention (criminal law) is claimed (by hamfistedly) to be the obvious primary topic. To me, what's obvious is that there's no primary topic for this term of many meanings, so disambiguation is more appropriate. Dicklyon (talk) 02:34, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
October 8, 2021
Elapsed listings
- (Discuss) – Harry Wilson (footballer, born 1997) → Harry Wilson (Welsh footballer) – Out of the other Harry Wilsons who are footballers, only this one is Welsh and people are likely to identify his nationality better than the year of birth. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:28, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trollz → Trollz (TV series) – Per WP:NOPRIMARY, Trollz should be a disambiguation page. Trollz (song) has long-term notability as it reached number 1 one the Billboard Hot 100, and also gets more pageviews. 162 etc. (talk) 21:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – History of the 20th century → Key events of the 20th century – I wouldn't call this page a comprehensive overview, nor do I think the page should be. I think "key events" captures the nature of the page better, and should lead to less random additions by folks trying to include every possible thing that happened during the 20th century. Smooth sailing, CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 19:00, 8 October 2021 (UTC) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 19:00, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Associação Escola Graduada de São Paulo → Graded - The American School of São Paulo – even though "Associação Escola Graduada de São Paulo" is the school's legal name on paper, because it is a school in Brazil, the school's official name is "Graded - The American School of São Paulo" - in English - because it is an American school. Fabiograded (talk) 18:34, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Karl Robert Eduard von Hartmann → Eduard von Hartmann – The subject of the article is more widely known by the name Eduard von Hartmann, rather than his full name e.g. [1][2][3][4] Throughthemind (talk) 12:45, 8 October 2021 (UTC) Throughthemind (talk) 12:45, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Southeastern (train operating company) → London & South Eastern Railway – SE Trains Limited will be taking over operation of the South Eastern franchise on 17 October from London & South Eastern Railway Limited as described in both articles. The new operator will continue to trade as Southeastern. Propose the current Southeastern (train operating company) be renamed to its legal name (less the Limited per WP:NCCORP), and the future operator to Southeastern (train operating company) as the latter will become the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. A similar thing happened when the Northern franchise changed hands with the branding retained. The Northern (train operating company) was renamed Arriva Rail North, with the former then becoming a redirect to the new operator. A by-product is that only a small number of the 1,200 plus incoming links (mainly town and railway station articles) will need to be updated. Pleatrox (talk) 05:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Nicholas Romanov, Prince of Russia → Prince Nicholas Romanov – Per WP:COMMONNAME. Also per WP:TITLECON; ex. his brother and successor Prince Dimitri Romanov, as well as other relatives, including Prince Andrew Romanoff, Prince Rostislav Romanov (born 1985), Princess Olga Andreevna Romanoff, etc. Even for other rival claimants such as Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna of Russia, the royal prefix is placed before the first name. The current way in which "Prince of Russia" has been placed as a disambiguator gives the false impression that it is a specific title like Prince of Wales or Prince of Asturias, while in fact it is not. Keivan.fTalk 03:52, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Our Souls at Night (film) → Our Souls at Night – Sole main title header that bears this exact name, thus obviating the need for the parenthetical qualifier "(film)". -- Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:00, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Southsiders → Southsiders (album) – Last discussed in 2014. The album by Atmosphere does not appear to be overly notable, and should not be the primary topic. Proposing that Southsiders become a redirect to the dabpage at Southsider. 162 etc. (talk) 02:52, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
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- (Discuss) – Kevin McCarthy (California politician) → Kevin McCarthy – I am requesting this move on the basis that the California politician has become the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this name, due to his positions of major leadership in the United States Congress. MelanieN (talk) 20:25, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Andrew Zimmerman → Andi Zimmerman – Per their faculty page (see citation), the subject of this article uses "they/them" pronouns and goes by the preferred name of Andi as opposed to their birth name of Andrew. I do not personally know them, so I am unsure of their correct gender identity (transgender or non-binary). There appears to be different treatment of their preferred name in relation to their scholarship. Barnes and Noble, for example, uses their preferred name, while Amazon does not. I am not sure of the policy regarding article titles and individuals' preferred names, so I am asking for further discussion before I move the article. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 16:36, 30 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:50, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Painted whitestart → Painted redstart – "redstart" is used far, far more commonly for this species than "whitestart". Of the sources used on this page, the only one to use "whitestart" is from the IUCN, a European-based organisation. On Google Scholar, a search finds 7 results for "painted whitestart" since 2017, all of which are barely relevant. "Painted redstart" gives 74 results, of which the first 4 include the name in the title. I know Google searches can be misleading, but a search for "painted whitestart" gives very few useful results - just Wikipedia, and BirdLife, another European-based organisation (plus eBird which does not use it as the primary name). The first page results also includes a rejected proposal to change the name of species in this genus to "whitestart", and random links to Pinterest and a Youtube video. Meanwhile a search for "painted redstart" returns all the most relevant sources for North American birds and you don't really start finding junk until the third page of results. I have 11 books on the shelf next to me that mention species in this genus, mostly field guides for various areas. 9 use "redstart" exclusively, 1 uses "redstart" but mentions "whitestart", and only one uses "whitestart" primarily, but mentions that "redstart" is commonly used in N America. I think probably this whole genus should be at "redstart" pages, but that's a little less clear when they occur almost exclusively in Spanish-speaking areas. But this species has quite an extensive range into English-speaking areas and it seems pretty clear that "redstart" is way more common and using "whitestart" violates WP:CommonName. Somatochlora (talk) 18:16, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Omar Kharbin → Omar Khribin – Correct name according to Global Sports Archive, Soccerway and the Asian Football Confederation ([23], [24]). Also goal.com, for example, uses Khribin more (2,940 results) than Kharbin (633). Nehme1499 18:01, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – HoYeon Jung → Jung Ho-yeon – Per WP:COMMONNAME: Time Elle Forbes Netflix. I don't think there is need of any bigger reason, but if I will see the need, I will add more points. -ink&fables «talk» 14:40, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Victims of communism → Victims of Communism Memorial (disambiguation) – Following up from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victims of communism. This disambiguation page lists monuments and memorials which are formally or commonly known as a "Victims of Communism Memorial", and should be titled to match that scope. This is not an article about victims of communism, and I don't believe we have such an article (while we do have various articles on conflicts in communist regimes, the subject of "victims of communism" is inherently POV). We already have a Victims of Communism Memorial article, thus a disambiguator is required. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 12:50, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Table hockey games → Table hockey – "Table hockey games" is an odd choice here, as these are commonly and concisely known simply as table hockey. Not sure that a disambiguation page is even needed here, as the only other items there are a redlink, and Air hockey, which is not usually known as table hockey. 162 etc. (talk) 19:23, 19 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 09:54, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – NyLon (concept) → NyLon – The previous RM solved the stated problem twice over: It added a disambiguator, but also adopted a capitalization that isn't used anywhere else, making the disambiguator superfluous. I do not see any indication that any of the other terms at Nylon (disambiguation) are frequently referred to in PascalCase. Per WP:DIFFCAPS, we should drop the qualifier from this title and just say "NyLon". -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 08:39, 28 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 09:51, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kakapo → Kākāpō – Adding macrons per recent usage. Recent usage almost exclusively uses macrons, including from multiple media sources (Newshub / Stuff / The Guardian / The NZ Herald / TVNZ / RNZ / Newsroom), as well as international sources such as the Natural History Museum, the Smithsonian magazine and Italian media. Macrons are also heavily used for kākāpō across academic sources. Turnagra (talk) 09:21, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Template:Rollback granted 3 → Template:Rollback granted 2 – After the deletion of the second template, this should be renamed to mitigate any confusion. A redirect should be kept. Anarchyte (talk) 07:10, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ios → Ios (island) – Anyone searching with ios currently gets taken to the island rather than to Apple's iOS. This is not serving our users well at all as page views of iOS dominate page views of this article by a daily average ratio of about 25,000 to less than 200[25], and probably many of the views to this page are intended for the operating system. By moving this page as proposed without leaving a redirect, or creating a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to iOS, all searches for "ios" with any capitalization will go to iOS, which is clearly the overwhelming WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "ios" and "Ios", as well as for "iOS". В²C ☎ 00:31, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Tafsir ibn Kathir → Tafsir Ibn Kathir – Capitalisation 2001:16A2:EA92:8103:ED05:C08C:E339:E54B (talk) 00:29, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism/Canon law Task Force → Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism/Catholic canon law task force – The capital letters for "canon" and "law" were unjustified. As for adding "Catholic", it is to clearly state that this task force is only focused on one canon law - i. e. the Catholic canon law -, and not on canon law in general which would include canon laws of other churches. Veverve (talk) 21:41, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – IBM System i → IBM AS/400 – See discussion on talk page. Most links to this page are through the AS/400 redirect. Most references for this system refer to the system as the AS/400, and it is more commonly known by this name. The AS/400 name was used for 12 years, compared with the 2 years in which the System i name was used. WP:UCN Vt320 (talk) 17:26, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Dinesh Kanagaratnam → Aaryan Dinesh Kanagaratnam – This is the common name, and the way he is credited on liner notes. An example is here. Kailash29792 (talk) 09:48, 28 September 2021 (UTC) Kailash29792 (talk) 09:48, 28 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 14:53, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Elk (sculpture) → Thompson Elk – This one's a bit difficult because the subject has many different names. However, I believe "Thompson Elk" is the best compromise. This very recent source says the sculpture is officially known as "Elk Thompson Fountain", but the statue is not currently a fountain and there are many other sources which use other names, so I'm not sure this title should be used per COMMONNAME. Sources using "Thompson Elk" include The Oregonian, KOIN, Portland Mercury, etc. But, I admit, someone could cherrypick sources to advocate for a handful of different titles. Perhaps other editors have a more systematic way of determining the best possible title? Help! --Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 25 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. No such user (talk) 14:31, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Taupo District Council → Taupō District Council – Adding macrons to remaining instances of Taupō where the page doesn't currently have them. Contemporary uses of Taupō (including the town and lake) use the macron, as does the district council in its own media. Given these all use the same name and are derived from the same source, it stands to reason that the macron should be used in all instances of Taupō. Turnagra (talk) 09:11, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Death of Keith Blakelock → Killing of Keith Blakelock – because it's more accurate; there's no doubt that he was killed Jim Michael (talk) 07:02, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sheepherder (painting) → Tibetans (paintings) – The scope of this article should be expanded to include the entire series of 7 paintings. Also not the most common translation of the specific painting's title. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 23:02, 27 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 02:55, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – European Rugby Challenge Cup → EPCR Challenge Cup – Officially rebranded 5.165.61.130 (talk) 22:45, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Thomas Baty → Irene Clyde – Both Thomas Baty and Irene Clyde are used to refer to the individual. The name Thomas Baty is more commonly used when talking about their diplomatic and legal career serving the Empire of Japan, while Irene Clyde is more commonly used when talking about their contributions to the Urania magazine, science fiction, and the queer movement more broadly. As there is evidence that the individual preferred the name Irene Clyde and "longed to be a lady," and because the individual has a much stronger legacy as a queer activist and writer than as a public servant of the Empire of Japan, it would be appropriate to move the article to a page titled "Irene Clyde" out of respect for Clyde and to comply with Wikipedia's policies concerning transgender and gender non-conforming individuals. Sources: https://historicengland.org.uk/research/inclusive-heritage/lgbtq-heritage-project/activism-and-community-building/talking-back/; https://open.library.ubc.ca/soa/cIRcle/collections/ubctheses/24/items/1.0066742; https://www.jstor.org/stable/20719443?seq=4#metadata_info_tab_contents FactCheck105 (talk) 17:13, 28 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 21:59, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mount Hebron → Hebron hills – As discussed in the above section. Selfstudier (talk) 17:29, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – François le Clerc → François Le Clerc – French family name, not a clerc as a profession (clerk). Wisdood (talk) 16:22, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Gurgen Margaryan → Murder of Gurgen Margaryan – The guy is only notable for being murdered, so WP:BIO1E/WP:VICTIM applies. There is also a lot of content in the Ramil Safarov article that belongs in the event article. (t · c) buidhe 11:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 15:16, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Norwegian First Division → ? – I propose moving all the Norwegian men's football divisions from level 2 to level 6, in addition to the women's level 2. The reason being consistency in the article titles. As this is the English Wikipedia, it seems only reasonable that English language sources should have an impact on the names, especially when the current Norwegian names are not very prevalent in neither English nor Norwegian sources. For example, SofaScore, SoccerStats.com, FootyStats.org, Tribuna.com, and RSSSF (Norwegian football archive) all refer to the second level as the Norwegian 1st Division (or Norwegian First Division), and the lower divisions should match that name for consistency. There are also pages like Soccerway and FcTables.com who refer to the league as 1. Division, which is an incorrect translation of 1. divisjon. A correct translation would be "1st division". The Norwegian Football Federation, Altomfotball, Eurosport, VG, and Global Sports Archive refer to the Norwegian 1st Division by its sponsored name, OBOS-ligaen, which is not ideal as a Wikipedia title. Sources that refer to the second level as 1. divisjon are: NRK, NIFS, WorldFootball.net and National Football Teams. The titles I would suggest are Norwegian 1st Division, Norwegian 2nd Division etc. But they are in no way set in stone. Another opportunity is to substitute the number in the titles with letters, so that Norwegian 1st Division would become Norwegian First Division. However, I think Norwegian 1st Division should be used in that case because it is more concise and a better translation of the Norwegian "1. divisjon". The names should not be confused with Category:Divisions of Norway though. Yet another opportunity is to use the Norwegian names, but it is worth mentioning that a proposed move to 1. divisjon in 2018 reached no consensus. Another question to be had is whether the word "Division" should be capitalised or not. Also keep in mind that there are of course many templates, categories and season pages that go with these articles that would also have to be moved should this proposal be accepted. Sørhaug (talk) 11:37, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- 2. divisjon → ?
- 3. divisjon → ?
- 4. divisjon → ?
- 5. divisjon → ?
- 1. divisjon (women) → ?
- (Discuss) – Vizol Koso → Vizol Angami – I'm unable been able to find any reliable source which mentions his name as Vizol Koso. On the other hand, Morung Express and the Information & Public Relation Department of the Government of Nagaland mention his name as Vizol Angami. This was the original name of the article and we should revert to that. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:40, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2021 United Kingdom fuel panic buying → 2021 United Kingdom fuel crisis – Growing talk page consensus. Many reasons for the crisis, onus should not be on "panic buying". The other article at the latter (which is now a disambiguation link) can be mentioned in hatnote. Bangalamania (talk) 22:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Thopia Zenevisi → Depë Zenebishi – Most common English language name. Djks1 (talk) 18:51, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Simon Zenevisi → Simon Zenebishi – Most common English name. Djks1 (talk) 18:40, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Swiss-model → SWISS-MODEL – Proper name (used in article text and all sources) and per talk request · • SUM1 • · (talk) 18:15, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – June 1976 (month) → June 1976 – As primary topic. Disambig is unneeded here. 91.124.117.75 (talk) 16:08, 23 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisted. 2pou (talk) 17:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – FC Zimbru in European football → FC Zimbru Chișinău in European football – This would be the standard way of naming this article. It should line up with its main article FC Zimbru Chișinău, and its other sub-articles: List of FC Zimbru Chișinău seasons and List of FC Zimbru Chișinău managers. The two latter articles have curiously enough been made and named by Kolya77, who opposes this move (see page history). Most Eastern European clubs use the same naming structure, where their city is included in their name. Take a look at these three pages for example: Category:Football clubs in Russia, Category:Football clubs in Moldova and List of football clubs in Ukraine. You will have to look for a while to find a team without its city in its name, personally I couldn't even find one. So, as you can see, the move from FC Zimbru in European football to FC Zimbru Chișinău in European football would be the standard. Sørhaug (talk) 06:45, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Conservation and restoration of cultural property → Art conservation – The shortest and common name of the topic of this article. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 02:18, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fram (disambiguation) → Fram – No clear primary topic, although the ship gets more views than the band some other uses like Framlingham are higher[[26]]. I'm using the date for the ship because there is also a 2006 ship at MS Fram but if that isn't called just "Fram" then Fram (ship) may be OK but on Commons there is also Commons:Category:Fram (ship, 1899), Commons:Category:Fram (ship, 1901), Commons:Category:Fram (ship, 1909), Commons:Category:Fram (ship, 1985), Commons:Category:Fram ÞH 62 (ship, 1985) and Commons:Category:Fram (ship, 2007) and several images in Commons:Category:Ships named Fram. Google results are mixed as are Images and Books. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:35, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Troy VII → Troy VI/VII – As explained in Troy#Troy_VI-VII, current scholarship considers Troy VII to be a continuation of Troy VI. Most of the text one could add here would apply to Troy VI as well, so it would be better to have an article that covers both (and redirect both "Troy VII" and "Troy VI" here.) Botterweg14 (talk) 14:58, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Giovanni Esposito → Giovanni Esposito (comedian) – Page Giovanni Esposito (general) has been created and this will avoid confusion --Jannizzero1 (talk) 12:26, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Foreigner (comics) → The Foreigner (comics) – In the article, "The Foreigner" is used 15 times, "the Foreigner" 18 times, and "Foreigner" without "The" or "the" 4 times in the body text – all in the last paragraph of the biography section. I therefore suggest that the name of this character is actually "The Foreigner", and not just "Foreigner". I'm no expert in Marvel comics, but I looked through a few other well-known characters and noticed by way of comparison that The Hulk is a redirect to Hulk: I presume that consensus is that "Hulk" is the common name for that character, especially as it discusses variants such as The Incredible Hulk. But that article does not exclusively call the character "The" (or "the") Hulk, also just "Hulk", and even on its talk page there are varied uses of "Hulk" with or without "The"/"the". WP:NCC/THE sensibly says Remember to only include initial "The" when appropriate" and defers to the general naming conventions. But if the character is usually or exclusively named with "the" or "The", it seems appropriate to have it in the title. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 06:06, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mahela Jayawardene → Mahela Jayawardena – Mahela uses the spelling Jayawardena in his social media profiles. * Twitter, * Instagram, * Facebook. All of them are verified accounts. The current title is from Cricinfo I assume, which is a little unreliable when it comes to Sinhalese and Tamil name spellings.--Chanaka L (talk) 16:28, 17 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:45, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Duke and Duchess of Windsor's 1937 tour of Germany → 1937 tour of Germany by the Duke and Duchess of Windsor – Better encyclopedic title. Peter Ormond 💬 02:42, 18 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:25, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trowse → Trowse Newton – This is the name of the settlement. It appears that the there was a settlement called "Trowse" to the north east of "Trowse Newton" and a settlement called "Newton" to the east[27] however this article appears to deal with mainly the "Trowse Newton" part and also discusses other parts. The ONS BUA (which is concurrent with the parish) is also "Trowse Newton" The parish is as noted called "Trowse with Newton" but may well be an alternative name for "Trowse Newton" and like Aston-on-Trent (village) and Aston upon Trent (parish) generally we use the village's name of the parish is an alternative name. The article could be split but it doesn't seem likely "Trowse" and "Newton" are notable and it would probably be better to have them in 1 article. The parish could be split but as noted it seems like its synonymous with the village "Trowse Newton". Thoughts on what to do? Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:41, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Türkmendemirýollary → Demirýollary – The company was established in 2020, and is officially legally named "Demirýollary" without the word "Turkmen". https://turkmenportal.com/blog/24931/agentstvo-zheleznodorozhnyh-putei-turkmenistana-sozdalo-svoe-akcionernoe-podrazdelenie This is confirmed by their official website and English-language media. https://www.railwaygazette.com/traction-and-rolling-stock/diesel-locos-delivered-to-turkmenistan/60002.article Thanks! --65.21.244.96 (talk) 15:27, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Denis Pack-Beresford (MP) → Denis Pack-Beresford – Currently Denis Pack-Beresford is a two-entry disambiguation page. The MP's son Denis Robert Pack-Beresford seems to have been known by this name (e.g. in the death notice of his brother here). So we are disambiguating the father and son using two different styles: "parenthetical" for the father and "natural" for the son. That's not a problem in itself, but I'm trying to determine consensus on whether we have a primary topic. We do have a redirect Denis Pack-Beresford (entomologist), and his bibliography lists his papers as "Pack-Beresford, D. R.", so the question is was he commonly called "Denis Robert", "Denis R."[1] or just "Denis"? (I note that book title replaces the hyphen with a space, too.) Page views since 2015 are 2034 for the entomologist son and 885 for the politician father, but that's really irrelevant as I don't think the son is primary topic for "Denis Pack-Beresford". In that case, the MP father should be at that title, with a hatnote. In the alternative, if "Denis Robert" is not in fact the MOS:COMMONNAME for the entomologist, we should not use it as a disambiguating phrase, and instead move him over Denis Pack-Beresford (entomologist), or over Denis Pack-Beresford as the primary topic. I also note that the article lede states that the MP was known as Denis William Pack until 1857.
References
- ^ Harding, Paul T. (1980). A catalogue of the papers of Denis R. Pack Beresford at the library of the Royal Irish Academy. Institute of Terrestrial Ecology.
- 85.67.32.244 (talk) 06:13, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Fernando Mezzasoma → Ferdinando Mezzasoma – The vast majority of sources mention him as Ferdinando Mezzasoma, not Fernando. --Jannizzero1 (talk) 16:12, 18 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 05:23, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – SportsNet New York → SNY – SNY is not referred to as Sportsnet New York by the network or by viewers. They don't advertise that name. For ease of use SNY should be SNY on Wikipedia, matching up with on air branding and advertising. This matches up with WP:Criteria naturalness. Mannysoloway (talk) 13:05, 23 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 04:07, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sérgio Mendes (album) → Sergio Mendes (1983 album) – Neither the album cover nor the article's sources use an accented é. With or without an accent, the title needs disambiguating from the 1975 album of the same title. — AjaxSmack 03:24, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mission Peak → Mission Peak Regional Preserve – The article discusses a lot about the park itself as opposed to discussing purely about Mission Peak. This also makes it more consistent with other EBRPD parks' names. We could use a redirect at "Mission Peak" to Mission Peak Regional Preserve to accomodate for people who refer to it as "Mission Peak" 206.213.190.64 (talk) 21:19, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Acanthocercus annectans → Acanthocercus annectens – The majority of taxonomic databases use the spelling "Acanthocercus annectens". (Links are available in the article's taxonbar, at the bottom of the the desktop version of the article). It is true that the spelling "Acanthocercus annectans" is used in Blanford's original description, but the IUCN uses "annectens" and says "annectans" is "orth. error" in the taxonomy section of the assessment. William Avery (talk) 18:19, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Kartikeya → Murugan – Murugan is the common name for this Tamil deity. Britannica has it titled as Murugan and not Kartikeya, Kartikeya does not even find a mention in the same Britannica article, that mentions Skanda as the alternate name of Murugan, I belive Britannica has got it right and Wikipedia should do the same. Searching for Murugan on Google gave Seven times more results than the number of results for Kartikeya. In literature also Murugan is more common than Kartikeya. Temples of this deity around the world (Malaysia, USA etc) are known as Murugan temple. Following Wikipedia's WP:COMMONNAME policy this should be renamed to Murugan. Venkat TL (talk) 12:55, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Mo Abualnadi → Mohammad Abualnadi – WP:COMMONNAME per [28][29] Joeykai (talk) 04:14, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – OZY (media company) → Ozy (media company) – Per WP:TITLETM, style an all-caps company name in title case White 720 (talk) 01:23, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Thomas Wainwright (disambiguation) → Thomas Wainwright – No WP:PRIMARYTOPIC by page views or long-term significance, so DAB should be at base name. The footballer has to be disambiguated further as per WP:NCSP; there's another English footballer named Tom Wainwright (legal name Thomas), so birthyear is perhaps best disambiguator. Page view stats [here]. Ortizesp (talk) 22:37, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Ozuna → Ozuna (disambiguation) – I just changed 76 links from Ozuna to Ozuna (singer). There are no other articles intentionally linking to Ozuna (other than disambiguation pages). The singer appears to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 22:16, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Siege of Petersburg → Richmond–Petersburg Campaign – This article is really about the campaign, which according to the National Park Service stops a few days before the siege ends (in the beginning of the Appomattox Campaign). So naming it after the siege becomes very confusing, when that is just the central feature of the campaign. I am indifferent as to whether campaign should be capitalized; it is in some Civil War campaign articles and not in others. –CWenger (^ • @) 01:10, 23 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 22:09, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Italian Fasces of Combat → Fasci Italiani di Combattimento – "Italian Fasces of Combat" is the literal translation of the Italian name, but it does not give the idea of its true meaning, which would be "Italian fighting bands" or "Italian fighting leagues" (Britannica, History.com etc.), so I think that the Italian name is the best solution for this page. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:05, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Carlos Peña → Carlos Peña (baseballer) – No indication that Dominican baseballer Carlos Felipe Peña is the primary topic of "Carlos Peña". Carlos Peña is a common name and surname in Spanish-speaking countries. Dentren | Talk 08:12, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Sobibór (village) → Sobibór – The points raised in the recently concluded Talk:Sócrates#Requested move 28 August 2021 may well be applicable to this RM. A key argument posited that it would be counterintuitive to move Sócrates to Sócrates (footballer) if in the aftermath of such a move, the plain name Sócrates were to continue as a redirect to Sócrates (footballer). To quote two of the arguments there, "The philosopher is never spelt with a diacritic in English, so it can only really refer to the footballer as a primary topic" and "this leads to a completely nonsensical conclusion: either Sócrates redirects to Sócrates (footballer), which is absolutely absurd (see WP:R, among other policies); or Sócrates redirects to a dab page or to the philosopher, which is ridiculous because pretty much anyone who bothers to put the accent is looking for the soccer player." The same applies in these two cases — Sobibór redirects to Sobibór (village) and Bełżec redirects to Bełżec (village). Likewise, pretty much anyone who bothers to put the diacritics is looking for the Polish villages, not the World War II German death camps. Of course, as in the articles for the philosopher and the footballer, there are hatnotes atop the entries for the villages and the death camps for the 1% who may be confused. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:22, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Triplemanía → Triplemania – Per WP:UE: The choice between anglicized and local spellings should follow English-language usage. English-language reliable sources ([30] [31] [32] [33]...) most often refer to this event as Triplemania with no accent. Note that Category:Triplemanía and other articles and templates would also be affected by this proposed move. 162 etc. (talk) 21:29, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – 2019 Sammarinese general election → 2019 San Marino general election – Should this article and other similar ones (those listed in the template at the bottom) be moved to titles of the following form: "[Year] San Marino [election/appropriate term]" ? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:24, 27 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 09:44, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- 1906 Sammarinese general election → 1906 San Marino general election
- 1909 Sammarinese general election → 1909 San Marino general election
- 1912 Sammarinese general election → 1912 San Marino general election
- 1915 Sammarinese general election → 1915 San Marino general election
- 1918 Sammarinese general election → 1918 San Marino general election
- 1920 Sammarinese general election → 1920 San Marino general election
- 1923 Sammarinese general election → 1923 San Marino general election
- 1926 Sammarinese general election → 1926 San Marino general election
- 1932 Sammarinese general election → 1932 San Marino general election
- 1938 Sammarinese general election → 1938 San Marino general election
- 1943 Sammarinese general election → 1943 San Marino general election
- 1945 Sammarinese general election → 1945 San Marino general election
- 1949 Sammarinese general election → 1949 San Marino general election
- 1951 Sammarinese general election → 1951 San Marino general election
- 1955 Sammarinese general election → 1955 San Marino general election
- 1959 Sammarinese general election → 1959 San Marino general election
- 1964 Sammarinese general election → 1964 San Marino general election
- 1969 Sammarinese general election → 1969 San Marino general election
- 1974 Sammarinese general election → 1974 San Marino general election
- 1978 Sammarinese general election → 1978 San Marino general election
- 1983 Sammarinese general election → 1983 San Marino general election
- 1988 Sammarinese general election → 1988 San Marino general election
- 1993 Sammarinese general election → 1993 San Marino general election
- 1998 Sammarinese general election → 1998 San Marino general election
- 2001 Sammarinese general election → 2001 San Marino general election
- 2006 Sammarinese general election → 2006 San Marino general election
- 2008 Sammarinese general election → 2008 San Marino general election
- 2012 Sammarinese general election → 2012 San Marino general election
- 2016 Sammarinese general election → 2016 San Marino general election
- 1906 Sammarinese Constitutional Assembly election → 1906 San Marino Constitutional Assembly election
- 1997 Sammarinese local elections → 1997 San Marino local elections
- 1998 Sammarinese local elections → 1998 San Marino local elections
- 1999 Sammarinese local elections → 1999 San Marino local elections
- 2003 Sammarinese local elections → 2003 San Marino local elections
- 2004 Sammarinese local elections → 2004 San Marino local elections
- 2009 Sammarinese local elections → 2009 San Marino local elections
- 2014 Sammarinese local elections → 2014 San Marino local elections
- 2020 Sammarinese local elections → 2020 San Marino local elections
- 1906 Sammarinese citizenry meeting → 1906 San Marino citizenry meeting
- 1982 Sammarinese citizenship referendum → 1982 San Marino citizenship referendum
- 1996 Sammarinese electoral law referendum → 1996 San Marino electoral law referendum
- 1997 Sammarinese referendum → 1997 San Marino referendum
- 1999 Sammarinese citizenship referendum → 1999 San Marino citizenship referendum
- 2003 Sammarinese voting system referendum → 2003 San Marino voting system referendum
- 2005 Sammarinese electoral law referendum → 2005 San Marino electoral law referendum
- 2008 Sammarinese referendum → 2008 San Marino referendum
- 2011 Sammarinese public property referendum → 2011 San Marino public property referendum
- 2013 Sammarinese referendum → 2013 San Marino referendum
- 2014 Sammarinese referendum → 2014 San Marino referendum
- 2016 Sammarinese referendum → 2016 San Marino referendum
- 2019 Sammarinese referendum → 2019 San Marino referendum
- (Discuss) – Bir Shumsher Jang Bahadur Rana → Bir Shumsher Jung Bahadur Rana – They were named after Jung Bahadur Rana which uses the right spelling of "Jung". Bada Kaji (talk • श्रीमान् गम्भीर) 10:57, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- Dev Shumsher Jang Bahadur Rana → Dev Shumsher Jung Bahadur Rana
- Chandra Shumsher Jang Bahadur Rana → Chandra Shumsher Jung Bahadur Rana
- Bhim Shamsher Jang Bahadur Rana → Bhim Shamsher Jung Bahadur Rana
- Juddha Shumsher Jang Bahadur Rana → Juddha Shumsher Jung Bahadur Rana
- Padma Shumsher Jang Bahadur Rana → Padma Shumsher Jung Bahadur Rana
- Mohan Shumsher Jang Bahadur Rana → Mohan Shumsher Jung Bahadur Rana
- Baber Shamsher Jang Bahadur Rana → Baber Shamsher Jung Bahadur Rana
- (Discuss) – Anthony Grant (disambiguation) → Anthony Grant – There's no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC by page views or long-term significance, so DAB should be at base name and basketball coach further disambiguated. Page view stats here: [[34]] - basketball coach only had significantly more page views 1 or 2 months in the last couple of years. Ortizesp (talk) 21:52, 8 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 15:19, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Richard Gwyn (martyr) → Richard Gwyn – Primary topic per long term significance. Richard Gwyn (Canadian writer) and Richard Gwyn (Welsh writer) are less notable. Sahaib3005 (talk) 17:05, 8 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 15:18, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Norwegian Parliamentary Ombudsman → Norwegian Parliamentary Ombud – Name was changed by law Max-Sei (talk) 22:39, 16 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Adumbrativus (talk) 01:43, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Csangos → Csángós – Seems to be the correct name of this people. We already use diacritics for the article Székelys and would consider "Szekely" incorrect and fix it, so I don't see why this would be any different for the Csángós. Context for people without knowledge of the area: the Székelys and the Csángós are Hungarian subgroups outside Hungary, the first lives in Transylvania and the second in Moldavia, both in Romania (which is divided into three regions, the third being Wallachia). By the way, it isn't like Csangos is some kind of compromise for the Romanians, it is still pretty much the same name as the Hungarian one. For all of this, I see no reason for keeping this name without diacritics. For those wondering about what do reliable sources say, results are mixed [35]. I see Csángós more often than Csangos though. Also note the category of this people uses diacritics. Super Ψ Dro 21:42, 14 September 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 18:50, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- (Discuss) – Trimeresurus albolabris → White-lipped pit viper – Unambiguous and well accepted common name (with the Cryptelytrops proposal as an additional supporting factor). — BarrelProof (talk) 17:05, 6 September 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Havelock Jones (talk) 16:19, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Malformed requests
- Talk:Glossary of engineering: A–L – Pagename to be moved listed below template: Glossary of engineering does not match name in template: Glossary of engineering: A–L. – Page may have been moved to the requested title.
Possibly incomplete requests
- Talk:Battle of Horseshoe Bend (1814) – Battle of Horseshoe Bend (1814) is requested for move to Battle of Horseshoe Bend, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:The New School at West Heath – The New School at West Heath is requested for move to West Heath School, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Clement C. Davies – Clement C. Davies is requested for move to Clement Davies, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Rodney Clarke (figure skater) – Rodney Clarke (figure skater) is requested for move to Rodney Clarke, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Denis Pack-Beresford (MP) – Denis Pack-Beresford (MP) is requested for move to Denis Pack-Beresford, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Tyler Rogers (baseball) – Tyler Rogers (baseball) is requested for move to Tyler Rogers, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:2021 United Kingdom fuel panic buying – 2021 United Kingdom fuel panic buying is requested for move to 2021 United Kingdom fuel crisis, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
- Talk:Basavaraj Bommai ministry – Basavaraj Bommai ministry is requested for move to Bommai ministry, which has non-redirecting content and is not requested for move
References
See also
- Wikipedia:Requested moves/Article alerts, which includes a list of recently closed, as well as open discussions
- Category:Wikipedia title cleanup
- Category:Wikipedia title cleanup (sorted by template)