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Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialogue, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.

Martin, As you archive so regularly (unlike some editors ...) I thought that this would
a) Brighten up your page, and
b) Add a serious tone amidst all the hilarity.
All the best to you and yours –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 11:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. A lovely picture. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:03, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I have made a little seasonal update - hope you don't mind! Martinevans123 (talk) 09:02, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Not at all. The snow has almost vanished.
A Christian feast commemorating the resurrection of Christ; the first Sunday following the full moon that occurs on or next after the vernal equinox, neither earlier than March 22 nor later than April 25.
I hate this BST ... why can't we stick with good old GMT? (... it follows the sun after all)
Cheers!
— Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 10:27, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

• A brand of choc ice manufactured by the British Wall's ice cream
• the act of eating

now, I ask you, what kind of alphabetical (or significance) order is that?!!

Yours, aye John Lemon

Have always loved that record. Good compilation of photographs ... who is the geezer in the middle — at 1 min 32 secs? –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

For some reason, he always reminded me of Nixon!

Oh! Of course. I knew that really –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 20:47, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Jukebox

... my own personal permanent fixture tribute...

You turn your back for a just a second and some strange Swedish person sneaks in and steals your records!!

Please don't donate generously any more (.... and add whatever you like!!):

Jukeboxland - never try and sneakily enter at your own risk
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
All deleted, on the advice of User:Fram, in case there is a copyright problem.

Blocks all round?

!

"They've got womanly breasts under pale mauve vests,

Shoes like dead pigs' noses,

Cornflake packet jacket, catalogue trousers,

A mouth what never closes."

Please, Mr. Admin-robot, don't be a Blockhead.

Oi! Oi! ... Cornflake packet jacket, catalogue trousers, A mouth what never closes...

Their shapeless haircuts don't enhance, Their ghastly patterned shirts.. (allegedly)

"I'm a tail dragger, I wipe out my tracks"

• What do you call a boomerang that doesn't come back? A stick!

• I couldn't quite remember how to throw a boomerang, but eventually it came back to me.Boing

• The other day I held the door open for a clown. I thought it was a nice jester.clown

Father Jackum's polyphonic retort generator

Enjoy .micro.dot.cotton (talk) 18:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

"OMFG". Not seen you for a while, Dot! I thought you'd been sent down for at least 30 years for giving Nasty Nick his last ever WP:GAR. But what a lovely musical gift! Hours of Manchester fun. lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:32, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

There's a lot of malicious tongues round 'ere, and you know me, I ain't one to gossip, but apparently Ethel's ghost still lurks in the corridors, and has been seen at night asking "where's my willy?" .micro.dot.cotton (talk) 19:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Ooo, tongues-a-wagging, eh? That's the last thing you need, dearie. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:57, 26 September 2015 (UTC) ... but everyone needs a friendly ghost!

[2] EEng (talk) 20:40, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

A great tool for all new users, I feel... "Big hello to big Father Jack Wayne, xylophone." Martinevans123 (talk) 21:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC) In years to come, future civilisations will say "Ah, so Wikipedia was useful, after all."

Editor of the Week

		Editor of the Week
		Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week for your determination and dedication to help the encyclopedia grow. Thank you for the great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

User:Ritchie333 submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

Coming up to 9 years of service and 77,000 edits, Martinevans123 is truly one of the unsung heroes of Wikipedia. On the surface, you may know him for his witty banter and Private Eye-esque visual humour, which I always enjoy, but beneath the surface lies someone who toils away day in, day out, on keeping articles in better shape. He doesn't go for the big awards like GAs and FAs, but he really does make the encyclopedia better without much reward. This nomination was seconded by User:Yash! and User:MelanieN.

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Martinevans123

A Tarot Card

Editor of the Week for the week beginning February 27, 2016

9 years and 77,000 plus edits, wit and humor hide an unsung hero. Daily work at articles to make the encyclopedia better without much reward.

Recognized for

his witty banter and Private Eye-esque visual humour

Nomination page

Thanks again for your efforts! Buster Seven Talk 19:35, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Right, that's it! Please accept my resignation! 19:43, 27 February 2016 (UTC) p.s. but many thanks, anyway. That was really unexpected. I am deeply touched. (allegedly)

The award is usually distributed on Sunday. Due to the unexpected amount of touching displayed on this page you have been penalized with an additional day as Editor of the Week. This matter has not been discussed with the other WER clerks (Are there any other WER clerks?) and cannot be rescinded or changed in any way. Buster Seven Talk 20:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm very pleased to see that you are keeping up the old traditions. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:01, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• Very well deserved it for your amazing contributions! Congratulations! Yash! 20:11, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Haha. Well, as Debbie might say .... "I'm always touched by your presents, dear." Martinevans123 (talk) 20:52, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• ... as I said three years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• Gerda, I will always treasure your precious music-related gift... in fact, I've had it sewn into my Blackforest lederhosen weightlifting belt. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:58, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Better as part of the Charivari, I guess, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh yes. "Rough "cat" music" sounds fine to me! [3]. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

We miss an article on your trophee, seriously! Cat music is not all there is to it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, as Google tells me: "Traditionally, it is used by men in the codpiece of costume lederhosen worn." I'll see what I can do! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:21, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

It has come to the attention of the Editor Retentions' Board of Clerks that you may, perhaps, could be, in possession of a much desired and rarely displayed Official Wikipedia T-shirt. The report states that it is black with the The Wikipedia Globe prominently displayed. The report further states that you may have had your name imprinted on the front (potentially an act of vandalism). This would imply that you have already received accolades and "pats on the back" for your efforts. If that is, in fact, the case you may suffer the misfortune of having an additional day added to your week. The issue is under review. You will be advised ASAP. Buster Seven Talk 22:07, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

To be honest, I often do feel just like running away.... But chosing the right t-shirt can be such a delicate task (boyo) Martinevans123 (talk) 22:42, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Many many congrats M. This is well deserved - thanks so much for all you do here at WikiP. MarnetteD|Talk 22:29, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, MarnetteD. That's very nice of you. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:50, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

• All I can say is ... WTF? Softlavender (talk) 02:08, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

• Just chill, Softy. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:44, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

• All I can say is Runaway was one of my favorites at 14 yrs old. Buster Seven Talk 05:20, 28 February 2016 (UTC). You can keep the Award!!! Buster Seven Talk 05:20, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

@Ritchie333:: please confirm receipt of that large Paypal payment, which seems to have paid off this time. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:10, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

I thought we were just going to settle quietly for a pony and a Greek island? Draws less attention to the taxman. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:04, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Darn it, Threesie! There's no need to make a song and dance about this. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:08, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Jeez.... talk about an "embarrassment of riches".... I now appear looking like some medieval ballet dancer, wielding a rustic baseball bat, with a low-slung Bavarian jockstrap and half-mast socks from the trenches. Do you take me for a complete fool?? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:37, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

I count myself very lucky to get this glittering award. A Ram Invents123 (talk) 13:08, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Um....the baseball bat is more of a fungo bat, actually. It's used to hit fly balls to the outfielders during batting practice. And the Bavarian jockstrap is, um, obviously for someone that is well-endowed. Plus, its a Fool card. Not a Complete Fool card. I thought you would like it. The tights have a "slimming" quality, don't ya think? Buster Seven Talk 07:14, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Well, that's me corrected and suitably slimmed. But you know what they say "... wherever the US Army goes, the fungos too. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

• Richly deserved but surely questions must be asked?! However, a celebratory clue is deserved: 123 across, Confused road tract deals a trump (5,4). As a long term fan of your work I go weak at the knees at this award but supporter wilt is dangerous. By the way, Rob Evans wants to know if he can have his sock back if you've finished posing... 321 Vas Boner (talk) 21:53, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

• Ah yes, boyo bach, you must be one of the "Boners of Bonymaen." Very big in the valleys, by all accounts! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:10, 29 February 2016 (UTC) p.s. those "Buster 7 socks" are a flashy and contemporary fashion statement and I'm not giving them back!!

So long as they are good herding dog socks with a royal pedigree, then hang on to them, but do keep them pulled up. Robevans123 (talk) 23:34, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Ah, feck!

My Mrs Doyle tribute edit

RIP Frank. Shaken but never stirred. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:47, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Now, and what do you say to a WikiCup? "Feck off, cup!" Mrs Doyle ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:54, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Ah, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on..... Martinhacket123 (talk) 14:05, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Amateur Hour.ogg

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Have replaced at Amateur Hour (song) with a copyright-compliant video of full song. Not sure the clip can be justified at Kimono My House, so may have to be removed. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:38, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Hapus!

Felinfoel Brewery was the first brewery outside the US to sell beer in cans!

Hi Martin, hope that you're well. Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Hapus! JezGrove (talk) 11:44, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Cheers Jez! Still celebrating from Saturday, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Of course! Have a Double Dragon for me! JezGrove (talk) 12:47, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

March flowers

Today: Carmen for TFA (on my request), with Bizet's music "expressing the emotions and suffering of his characters" as Brian worded it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

A big up to Beyoncé!! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

you made me smile --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

watch today Skylla and Charybdis (Waterhouse), please, see talk - if you want to listen: link on my talk, together with my first DYK, and one for the composer's 50th birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:49, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks, Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:03, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

I listened live, and can still call it, [4] - with one piece dedicated to the memory of a Welsh composer, Dafydd Llywelyn, I think I mentioned that, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

today (IWD): MMMM with a reference to Carmen again --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Hattie: you probably talk to the Master. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

All very mysterious. It seems I didn't realise that "adding unsourced material" actually means "Are readers considered so dense they need the same information repeating two paragraphs later?" Martinevans123 (talk) 11:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Not mysterious at all. El C, archive 20. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

That's very cryptic, Gerda. I was mightily disappointed to be awarded only 7 face palms. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:49, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Probably not worth looking, but there, the IP I met - looking similar - requested me to not thank for the TFA. No facepalm in sight. I said several times I wish he'd edit under his real name. Did you know that The Rite of Spring will be TFA on 6 April? Remember the discussion growing before and during arbinfobox? All history. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Spam of antidepressants articles

In regard to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fluoxetine&curid=10153680&diff=1010264578&oldid=1010264498. The same IP also spammed Sertraline, Venlafaxine, Serotonin–norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, and Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor with exactly the same text. I reverted some of it but really do not want to engage into an edit war. Can there be some kind of admin remedy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Sceptical Chymist (talk • contribs) 16:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. The sources look good: Irving Kirsch has an article. So, it's well-thought-out and not vandalism. But it does look like spamming and editing against consensus. Best to discuss at one of the article Talk pages, to which the IP can be invited, but not sure which one. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

References
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
References

I've opened a thread at Talk:Venlafaxine. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Texas Boom!!

"I love the way you walk, I love the way you talk, not sure about after the landing." It did all look like something from Gerry Anderson:[5] "... and I feel I should warn you, it ends rather abruptly!" --Martinevans123 (talk) 20:27, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

John Lee Hooker is indeed awesome. I watched the video of his song, that you linked to, and I'm particularly impressed with how he sang without moving his lips. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Hmmm, yes, Billy and Dusty not exactly leaping about either were they. Mr. Hooker obviously missed his vocation. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC) Very glad you enjoyed that video. Really not sure why Frosty the Snowman gets a copyright credit in the "SHOW MORE" section!?

Regarding Malaysian Airlines 370 Article

I have seen you twice reverted by changes to the article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370_disappearance_theories, could you please explain whats wrong with it. While I am new to Wikipedia, so if I am talking to you at wrong place please let me know that too. I tried to add value to the MH370 article. Today Mh370 completed 7 years of disappearance, and I found this great article so considered it good to mention this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adityamilyin (talk • contribs) 14:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Adityamilyin. Thanks for your note. The best place to discuss your addition is over at Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappearance theories. I had to repair the article as you had tried to added an unnecessary subsection heading at the top. But I also have doubts about the source you used and the claims it makes. Other editors may wish to discuss it. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, well everything is misinformation considering the fact that the MH370 investigation never gave a conclusion, on to the point of me not mentioning sources, well I am new to Wikipedia, please advice how to properly do that, first of all I clearly mentioned that Ministry of Malaysia was still investigating the prospect of a possible atempt to make a call, and it is true that Co-Pilot's cell phone briefly connected to a tower. Secondly you mentioned the subsection, okay may be I should have added it as a part of some other section itself rather than creating a new section, it is clearly in the ATC records that Ho Chi Minh called after 18 minutes, while the internation rule is to do it within 5 minutes. And internation rules also say that a fighter jet should be close to the aircraft within 20 minutes, in case of a potential threat and loss communications. This is standard rule, it has happened with Helios Flight 522 too. The standard rule was not followed, and that too is in government records. The url I mentioned was just because I found the explanation of that URL really good and precise, else I have mentioned that the 18 minute delay was from ATC, and it is genreally known that no fighter jet was known, and the Wikipedia article had already mentioned that the inital searches werre in South China sea, but that information further just explained that if INMARSAT was used early possible debris could be found. Weather reports of same time also show that 2 cyclones happened in its approx crash location. Also, we do not have direct link for the government records, it is public but not directly available on internet, and weather report if you want I can add, by finding it from internet, nothing has been cooked up by me, and I mentioned that site, because the text I added in wikipedia was a direct copy paste from that site, https://milyin.com/mh370-update-2021-what-happened-to-mh370-mystery/#11 the heading that says "Was the MH370 Shot down? Or was there any country that wanted to revenge?" has the exact text used in the wikipedia edit of mine, while it isnt a source, it definitely is a great explanation, also there is no need for worrying about plaigarism, I have the permission from the owner of that site to use the text here. Please suggest what I can do to get my edit back. Looking forward to your reply. Will Weather report, and removing subheading be enough? Adityamilyin (talk) 18:04, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Adityamilyin, the best place to discuss your addition is over at Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappearance theories. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

an old pal

I came across this when I noticed the editor disruptively editing some women's health articles. They are not as new as they seem. Thought you may want to know. CUPIDICAE💕 17:03, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks for that. The same tiny, gnomic and seemingly pointless edits, supported by nearly incomprehensible rambling and overly-complicated explanations? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Pretty much. Yep. I told him if they were going to sock they should probably work on being more coherent. Why they've chosen to mess up articles related to women's health with their nonsense, I haven't got a clue. CUPIDICAE💕 17:46, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I must admit, I am also somewhat baffled. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

And now indef bocked as a sockpuppet of Whalestate. What a complete waste of time that all was. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Yup. I'm a little disappointed it took that long. CUPIDICAE💕 19:06, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Tedder

No, not "lol". You know these are not acceptable sources. This does not confirm "Some tedders have the rotating tines enclosed inside a solid structure to increase the force applied to the hay" or that the two you mentioned are similar to...similar to what? The YouTube videos don't confirm the text (and there are no words, and it's YouTube videos, etc), and so even if they were somehow reliable they don't source the text. Come on--this is silly. Drmies (talk) 19:01, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

I think the videos not only provide ample evidence that these machines exist, but also do a very good job of showing how they work. I'm also pretty sure that acceptable textual sources will be available somewhere. I expect, just like me, you're already busy looking for them. Until they can be located, I guess small adjustments to the text and/or adding back in {{cn}} tags would be perfectly acceptable. I'd have to agree with you that that source is not a very useful one, so I've removed it. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Martin, that they exist doesn't mean anything, you know that. No I'm not looking for stuff. I already wrote the article, and dedicated it to User:tedder, and I think I did a pretty good job. I see on the talk page that you showed an interest in this in 2010 already--surely ten years of research should suffice for finding acceptable sources. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Dr. Mies, Very sorry I've scored such low marks after a full ten ten years. I must have got distracted. So, you "already wrote the article"? My hearty congratulations. Please dispense with any links to problematic videos that might mess up your dedication. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Uhh oh, what am I trouble for now? And can I use my username as a citation? tedder (talk) 03:56, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm the one in trouble, Ted, for not doing my haymaking homework for the last 10 years. I think you can use it, as long as it doesn't involve a YouTube video. I feel so out of condition. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:35, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

7-48

Rees-Lightnin' does it again! Scusate gli Azzurri, meritate di averne di più! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:18, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Looking forward to Super Saturday.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Rees-Zammit is joint leading try-scorer. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

About the F-16 WIKI page

The current wiki page about F-16's climb rate is completely wrong: It says the F-16C block50 has only 254m/s climb rate at sea level, and the source is its flight manual. However, I am not seeing any "254m/s" from its flight manual. However the manual proves that it sustains a 1200ft/sec (370m/s) climb rate even in a 4.2G ascending turn, which means it can sustain even higher rate in straight line climb! https://i.postimg.cc/hthftrg7/Figure-B8-37-F-16-C-block50-supplement-manual.png Please let me correct this, otherwise it's misleading and will cause under-estimation of F-16's performance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldtimesake (talk • contribs) 00:40, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

You need to discuss this at Talk:General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

I posted and I am waiting for your response: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:General_Dynamics_F-16_Fighting_Falcon#F-16C_block50%27s_climb_rate_is_not_254m%2Fs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldtimesake (talk • contribs) 01:09, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Sad news

Very sorry to hear of the loss of Yoninah, who always seemed to me to be the essence of good sense and friendly collaboration. I'm posting this tune, from Luca Sestak, in her memory: [6] Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, great music. I posted Psalm 84, pictured on my talk. How lovely is your dwelling place. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:47, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, the guy's a genius. He's 26! He was playing perfect boogie-woogie to millions at the age of 11. He now shows that he also has amazing musical imagination. A lot like that other jazz piano genius. Yoninah was a great editor. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

She was. We wrote the psalm article together, made hundreds of DYKs together (often not agreeing), - my name is 40 times on her present (truncated) talk, DYK? Look for "touching the world of angels". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

"Touching the World of Angels is not a book about death, but about life – the precious, oh-so-elusive vision we all seek, consciously or subconsciously, to make sense of our existence." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Profound words. And let's not forget the rest of us fallen angels (I assume this must be from the 2007 "Remastered & Expanded", Max Bennett on wonderful bass) ... footnotes. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:17, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

After nobody did, I wrote for the Signpost. - Today: Bach's cantata composed for today, - perhaps listen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

... and the first performance was on a Palm Sunday which is today, and Yoninah's obituary with the beginning of Passover today - putting some little ego-battles in perspective --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

James Watt

@Martinevans123, I'd like to expand upon James Watt's work on factious airs. There are several important contributions in the carbon monoxide space that should be mentioned on Watt's page. The page is protected, but it appears you have previous administered revisions. What is the best way to go about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SloppyTots (talk • contribs) 02:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi SloppyTots, yes James Watt is semi-protected. You can use Template:Edit semi-protected at Talk:James Watt. But you might want to look at WP:AUTOCONFIRM - you need to have an account that is at least 4 days old and has made at least 10 edits to the encyclopedia. Meanwhile I have now seen your edits under Talk:James Watt#Factitious Airs, so I will have a look if I can help. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Reference

Hi, do you have a reference for the pronunciation you added here? Thanks. ElAhrairah ^{inspect damage}⁄_berate 18:16, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Elahrairah. I can try and find one. Or you may be able to? I was basing my addition on the numerous radio, television and YouTube pieces on Rees-Zammit that I have heard over the past 12 months. The BBC commentary on the Grand Slam decider yesterday, would be a case in point. Do you know of anything different? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Here's an example. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Rescheduled Round 3 match

Champion leeks

Hogg tartan

The permutations are fairly straightforward, but for clarity:

If France win by less than 20 points, Wales are Champions, and England 5th.

If France win by over 20 points and score at least 4 tries, France are Champions and England 5th.

If Scotland win, Wales are Champions and England 5th.

If it’s a draw, Wales are Champions and England 5th.

If France win by 20 and score 5 tries, the championship is shared and England are 5th.

Woooo, 23–27. What a final match. Excellent refereeing from Wayne Barnes. A great effort from both sides. Another win in the final gruelling moments. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:11, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Wedgie

I just can't believe that that article exists – and it's been around for 15 years. Inanity triumphs again. (Not that I'm opposed to inanity per se.) – Sca (talk) 18:23, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, comforting isn't it. I see you have your own wedge over in the colonies. Meanwhile, here's another nice wedge for you. Might even be a monkey there! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:35, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I prefer the wedgie combo. – Sca (talk) 18:49, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

.... first the huge Suez wedgie, and now "Captain of the "Ever Given" painted a penis in the sea". Schoolboy humour abounds! Martinevans123 (talk) 18:46, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Balls! – Sca (talk) 18:51, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

You just have to have a poke don't you?! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:07, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm confused

about infoboxes. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:11, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm sure you're not alone. Some people find them quite horrible. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:15, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Can you be a bit more specific? Because it really matters for what. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah no! Deepfried! You've managed to flush out one of the hostile natives from the bushes, beating her relentless box drum!! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:28, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern for 25 March --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh go on then Incredibly beautiful! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

The FAC is open, and they complain about over-linking. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

El C, how is this link? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh well. You don't always see oboes da caccia in an orchestra, do you? Even for JSB. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:09, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Are oboes da caccia a kind of pasta dish? --Tryptofish (talk) 23:20, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Your're thinking of blinis. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah, yes! Cheers! --Tryptofish (talk) 23:27, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

now the music even made it to FA --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:42, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Radio fun post

I deleted it because it was by a banned user. --Viennese Waltz 13:12, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah I see. Your edit summary was a very successful trap, it seems! And your last one is a bit cryptic too! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:15, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I guess I'm guilty of assuming everyone knows what I'm talking about. VXFC stands for Vote (X) For Change, which is the username of the permanently banned user. --Viennese Waltz 13:19, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah yes, that rings a bell. Thanks for reminding me. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:21, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

New satellite image

Hello Martin-- please check the talk page of the satellite image of the ship in the Suez. I have some concerns about it. (I will be away from my computer and won't be available for a few hours to discuss.) Regards, Kablammo (talk) 18:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

What's the problem? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

That's the same question the captain of the ship asked. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:51, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Indeed. Yes, mercifully, the captain has not been named. Poor guy. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:56, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, Kablammo. It seems that image is currently coyvio. It has been taken from Twitter. It's clearly marked "MAXAR" and is credited to Maxar Technologies here. So I best take it out. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kablammo:, I have opened a discussion, at Commons, here. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:40, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Removal of descriptions

Martin, Have you seen this?
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I just did. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:57, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Now watching the magnificent Handel's Messiah from English National Opera, thanks to BBC Two: [7], [8] "Celebrated soloists including countertenor Iestyn Davies and mezzo-soprano Christine Rice are joined by rising stars Nadine Benjamin, Anthony Gregory, Nardus Williams, John Findon, William Thomas and Benson Wilson, while the conductor is renowned Handel expert Laurence Cummings." Martinevans123 (talk) 17:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Russia's greatest love machine

Quite good actually. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:01, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, comrade. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:31, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah yes, as in... "Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peckers"?? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:38, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Powis Castle

'Cloud-Clipped' Yew Hedge at Powis Castle

Hope the expansion pleases. The lead needs work, to fully summarise it, and I should lift more from the Pevsner, but it passed a pleasant Easter in lockdown. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 11:39, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

A great improvement, KJP. Well done! What's the general view on Galleries these days? Many garden photos to choose from in Commons. I visited about 10 years ago while staying in Llangollen. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:48, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

The view now on Architecture articles is that galleries are very acceptable. I was slightly disappointed by the range, there don’t appear to be any Good Pictures in the set, and the few of the interiors are poor. I believe the NT doesn’t allow interior photography. But there are some very nice ones. Add with gusto!

p.s. To my shame, I’ve never been! KJP1 (talk) 12:17, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

The clipped yew is quite amazing. Like something out of Middle Earth. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:24, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Looks like it might have been designed by Čiurlionis. – Sca (talk) 14:34, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

A great pioneering art nouveau and abstract artist. I am a big fan of his chocolate period. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:00, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

A devotee of Čurly Wurlies, are you? – Sca (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Of course. And the Čurly Wurlie Girlionis Method! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:29, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I once had curly hair. Now I just have old hair. Unexpectedly, I've developed a fondness for hats.

Haha. "Along for the ride are Little Cats A, B and C, who discover there’s wonder in nature once their electronic devices are powered off!" Martinevans123 (talk) 17:03, 10 April 2021 (UTC) p.s. did Martin Short really sing in that??

Two Nocturns from Mūza Rubackytė:​ VL183 and Vl178. Magical stuff. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Labai gražu. And I haven't seen those dreamy sailboats before.
I've always been partial to "In the Forest." – Sca (talk) 19:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, a lovely piece. Sorry, but my Lithuanian is a bit rusty. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:10, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Wossamotta U? Twelve nominative declensions and 10 cases too much for a Welch speaker? – Sca (talk) 15:23, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Evidently. Welch?? I still find it hard to get my tongue round all of it. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:43, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

The Bourgeois Blues

Heya. The Bourgeois Blues is a magnet for people to add trivia related to "X artist covered the song". It seems that the Ry Cooder version was added to the lead by a drive-by IP. I have been trying for the past few years to trim the trivia but I missed this one. --In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 15:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

I see. Perhaps a better (secondary) source could be found that would establish notability of the Cooder version. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

The Telegraph / The Daily Telegraph

Hi there, just a quick note according the wiki article and the online version its self the publication seems to simply be called The Telegraph when in reference to its online version. The Daily Telegraph seems to be its in-print name. The "London" bit is just to disambiguate it from the other publications called The Telegraph (not too fussed just wanted to note/explain). Thanks for helping update/maintain the article regardless.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 22:13, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I get confused over website=/ work=/ publisher=, and the format appropriate for each. I had never seen "[[The Telegraph (London)|The Telegraph]]" used before. I assume all of the news sources at that article are to web articles, so I guess we need to be consistent across all. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

p.s. that DAB page suggest it should be Telegraph.co.uk (although why the upper case "T", I don't know). Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Per Template:Cite web Website and work I believe are identical and are aliases of each other. Publisher is company, organization or other legal entity that publishes the work being cited very often the owner. For example website=[[IGN]]|publisher=[[Ziff Davis]] Though often redundant when they have similiar names like: website=[[The New York Times]]|publisher=[[The New York Times Company]]. So is it okay if I change it back to The Telegraph for the website parameter as that is the name of the online website/work.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 15:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks for that. I guess in the internet age newspapers want to shed the "daily" straight-jacket. This is why the Daily Mail transforms into the "Mail Online". But the same old rubbish (only worse). Martinevans123 (talk) 15:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Great, no problem. Yeah that makes sense, I sadly do not get the reference though :/.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 18:11, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, I'd go with Telegraph.co.uk. But whatevs. lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:16, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Farewell him big fella belong Mrs Queen

Farewell big fella

Almost the full century. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Wow today I learned.  Spy-cicle💥  ^Talk? 18:12, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

If anyone deserves to attend the funeral, it might be these guys. But I'm pretty sure 30 members of family could easily be found. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:19, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Of course, we've got our own "god-like spiritual figure" to worship, haven't we. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:47, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Indeed. "It Is 'He'" – Jai Sri Jimbo/Philipo. JG66 (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah yes, josticks and kaftans all round. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:18, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay, okay, he did inspire that Veririchi-Lotsamoney-Yogi-Bear nonsense ... Some decent music too, though. JG66 (talk) 17:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

And some great jet aircraft engines. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh, don't start on that jet aircraft business (doo-oo-oo-oo-oo, etc) – it's clearly a De Havilland balsa-wood model! JG66 (talk) 17:59, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Well I'm off to Spain! (.... don't shoot me I'm only the article editor). Martinevans123 (talk) 18:15, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

No, not that Fernando. Anyway, I'm sorry to hear about the musty incense in your eyes. Me, I've been to Heathrow, I've been to Gatwick (I've travelled this wide world all over, over, over) ... and it's definitely a De Havilland. JG66 (talk) 18:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Am hoping it will all be gone with the wind: [9] Martinevans123 (talk) 18:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Prince Philip devotees on Vanuatu hold mourning ceremony in his honour nagualdesign 22:23, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Ooh. A bit of a scoop there for The Daily Torygraph? Or maybe the poor guys on Tanna are just overrun at the moment. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:37, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Neither sighing but life everlasting: Kontakion - Sir Walter Parratt (1841–1924). Martinevans123 (talk) 20:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for helping with his music. I try to stick to an article a day, but today Jubilate Deo (Britten), William Lovelady and Psalm 104, because he commissioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you too for those. Yes William Lovelady was really most intriguing. For me the Parratt was unsurpassed and the most moving part of the entire service. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

YT of Lovelady, Jubilate --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it was captioned "Jubilate in C". Also the BBC's Order of Service doesn't give the hymn name "Eternal Father, Strong to Save" but just the tune name Melita. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

2021 Grand National

Hi Martin, I have the colours for 1, 3 & 4 finishers yesterday (see my sandbox)- the 2nd place was owned by a new syndicate "Racehorse Club" with crazy colours [10] I don't see on commons, do you know anyone smart enough to make these kind of things. Thanks for updating (and defending the posting of) this article JW 1961 ^Talk 12:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi User:Joseywales1961, any relation to Clint?? I wish I did know someone. After seeing that there are a total of 11,179 media images listed at Commons Cat:Racing silks, I decided I didn't know how to search them efficiently or create any new ones if required. I guess our best bet would be to locate the editor(s) who created/ added the same at 2019 Grand National. As for the ITN nom, yes I know it's best to have a "prose description" (which is essential a summary of the entire radio/TV commentary) but the essential bits are which horses and jockeys ran and which horses and jockeys won? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

No relation, ha (just one of my favourite films). I went through the cat on commons so I'll try and contact some from previous years (or maybe a file uploader in that cat) Thanks JW 1961 ^Talk 13:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

April corner

wild garlic

Yesterday's Main page was beautiful. Can you tell me something about the setting of Psalm 115 mentioned here, #24, and the Mozart connection? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:43, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it did look nice. Especially the Red-billed streamertail. But whatever can I tell you? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:54, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't know ;) The composer set Psalm 115? CXV? In Welsh? What has Mozart to do with it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:07, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Yesterday, I liked the Schlosspark best, and the role model, by playing one role. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, Non nobis says "There are surviving copies of the Non nobis Domine canon in the hands of both Mozart and Beethoven." No WAM mentioned at John Owen (Owain Alaw). But beyond that, I have no idea! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:24, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

We don't look for the canon but a Psalm setting in Welsh, and I can't do that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, here are the words. But as for a Mozartian musical setting, I have no idea. Meanwhile, here's a nice English one (1973, Guildford Cathedral Choir, directed by Barry Rose). Martinevans123 (talk) 20:24, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Quite the treasure: [11] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I now opened the other book (IMSLP). The piece in question is on p. 140, which is p. 144 of the pdf, and it's music in B-flat major labeled Mozart, but I don't know the piece. I guess he translated some psalm words to Welsh to match the music. Doesn't look like 18 verses to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh well done, Gerda! Wherever did "Mozart" come from? I wonder if there is a Mozart scholar here who might know. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:36, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I think Owen just took a Mozart piece and put the words to it. - for you with thanks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah, thank you for Olena Tokar. I will enjoy something nice from there. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

On this day in 1742, He was despised was performed for the first time, and when I wrote it in 2012, I didn't only think of Jesus. Andreas Scholl sang that for us, - you are invited to a Baroque stroll. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me. Ah yes, Brühl! A fine actor. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Eric Corbett helped with the singer, DYK? Over which he contemplated to use his real name. Why do we despise such exquisite editors? Hillbilly, Poeticbent, PumpkinSky, now RexxS ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Gosh, a polite conversation. Yes, he was right, it was foolish. I'm sure people must have written essays about the social psychology of wiki usernames(?) A nice article though. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Further down same page, and by then Eric, he told me "chin up", and Hillbilly gave me a poem and a tree, and I felt much less despised. listen perhaps? - I found the recording by Scholl also, but it's awfully soft. DYK that I took the lead image and some of the others? Once - shortly before the Messiah performance - I chatted with his wife during intermission of a concert standing in line for the loo ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Verily, verily, I say unto you. We are none of us worthy to touch even the hem of Gerda's flowing choral robes, even as she passes by. lol. But thank you for Scholl with Les Arts Florissants.... unspeakably wonderful. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Now should I take that to my blushing corner? Or just reply with the Weizenkorn? My first (of two) concert singing with Scholl (and then his sister also) was the Matthew Passion, when I stood almost next to him. Unforgettable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Very probably. [12]. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for taking care early - from 2013 - of an article about music significant in my life, Bach's motet Jesu, mein Freude! From the start to the Main page in 15 years ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me! Collegium Vocale Gent with Philippe Herreweghe from 2011: [13]. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

more memories on the Main page today, Psalm 115 thinking of Yoninah, Christa Ludwig and Milva, - voices that made the Earth a better place. Sad that the psalm hook didn't appear on Earth Day as planned, but better pictured and late than going unnoticed ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

A great Psalm. And talking of profound passages, I guess PTG and David Conner have cornered the market in "Consider the rainbow, and bless the One who made it" for a while. But of course, it's not Ecclesiastes (which only goes up to Chapter 12, not 43). It's Ecclesiasticus, which doesn't even appear in my RSV! Am surprised this unconventional choice drew such little comment. Or indeed any. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

today: Charmes recorded ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Today was another concert live but without audience - Yeats Fergus in the end. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

День Космонавтики

"I am a rocket, the power of a system.."

Oi!! Happy Yuri's Night !! [14] Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

«Это Москва говорит, все радиопередатчики в СССР работают. мы получили новости от государственного информационного агентства ТАСС о первом в мире полете человека в космос.»

Glad you're back, v 2.o

Because Argumentum ad baculum just cracked me up and I truly needed the laugh this morning. JSFarman (talk) 18:14, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Am very pleased to hear that. thank you so much. I must admit that I originally misread it as Argumentum ad bacterium. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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• "Everybody's got a thing, B-bot. But some don't know how to handle it." Don't you worry B-bot 'bout a thing. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Indo sub

Perhaps it was floundering around before it foundered? – Sca (talk) 13:59, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Finding "parts of the torpedo tube straightener, cover for coolant pipings..", and its disappearance just after a live torpedo firing, does not sound too good. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

That's the way things go with a 40-year-old Unterseeboot, I guess. They probably got a deal on it. – Sca (talk) 15:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Or should it be "found sunken" – you be the judge. – Sca (talk) 22:29, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, they located it. Not sure it's really been "found", as such: [15] Martinevans123 (talk) 22:50, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Have you seen the video, shot on board weeks before the loss? – Sca (talk) 18:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

I had not seen that. That's very poignant indeed. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:28, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

They were just guys, like guys everywhere. – Sca (talk) 01:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Indeed. But unfortunate there were 53 guys, not just the designed-for 34. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:44, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Yacht rock as a genre

Mr. Evans, I'm puzzled by your behavior. Is it possible for you to explain it? What do you hope to accomplish by using one of Wikipedia's more fascistic tactics, hiding the interaction between two people because you dislike it? You have this pretty picture of an angel on your Talk page and some sweet nothings about peace. Are you hoping the lion and lamb will lie down together in this world? I see little evidence of that, Father Evans, in this world, in this life, the one we interact with using our five senses.. If you had taken the time and effort to analyze the situation, rather than lazily dismissing it as "bickering" and a pox on both your houses, you would know whom to point your judgemental finger at. Dan is a net minus, not a net plus, to Wikipedia, and he has been that far way for a very long time. In your attempt to place some kind of arbitrary blame on both of us, you have ignored Dan's form of communication, which includes:

• "Forgiveness and compassion don't seem to be too American either"
• "Dude, go out and get laid"
• "Or find a real job where you can actually make a difference. It's not the end of the world, or your world (i.e. America)"
• "I don't care. No one cares. No one cares about what you think because you're belittling anyone who disagrees with your point of view"
• "All your doing with comments like that one are creeping me out and embarrassing yourself"
• "Those are false equivalencies, and a puritanical outlook"
• "It's not a personal attack. And your response is still puritanical. Your point is irrelevant"
• "It is more of an observation than an insult or a compliment, unlike your reasoning, which insults my intelligence"
• "Another observation: being patronizing, or projecting your insecurities about content discussion onto me, will not expedite your desired change. Your comments are way too long, complicated
• You're the only one giving speeches and personal essays"
• "It's too late to make nice; he has completely turned me off with his incessant, myopic bloviating, anal rigidity and condescending, hypocritical remarks from the get-go, all of which I suspect are products of his obsession with removing a superficial project banner (that seems incredibly precious to him) and have blinded him from comprehending the basics of guidelines and policy-based arguments; one simply should not argue in the manner he has; it is unreadable and off-putting. I'm glad I'm not alone anymore to be driven crazy by his behavior, but I have no more patience for him on this matter."

If you really wanted to help, you would take the initiative and get this creature removed from Wikipedia.
Vmavanti (talk) 11:10, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Mr Vanti. I make no pretence at divinity. I thought, and continue to think, that the "exchange" at Talk:Aja (album) has no place at a Wikipedia article Talk page. Very sorry if you feel hurt in some way. I honestly think your "discussion" there and/or your grievances against another editor, need to be taken to a different venue. Rest assured I won't be editing that thread again. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:17, 26 April 2021 (UTC) p.s. but thanks for pointing out I'm lazy.

I like to fancy myself a god of sorts, and solemnly declare, anything that rocketh upon the land shall indeed rock on a yacht. But so too shall ye lose the verily low end to the heavens, rocking open-air on any deck, so lo, no! Now is not the time to play outside. Now excuse me. I must judge this creature you speak of, accordingly, per mine own great whims and mysteriously lazy pace. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:36, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Why are you butting in? You think you're funny, but you're not.
Vmavanti (talk) 12:51, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Excuse me. Are you retrospectively butting in before me? Or is it after? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for those kind words of comfort, Your Great Infallibleness. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:39, 26 April 2021 (UTC) p.s. you think you're funny, yes and you always stay the distance.

"Very sorry if you feel hurt" is dismissive rather than analytical. It isn't about my feelings or anyone else's. I don't care if you contribute to the thread. It isn't the discussion that is a problem. It's Dan's behavior. You could make a difference—if you wanted to. I have seen no comments, other than my inchoate analysis, about why it's acceptable to use this offensive, false term "yacht rock" all across Wikipedia. The point of Wikipedia is to provide facts, not to put down the subjects of articles. People who use this term think they are being cute, but it's dumb. The same kind of thing in other contexts stirs paroxysms of fake moral outrage and selective indignation. Nope, not here. If it's the old red herring about protocol and location ("How dare you to talk to me on my Talk page!"), then where should this subject be addressed?
Vmavanti (talk) 12:51, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Oi, Inedible... take that, limey yacht lover

I absolve that beautiful creature you hated, not even kidding. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:54, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Seems you're not a huge fan of yachting, then. Do you see yourself as "the lamb" or "the lion" in this particular exchange? Thanks. "Father" Evans 123 (talk) 12:56, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

British periphrasis and circumlocution are my favorite forms of stupidity, avoidance, and cowardice.
Vmavanti (talk) 13:05, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps we can agree that The Sound of Music wasn't yacht rock. Am tending towards lion, but happy to take a second opinion. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

If I had a yacht, this would be heard loud and clear. ---Sluzzelin talk 21:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

(just in case) ... I mean, yeah, John Coltrane, but goodness, McCoy Tyner. Full blast on my yacht! ---Sluzzelin talk 23:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't know about the ranty-vanti stuff, Martin, but I have to take issue with your comment "I make no pretence at divinity". I mean: It is He! – Jai Sri Martin!! (or Martini perhaps, yacht rocking and all). JG66 (talk) 13:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

As you know, I'm always up for a "vicars and tarts". You can get some yacht rock at its finest: [16] --"Le Bon Father" 123 (talk) 13:46, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, I know you are, Father Bon-Mots, I know – just as I gather the Lord loves the one that loves the yacht!

Out of interest, is that Wings album London Town yacht rock? It was partly recorded on a yacht, by a rock band, and waterways appear in the cover art. Problem is, the album's often described as soft rock ... so: "Soft yacht rock"? – perhaps the genre's developed and widened in scope? This just seemed the place to raise the point, here at YR Central, that's all. I don't know, I don't know ... JG66 (talk) 14:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Macca on a barge? Sounds a bit dingy to me. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:22, 26 April 2021 (UTC) p.s. this yacht stuff is all a bit much, isn't it...

At least there's a cafe on the left bank, apparently. It's a shame that InedibleHulk set sail with HMS Aja. a) I thought they were funny too; b) they might've been able to shed some light on this confounded yachtie rock thing. Perhaps I'm just wearing the wrong shoes. JG66 (talk) 15:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't think so! But in any case, daahrling, you'd need a scarf that was apricot? Simon Carly 123 (talk) 15:27, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking about going a-yachtin' – and indeed, a-yacht-rockin' – in this sort of get-up ... no? See, I'll never get the hang of this genre. JG66 (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

"Come on baby, let me take you." Yacht-a-billy? Yacht Dance, anyone?? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC) ... or maybe Doo-Yacht-Wop?

now, imagine it without a yacht. But you know, we were happy in those days ... The overwhelming emotion of hearing Toto's "Africa" remixed to sound like it's playing in an empty mall ---Sluzzelin talk 20:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

"We never had a cup. We used to drink out of a rolled up newspaper." A great mix there - Brian would be thrilled. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm really offended that this guy keeps calling me Dan. That wasn't even my real name. isento (talk) 15:19, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

You mean it is now? You poor thing, although I am a bit surprised you've not been site-banned yet. You two playmates really oughta bury the hatchet? Martinevans123 (talk) 15:35, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Worse has happened in the world. isento (talk) 16:48, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

да ты не шутишь! Pop Evanski 123 (talk) 17:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Wow @ all those quotes at the top 😂 ... I must not be a "net-minus". Might be why I haven't been site-banned. At least one of the reasons ... isento (talk) 04:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

JG66, I'll try to be clear. First, I'm not "them", just one man/child/deity. Second, I can't define yacht rock precisely, but it's somewhere between wuss rock (as heard in department stores) and butt rock (formerly headlining cruise ships). Third, I didn't so much set sail as fall asleep; if you've heard "Sail Away" from Fraggle Rock, though, you know moon shoes, deck shoes and fuzzy bunny slippers fit about the same. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:24, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

And before anyone files a hate speech complaint, I love quite a bit of butt rock and wuss rock! It's the fusion hits I deem "weak-ass noise". Some streams were never meant to cross over. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:29, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Full steam ahead !! Martinevans123 (talk) 07:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Not here, I see "Video unavailable" (and "Captain of Yo"). InedibleHulk (talk) 08:10, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah, ok then.... Full steam ahead !! (I'm sure you'll be able to find your own copyvio version on YachT-watch). Was never a hit over on your side, I think. But great "foghorn, ship's bell and Morse code" and "psychedelic treatments including electric sitar, backwards piano, filtered vocals and phasing"! Martinevans123 (talk) 08:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I found the band on Spotify. Under 3,000 monthly listeners, nice! Can't find that song, but "I Can Hear The Rain" and "I Can Tell" this ain't rock at all, it's a ballroom blitz. Catchy, this next one, she kissed him on Thursday. Don't strike your link, though, other limeys can probably watch it! InedibleHulk (talk) 09:08, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey, they stole "Be My Baby", that's Eddie Money's job! InedibleHulk (talk) 09:33, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

YT here in UK is currently showing four different uploads of the original by Reparata and the Delrons. The one I posted looked copyright compliant. But then we don't spend every other day suing the pants off each other? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:50, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I haven't tried my Tube yet, could have a copy or two. If your link was from the legit owners, it could be a licensing deal. They like to regionalize us on Earth, for some reason. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:10, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

It's just uploaded under "Reparata and the Delrons - Topic", but clearly states "Provided to YouTube by Sony Music CG". I'm currently having a discussion about this with Ojorojo at Talk:Wang Dang Doodle, if you are interested. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

That makes sense; Sony Music is big over here, but there's simply no such thing as Sony Music CG. Google indicates it's very Euro, if anything. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, that's interesting. Regardless of copyright, adding YT links that just don't work in some countries will be a bit of a waste of time and just a source of frustration. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Sadly, yes, for some niche songs. Go global or go home! You could add them with a fair warning for some readers, though, parenthetical or whatnot (your Wang Dang Doodle is showing from here). InedibleHulk (talk) 12:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Put that wang dang doodle away right now, and zip up your pants! --Tryptofish (talk) 15:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

"I wangle when I doodle, 'cos my dangle is a poodle". Clevor Trever 123 (talk) 16:23, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Else have a central location where proposed YT links could be vetted both for copyvio and global access? Of course some folks don't really want a pristine encyclopaedia sullied with "social meejah". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:25, 27 April 2021 (UTC) ... as long as it's not My Ding-a-Ling that's showing, I don't care.

Any right granted from plain old UMG or BMG is probably good everywhere we're "sold", but our own copyright rules can be confusing, even then. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:33, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I guess. Of course the "other" problem is, just like BIG PHARMA, YT is seen by many as BIG MUSO. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

We at BIG ED should warmly welcome other sectors' worldwide monopolies, as long as we're not driving traffic to stuffy academic videos or free trials for pills said to treat or prevent "brain fag". InedibleHulk (talk) 05:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

We at BIG FAG warmly welcome other sectors' worldwide drug monopolies, as long as they're not trying to make an encyclopaedia SO DULL that everyone has a BIG SLEEP. --"Pile M. High" 123 (talk) 06:46, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

John Keats

I trust you, Martin! Go ahead and write it as you feel it's best. Brian Bmcln1 (talk) 11:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad someone does. lol. No worries. I'll try and have a go at summarising that Reception stuff. It's not a big deal really. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:34, 26 April 2021 (UTC) p.s. alas, I'm always reminded of the "Famous First Draft" of "Ode to a Nightingale" in Tits 'n Bums: A Weekly Look at Church Architecture!

Talk

Thanks much for your pointed comments.
What Arschlöcher some people are. – Sca (talk) 17:27, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Lol. And I thought they were pointless comments. How dare you come here, to this sacred Talk page, with your collegial waste of editors' time!! --Song Dong Ding Dong123 (talk) 17:40, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm amazed at how that turned out. A soft answer turneth away wrath? – Sca (talk) 13:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes indeed. That was a real breath of fresh air. Very good of him. If only more editors could be like that, the encyclopaedia would be much happier place. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC) [17]

Hey, I've been meaning to ask: Have you climbed Yr Wyddfa lately? – Sca (talk) 12:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

It's been a few years! But I'm sure that story will not have escaped the attention of User:Hogyn Lleol. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:53, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

(You're correct there!) Hogyn Lleol (talk) 18:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

And on that subject, Everest isn't known by its Tibetan name, Chomolungma, meaning goddess mother of the world. Its name comes from Colonel Sir George Everest, a surveyor-general of India He was born in Crickhowell.
Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Maybe it will be Denali-ized? – Sca (talk) 14:46, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

I can safely say I've managed to scale the main bar of Bear Hotel, Crickhowell without oxygen or crampons. (But ok, yes, I did need three sherpas to bring me down). Martinevans123 (talk) 14:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

In any case, I think it's silly naming a mountain after a celebrity photographer. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:30, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Or a musician whose only instrument is a whistle. – Sca (talk) 12:52, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. But up there it can give you a legal advantage? Martinevans123 (talk)

UK Singles Chart

Hi Which page are you talking about? Benriggers (talk)

Um, your last one was here, but today you've made abut 100 other similar ones? Also UK Albums Chart? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm lost for words... can you help?

Hi Martin, I hope that you're well - it's been a while since I've been in touch. Any idea about how to respond here - other than by promising to replace every single personal pronoun used in the Wikipedia project prior to, say, 2018? Talk:Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper#Gender_identity_of_the_people_in_the_photo Best wishes, Jez JezGrove (talk) 20:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jez, great to hear from you. Also hope all's well with you. I would have thought that, in 1932, men were allowed to express their true gender identity... by becoming construction workers on the 30 Rockefeller Plaza skyscraper. But who knows. I also think it's unlikely there'll ever be "sources that prove how they gender identified". Even if there were, I'm not sure how that might be relevant to their job as ironworkers. We could probably assume Gusti Popovič was a real post-card writing married man (he was after all, a lumberjack). But who knows about Joseph Eckner, Joe Curtis, Natxo Moneta, or cigar-smoking Matty O'Shaughnessy... or the six others who's names we don't seem to even know. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Timely?

Masters of War (1963) [18] [19]

Live: [20] [21]

– Sca (talk) 12:14, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Sca. That May 1998 San Jose clip quite excellent. And after 35 years, not quite so freewheeling. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:23, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

May corner

Today: Thomas Fritsch, the German character voice of Diego in Ice Age, + unrelated music for fun --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:06, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

See my talk today, - it's rare that a person is pictured when a dream comes true, and that the picture is shown on the Main page on a meaningful day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Do not change Latin to English

Do not change the Latin word mansio to the English word mansion. They have different meanings and link to different articles. 173.18.56.34 (talk) 04:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, IP 173. You're quite right. Only "likely" to be the source of the English word mansion, it seems. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

June thanks

Thank you for improving articles in June, with some impressions of places, flowers and music for you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda. Some lovely images. I found this excerpt from the Vivaldi No.6 Bb, with Silva Manfrè at the organ of the Piaristenkirche St. Thekla in Vienna (2010): [22] There's a beautifully light and airy "L’Ange gardien" by César Franck, from just last Christmastide, at her Facebook site which I think you might enjoy: [23]. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, - friend cellist (and subject of my first article) and friend organist picked the same first movement (and the second), - new to me. Will add YT to sonatas article which was sadly undeveloped. Sad job: update article of another soprano who died (possibly I heard her but don't remember), then write about orchestra of conductor who died (sure I went to concerts with him). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

sorry, don't find the guardian angel --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

A Guardian Angel?? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:53, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

that's great, thank you, but I meant "L’Ange gardien" mentioned above --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah. It's really nice. Susanne Ebenbauer: Soprano; Pia Ernstbrunner, Alto. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:14, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

I believe you, but can't find it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Ha. How very odd. Can you see her Facebook page here? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:34, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

I can se this facebook page and the other, but no "ange". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

She posted it on 16 December 2020.You can search for "Franck" on that page. It's also in her "Latest videos" list. 😃 Martinevans123 (talk) 10:56, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

finally ;) - thanks for your patience, and beautiful --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:28, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

added: missing SlimVirgin, and RMF festival opening --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

"Come on you Krauts!!"^[FBDB] (only joking....) Tony Crows 123 (talk) 16:53, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

A sterling performance. Poor Germany got truly caned. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

McAfee

Couldn't you have worked vainglorious in there somewhere? But perhaps verisimilitude would be the real challenge in his case. – Sca (talk) 19:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I had toyed with "volatile and vexatious valetudinarian self-vanquishing veteran". But thought it was a bit too verbose. Not to say frightfully vulgar.Martinevans123 (talk) 20:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Matt Hancock

"It's red hot, mate. I hate to think of this sort of encyclopaedia getting in the wrong hands. As soon as I've finished this, I shall recommend they ban it." [1]

Please keep your opinions to yourself when editing articles. The policy on biographies of living people applies to edit summaries as much as it applies anywhere else across Wikipedia. Your co-operation in this matter will be appreciated. Mjroots (talk) 13:02, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm very sorry that you feel the need to blank an edit summary and make such a blunt request here. I don't make a habit of such political comments. I'm not sure you'd be able to find another in my 177,265 edits. My opinion of Hancock has dropped far lower than I even thought possible. Yes, I think he's a hypocrite. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:36, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I rarely find myself agreeing with Boris-Not-Good-Enuf, but "totally fucking hopeless" doesn't seem quite so outrageous, IMHO.

Martin, you were reported an WP:AN. Whatever we feel about certain people (don't get me started on the Milk Snatcher)), if they are living or recently deceased then BLP applies and we need to keep our emotions in check. As you are an experienced editor generally in good standing, I considered the above reminder would be sufficient without then need to take it any further. FWIW, I think that Hancock should resign, and I hope he will be gone by the end of June. Mjroots (talk) 15:13, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

"Mj", I applaud your diligence in an administrative capacity. Looking forward to my notice of the AN posting ("lol"). I do hope you won't think I'm procrastinating, but unlike all other edits, of course, edit summaries can't be adjusted later, only rev-del'ed, and then only by an Admin? Ah right, "generally in good standing"; it may be time I sat down. You think you need to "take it any further"? I suspect none of this band of incompetent half-wits will be gone for years yet (Government MP's I mean, not Wikipedia Admins). Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a prior engagement in Amsterdam. Kind regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:49, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Breaking! Hancock resigns. Mjroots (talk) 17:15, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Either way..... I fear it's Humiliation

Gosh. So, one poor result. One consolation. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

The Room Next Door - Matt Hancock Farewell Special nagualdesign 18:38, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

My word. That is frightfully amusing. Did someone say glove puppet? "Verily, verily, Dominic, thy Cummings Cup runneth over." Martinevans123 (talk) 19:28, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

FTR, I didn't notice because I didn't think action against the editor was necessary (if I did I would've tried ANI); people make occasional off-hand comments. I just felt that the summary needed to be revdelled. Usually I'd request offwiki but IRC is usually a ghost-town at that time. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:46, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah cheers, Crasty. It seems my slagging off has brought all the boys to the yard. I love wrestling as much as the next man and I might well have done just the same as you in your shoes. Thanks to Speedy Rootzales over there, my opinion of Hancock "didn't reflect particularly well" on Wikipedia only for 2 hours and 11 minutes. A quick null edit would have knocked it off the top of page history immediately, of course. As that Andrew Neil of GB News said, "In the future, everyone will be a hopeless Tory politician for 30 minutes." Martinevans123 (talk) 19:21, 26 June 2021 (UTC) p.s. did someone mention a ghost town??

Lol here.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 22:02, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

So, what's all this about someone putting his han on his cock? --Tryptofish (talk) 19:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Would probably be seen as progress. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:44, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Can he play the oboe with his elbow? Or is that a boo-boo? --Tryptofish (talk) 19:47, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, he's not coming out to play.... He's been a very naughty boy Martinevans123 (talk) 19:50, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

p.s. and talking of elbows.

p.p.s. but hey, thanks Rootsy. Obviously time for me to reconsider your very kind RFA suggestion: [24] Martinevans123 (talk) 18:52, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

3-3 (a.e.t), 4-5!!

Le Moooooo!!

It's a bit like England going out to Scotland. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Filtering usernames

I've asked about this before when I've tried to avoid seeing the anti-Daily Mail crusaders who just leave a trail of shite behind them. There are some tweaks you can do to your monobook (fnar fnar) but nothing inherent in the Wikipedia interface. With the "tagging" user doing around 20 pages per minute, and with 10,000 pages on my watchlist, I've fallen foul of being overwhelmed by their edits.... Good luck finding that filter, if you work it out, let me know. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:03, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Well, you know what they say in Bradford... "where there's shite, there's a long line of angry editors with shovels". Or something like that. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I do. That meatbot behaviour will have to stop. And to think some people thought that user should be an admin? The very thought of it....! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:33, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Ye gods. The very thought of me being an Admin?? That's enough to give our poor Jimbo the Heebie-jeebies: [25] Martinevans123 (talk) 18:42, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Jimbo's too stressed working out why some "bros" have fucked Wikipedia for approximately half the planet. I'm sure he could use your insight. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:45, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Nah, just ya holdee on there a dog-gone minute, pardner. Just ya keep ur thievin' li'l cotton-picken hands offa this here Talkpage!! Solid white 123 (talk) 19:00, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, go careful there. Explaining "cotton-picking" to a seven-year-old (non) American child. Can you imagine?? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:06, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

You tell 'em Ramblin' Billy. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:25, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

I am definitely black enough for you Martin. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:26, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah bless! You'll always be my favourite Wiki role model, Rambler. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:33, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Princess of Wales

Lardy? – Sca (talk) 12:34, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Rather draws unfortunate comparison with the "Princess of Pork" (who shall remain nameless, of course), doesn't it. I think it's to do with the Germans indulging in too many umlauts? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:43, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Grandma used to make umlauts with cheese and sauerkraut, seasoned with caraway and dill, that just couldn't be beat – unless you had a shtick, that is. – Sca (talk) 18:53, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

I hear that Princess Michael of Kent "does a mean Wiener schnitzel" and has "an industrial appetite" (located in the Ruhr, perhaps?) But she eats no puddings; so no Black Forest Birthday Gateaux for her. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:38, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't know much about British deserts, but I suspect some of them eat spotted dick. Or is that something they caught from messing around? --Tryptofish (talk) 20:25, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Errrmm, you're probably thinking of something that happens after dinner at many of Britain's finest public schools.

Also, continuing from some of above, one can see what spotted dick looks like at our page on Chancroid. (I deliberately did not blue-link that, because it is not a link for polite society, nor for the faint of heart.) --Tryptofish (talk) 20:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Eeeeewww. Fortunately (for all of us) I think it was only Hancock's hand that was spotted. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Truth be told, ever since I heard of spotted dick, I can't get it out of my mouth. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:39, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Ah well, "One swallow does not a Summer Pudding make." Allegedly. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:49, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Dick Who?.

Actually, caraway, dill – and black pepper – are the flavoring agents I use in making my own Akvavit, using a good grade of Polish rye vodka. Helps beat the heat (or the cold). — Sca (talk) 22:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Archive 15

Anyone got any ideas as to why Archive 15 for 2021 won't appear in the Archive box?? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:21, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

I think it's because the archive page 15 does not yet exist. When I search for it, it shows as a red link. I guess you can either: (1) create the page manually (leaving it blank and waiting for the bot to fill it in, (2) just wait for the bot to create the page, or (3) do whatever makes the bot run now. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:07, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Cheers Trypto. But I am botless lol. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:08, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

No worries, some people think that I am brainless. But I just created the archive manually, and it now displays above! But all the archive page says is "test", so you'll have to change that to an actual archive. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks, Trypto! Feel free to do all my archiving from now on!! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:23, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome, of course, but be careful. I might archive you! --Tryptofish (talk) 22:37, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm sure you're the very soul of discretion. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:31, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I try to have a lot of sole. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:38, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Church of St Deinst, Llangarron

Did you have to choose a church with quite so many listed memorials! KJP1 (talk) 13:48, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Hah! Wow, you've been busy!! I had no idea. Have visited only once. And then it was locked! I see from this 1834 source that the village was also spelled in 1821 as Llangarran? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:53, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

1–2!!

Can we expect a Go_AL or maybe a few??

Note: UKR squad will be playing in their new COVID secure strip, without the map.

Great Expectations!!

Oh, Schick. The benefit of ITV is Dry Clive and his pal Ally, "Brulliant!!" Martinevans123 (talk) 17:58, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

England 1-0 up, Harry Kane scores!--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:20, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Sweet! Martinevans123 (talk) 19:53, 3 July 2021 (UTC) hey, just a minute.... Ukraine have a player called Matt Bianco??: [26]

3-0! Next opponent will be Denmark in the semis.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:17, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

4-0! Yes, and at Wembley again! Seems England are in safe hands. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:03, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

A musical message...

... for your Fourth-coming celebration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyBltotNDB8

– Sca (talk) 23:07, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Or maybe you'd prefer this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w2gyWE0M0k

– Sca (talk) 23:55, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

... well, I might prefer it. But all I see is "Video unavailable: This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." lol Martinevans123 (talk) 15:47, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

It's the song titled "Best One Around," from the '68 musical Hair, that includes the lyrics "crazy for the red, white and blue." – Sca (talk) 18:44, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Or maybe this one (... take a trip!) Martinevans123 (talk) 08:07, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

July corner

July

June continued ... last year's flowers match the image on the user page nicely, see? - DYK that her last reply to me was in a thread Green for hope? - The DYK set in honour of Yoninah appeared yesterday, including Psalm 85, with the kiss of justice and peace - we wrote that together.

Fourth of July: Brian's birthday, remembered in gratitude for his unfailing inspiration and support - remember the Chapel - the missed - the music? - Can I interest you in a user's first FAC, Carillon? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

I'll try and take a look. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Music happens. On the Main page now: "my" school. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Good stuff! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

More music: 2 songs, the morning song - about rising from being down, in more than one sense - is a GA, - there should be more given my initials, but I also want to care for articles of those who recently died (now Esther Béjarano), and psalms in memory of Yoninah, - more missing than there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Did you know that Vivaldi composed cello sonatas? I didn't until I took the pic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeats

Hi Martin. I presume you have a source that explicitly states that WB wasn’t Indian.[27]. Ceoil (talk) 10:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Errrrm.... now you've got me a bit worried. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:19, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

The same ones again?

BBC: Nigeria kidnap: Gunmen seize 140 schoolchildren

– How many schoolgirls can there be in Nigeria? — Sca (talk) 18:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Quite a lot, I imagine. This report, from 2014, said "Over 5.5 million girls are out-of-school (UNESCO, 2014)"! Martinevans123 (talk) 09:41, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Jan Broberg Felt was kidnapped twice in deepest, darkest Idaho. First by a relatively young man. Then, two years later, by the same older man. InedibleHulk (talk) 11:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but most of those Nigerian girls don't get their own book and TV documentary. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:15, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Not their fault, just where the hell is CBS expected to find 140 black actresses? InedibleHulk (talk) 11:46, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

errrmm... well, they could try Chibok I guess? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC) [28]

There's whitebread ratings potential in Ali: The Ali Story, but creative has nothing for the other 275, send them home. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Ah, yes. For a moment there I thought it was this Ali Story, about the bad old days in the 1970s "lol". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:20, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

"Girlfriend Is Better" song length

The LP/early CD version on Speaking in Tongues shows 4:22. Is 4:22 not the length to use since Speaking in Tongues came out before Stop Making Sense? 73.167.238.120 (talk) 22:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I thought that too. But then I read: "The song's single version was a live version from the soundtrack of their 1984 concert film Stop Making Sense, named for a lyric from the song." Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:02, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

p.s. curiously, watching the clip from the film uploaded to YouTube by "Lucaas", I see it lasts 5:11. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

There is crowd noise in the clip, which adds to the length of the video. Thank you for clarifying about the single! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 09:24, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

No worries. Stop Making Sense is a great film. Electrifying. I went to see it three times (in a real cinema, lol). Martinevans123 (talk) 09:37, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

I agree, Stop Making Sense is unbelievable! 73.167.238.120 (talk) 23:01, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Cum on you Da-aanesDa-aaanze!!

"England Expects" .... (kiss me hardy, etc.)!!

... or another "Danish Golden Age"? (watch out Harry!!)

Inappropriate spelling? Or how about "Cum On Feel the Noize"?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:09, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Apologies, now corrected. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

... so, the lads prevailed, even though Sterling slightly lost his footing?? Nice finish, Harry. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:07, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

...but an interesting choice of a replacement for Raheem on Sunday.

Please, please tell me you didn't really say "cum on"! (Although I'll admit to being a bit of a sea squirt myself.) --Tryptofish (talk) 22:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

As I'm sure you know, we in the UK are not allowed to shout or sing until 19 July. So I had to say it very, very quietly. -- Barnard Castle United 123 (talk) 07:29, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

If you ever heard me attempt to sing, you would conclude that I should never be allowed to do so. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

New statue

Lol.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:36, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

"... was kept secret until its unveiling as if it might be wildly provocative. Looking through the artist’s previous oeuvre, I noticed he has a taste for the nude and created a statue for the late Felix Dennis called Lord Rochester, His Whore and a Monkey. That raised the fascinating prospect of a naked Diana for everyone to get furious about." -- Jonathan Jones, The Guardian. "... a spiritless hunk of nonsense"? Don't worry! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:52, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

I hear the statue is next to a busy road.[29]--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:09, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

The lollypop also available in glittery sliver, I hear. But you know what they say... so Paul Francis Gadd is off the hook. Ian, great to see your editor credibility, as Wikipedia nonce expert, taking a nose-dive here. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:20, 8 July 2021 (UTC) [30]

I didn't realise Ian gave financial advice.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:24, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, and gives street art advice in Bristol. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:29, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

This can be yours for only £11.99! So many photos like this in the archive, but since nobody is allowed to see them on television nowadays, there is a tendency for young people to wonder what all the fuss is about with Savile.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:34, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

What a delightful vintage tableau! Yes, these young snowflake Millenials, or whatever they're called. When I were a lad... you were lucky to have a room. We used to live in corridors.. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:46, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Kevin De Bruyne

Yes, it's official: "Kevin is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel"
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Greetings. The passage you restored on this article blatantly violates WP:PEACOCK. It isn't necessary to claim he is widely regarded as anything, or that he is often described as anything. The first paragraph of the article already establishes that he is one of the better players by way of presenting pure fact. This is how articles are supposed to be written. Adding the peacock passage does nothing to improve the article, and detracts from the real facts of the player. It isn't necessary, it's redundant, and potentially misleading. I am removing it again. Please do not restore it without providing a reliable source that supports he is "widely" or "often described" as anything. Further, the way in which you attempted to add sources to the passage, by way of "[157]" for example, is not the way we add sources to an article. In particular, if you want to use a source that is already used in the article, you should read through Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Repeated_citations on how to do this. If you have questions about this, let me know. But, again, please don't add this WP:PEACOCK passage again. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 15:02, 8 July 2021 (UTC) Hello Hammersoft. I didn't "restore" anything you had removed. I added two different statements that are already in the body of the article? I actually agreed with your removal (as I explained at the Talk page). I added fully sourced material. The "facts" of De Bruyne's career are why he is "widely regarded as one of the best players in the world and he has often been described as a "complete" footballer." But the making of those statement are also facts in themselves. As far as I can see, all of those existing sources, which are given in the text, are WP:RS. I have no intention of edit warring, so there's really no need for you to request I don't restore. I am well aware of how to add sources properly, thanks: the "[157][158][159][160][161]" was a cut-and-paste error that I evidently did not have time to fix (and I thought that might have been obvious). This is a content discussion that is best discussed at Talk:Kevin De Bruyne. That's why I specifically opened a new thread and requested, in my edit summary, that we do that? Thanks so much. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:19, 8 July 2021 (UTC) I just don't see the point in adding it. The article is already gushing about his accomplishments (and well deserved). We don't need to add the peacock terms. Its redundant and meaningless in the context of so many other superlatives. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:18, 8 July 2021 (UTC) I see. Then we'll have to agree to disagree. You have your opinion. I have mine. If someone is considered to "the best" at something, I think he deserves to be described just like that. Compare with Ronnie O'Sullivan, for example, which open with ".. is an English professional snooker player who is widely recognised as one of the most accomplished and talented players in the history of the sport." That's in the very first sentence! I think it's a matter of choice, not not a matter of "we don't write articles like this" policy. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:31, 8 July 2021 (UTC) Then we disagree. There's a reason we have WP:PEACOCK to guide us. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC) Yes, it's "guidance", isn't it. As far as I can see, my addition was simply "imparting or plainly summarizing verifiable information." If it's a question of prominence, it could neatly be added at the end of the lead section. If it really is "peacockery", you'll also need to remove to from the main body of the article, together with those eight sources that support it. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:00, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Now copied over to Talk:Kevin De Bruyne. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:18, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

File:Aleksis Kivi statue.jpg listed for discussion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Aleksis Kivi statue.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. ✗plicit 13:03, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I see. Would it help if I had marked it as a "derivative work" like, for example, File:Sibelius monument.jpg? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Rocky Mountain Way.ogg

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B-bot-a-Lula, you're my baby. Thanks for that. It's not really an image, but never mind. It looks like that sneaky old Binky removed it from Rocky Mountain Way (song) here three days ago with the rationale "(removing non-free audio listening example per WP:NFCCP... no "contextual significance" has been supplied)". And I thought the file had all the necessary justification. It does seem to me to be "contextually significant" to an article about that song. Perhaps we ought to just add this 8 minute live version from Joe's VEVO? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:50, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

I have been removing a bunch of non-free audio files from articles, ones that don't have any description of the audio heard in the file. Such a description is needed per WP:NFCCP number 8. To make this file comply with the requirement, a description can be attached alerting the reader to any part of the listening experience, for instance lyrics, instrumentation, production techniques, etc. Specifically on this file, which doesn't have any talk box sounds, one might focus on the vocals that are equalized to be thin like a telephone call, or the slow pounding rhythm, or you could tell about the words "couldn't get much higher" based on the Rolling Stone piece. The Jake Brown book Behind the Boards II has something from Bill Szymczyk about how Walsh first came up with an instrumental "blues-shuffle" recorded at Criteria, then stripped down to drums alone at Caribou and rebuilt from there, adding lyrics to make the final version we all know. Walsh is described as having layered about "six or seven" guitars on the recording, playing through a small amp with one Shure SM57 microphone aimed at it. Szymczyk says the thick guitar sound is from Joe himself, not from studio trickery. See chapter 1 of Brown's book. There's a lot of stuff there.

A second but minor problem with the audio file is that it shows up as 31 seconds. The maximum allowed by Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples is 30 seconds. Perhaps it needs a touch of trimming. Binksternet (talk) 18:18, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

There certainly is a lot of stuff. That's practically a whole new article section right there...! I can easily add something to the upload justification. I might even have a go at chopping off a whole second. Or maybe I'll re-do to include a bit with the talk box. But then, as I said, if we've got the whole thing available via VEVO/YouTube... why bother?? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:25, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

So I've uploaded a new version, trimmed to exactly 30 seconds, and I've added "contextual significance" to the upload rationale. I've also started a "Production" section at the article. However, this upload at YouTube, at the Joe Walsh - Topic channel, is marked "Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group", so I'd suggest adding that complete track as the official audio instead. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Hey Binky.... "It wasn't like they played "musical chairs" with the guys in the band, they played musical bands". Martinevans123 (talk) 22:15, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

But this all begs the much more fundamental epistemological question: "can music ever be fully described in written words?", to which most people would almost certainly answer "No." Martinevans123 (talk) 13:58, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Time Out of Mind

Hi, yes this particular single is a bit tricky, though the site is the official Dutch charts database, it usually cites US and UK release dates. when I checked the label, it was not a US release, so I removed the '6'. though it's safe to assume the single was released around that time, as it charted on March 14 on Billboard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ray1983a (talk • contribs) 19:55, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Ray1983a, is this the single you are referring to? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:24, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, Time Out of Mind.

after checking the catalogue number for the source, 'Reelin in the years' turns out to be the German single, so altough it was the official release date in that country, I don't know if it would have a place on wikipedia as The release date, probably better to use US dates when available. this was the reason I checked these dates again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ray1983a (talk • contribs) 21:49, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

See the details for the released parameter at Template:Infobox song. I assume for a single by a US band we would generally use the date of release in USA. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:11, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

One More Last Chance

6 minutes and 30 seconds of guitar heaven.. .Keb' Mo', Albert Lee, et al., et al. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:39, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

and some more. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:31, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

....Well, whaddayaknow. You wait all day for a beard to come past and then three come along at once. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Not bad at all. – Sca (talk) 22:17, 22 July 2021 (UTC).

Énormes escargots

US border agents seize 15 giant snails

Why doesn't really juicy stuff like this get nominated at ITN/C? Who cares about old Russian rockets? – Sca (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

EU Warning: Not currently permitted as an animal-derived product under the terms of the Northern Ireland Protocol. -- Snaily Lewis 123 (talk) 22:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Bill Gates' investment removed – why?

Why have you removed the fact that Bill Gates invested in an Israeli "security" company headed by Isabel Maxwell? Please explain that. --CarlPhilippTrump.me (talk) 16:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, well, overlooking the grammar issues that I mentioned in my edit summary: "deleting last para which looks like WP:SYNTH and also has grammar issues", I guess it was because the item said that Isabel was "the sister of Ghislaine Maxwell, which is accused of being Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirator in trafficking child sex slaves", and you're topic banned from editing about Jeffrey Epstein? But this subject is probably best discussed, with the other three interested editors, over at Talk:Bill Gates#Multiple paragraphs connecting Gates to Jeffrey Epstein? By all means ask over there. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:16, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

July 2021

Your edit to Ulting Wick has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. The material should be rewordable; please let me know if that is not the case. Yeeno (talk) 🍁 21:07, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

I have opened a thread at Talk:Ulting Wick. You seriously wish to consider blocking me from editing? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:09, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Looks to me like templating the regulators. But I did look at the page history and talk page discussion, and it does look to me like it should have been paraphrased more than it was. Happy gardening, everyone! --Tryptofish (talk) 22:24, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

By all means show us how it's done over there. Perhaps we should paraphrase the names of the magazines? But good on Yeeno for watching that article so closely (?) Must be a keen gardener, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:51, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

A quick personal note saying "maybe try adjusting that paragraph because it looks too much like the original, thanks" might have a more positive effect. I used to make the effort of reporting possible copyvio to those editors who spend most of their time fighting it. But a few too many bare templates threatening a block saw my retirement from the copyvio Stassi. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Many thanks for copyediting my edit to Robert Jenrick. It is much appreciated. 81.157.210.47 (talk) 10:35, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

"S'no biggie, dude" (as those young tearaway Millennial snowflake kids would have it, no doubt). But I have asked about those two sources on the Talk page. Cheers. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:38, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Did Richard Feynman use post-nominals?

You reverted my edit to the Richard Feynman page. Is there any evidence that Feynman cared about and used post-nominals? I doubt that he did. Also, his name is unique enough that the post-nominals aren't needed as a disambiguation tool either. I checked that the ForMemRS (as well as any other) post-nominals are missing from the article about Albert Einstein. I think that Richard Feynman deserves the same treatment. Leon.Manukyan (talk) 17:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Leon, Thanks for your note. Best discussed at Talk:Richard Feynman, I think. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:30, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

RIP Jackie Mason

"England is the only country in the world where the food is more dangerous than the sex." [31]. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:18, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Dusty Hill

On 29 July 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Dusty Hill, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT•C 16:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Spencer. If he's good enough for The Grauniad and Old Slowhand, then I guess he's good enough for us. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

"Just let me know if you wanna go, To that home out on the range."

He sang lead on this one. Tejas was their career highlight for me. Not a remix or a remaster or a synthesizer in sight! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

"You could say we were out of our mind, But let me tell you we were busily editing Wikipedia. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:26, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

August songs

Thank you for caring about him! Had the tree person, and two Polish musicians lined up ... but today is my 12th, DYK? (So: only fun work, a song of thanks, and expand a great woman.) I decorated, also for a birthday of that clan. Songs invite to more music, places, food and flowers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Interesting articles, Gerda. Many thanks for sharing. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

moar YT - composer/speaker pictured in August songs --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks, Tatiana Sikorskaja is so good. Meanwhile... "Ridin' around in your jeep or your Benzos, Or in your Nissan sitting on Lorenzos" (if you know what I mean). Martinevans123 (talk) 20:28, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! - Today: 2 interesting DYK (I think), sadly 2 who died (on top of 2 from Poland yesterday), and a concert in which Daniel Barenboim just played piano, - and afterwards he and the orchestra received last year's prize (pictured). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Today: 3 DYK, including that the author dedicated a summer story to a license plate number ;) - Five rows of images added, sunflowers and butterflies continued, four rows of 15 August alone, - a rich Monteverdi day, - enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

What's her name

Finally the Poles do something positive. May if we give them praise they'll do more? – Sca (talk) 19:59, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

"Comin' over 'ere..... fixin' all the stuff we've broken..." Martinevans123 (talk) 21:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC) [32]

Vincent Van Gogh

I'm happy to help out, and can do so again if you have other similar requests. I do a lot of translation (English to French and French to English) in my spare time. Xuxl (talk) 12:02, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

That's very good of you. Thankyou very much. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:15, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Mo Farah

Hello, just wanted to touch base with you regarding Mo Farah's lead. I noticed you accepted the inclusion of his birthplace prior to the nationality in the first sentence of the lead by another user, and was wondering what your thoughts were regarding this. I appreciate your participation on the talk page and just wanted to know your perspective. Apoorva Iyer (talk) 12:58, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Apoorva Iyer. Thanks for your note. I think that addition by User:Emily19911991 here was acceptable. I have just tweaked it in line with the Categories already listed for Farah. But I have no strong view - his place of birth is very clearly describe and linked at the star of the third paragraph of the lead. So it may be somewhat superfluous. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:04, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey Apoorva Iyer. I'm very sorry to see you have retired. I can only imagine it's because of the aggressive attitude of certain other editors. I do hope you might reconsider. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:21, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Dude.:) DBaK (talk) 15:17, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah yes, Ravel! Heavenly. King of the Kazoo! Martinevans123 (talk) 15:29, 6 August 2021 (UTC) I lasted 2 minutes 30...

Gosh. How lovely. I'm very impressed that you made it to 150 seconds. Strangely, it says that Comments are turned off. Why on earth would anyone do that? Sheeeeeeesh. DBaK (talk) 20:16, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I shall resist posting yet again, a link to the Temple City Kazoo Orchestra (as featured, in the late 1970s, on his Radio 1 rock-show, by the late, great Mr Ravenscroft) but I urge you to search for yourself! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:25, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Rod Stewart

Just discovered this yesterday.[33]. While I always liked his 80s kitsch stuff, may have to rethink my long held Rod in the 70s was evil stance. Its as good as the stones. Those drums/high hats! Ceoil (talk) 12:40, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Wow. Excellent. Have never had a copy of that one. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:11, 7 August 2021 (UTC) p.s. the live clip on YT from BBC's Totally British 70s Rock 'n' Roll also worth a look (features a very 70's tache and Ronnie's "distinctive" guitar)

How's it possible to have over 100,000 edits?

Also, do you speak multiple languages? Hælþ (talk) 10:43, 10 August 2021 (UTC)Hælþ

It's much easier than over 4 million? Most of my 181,049 are probably spelling mistakes corrections. I can read some other languages (very poorly) but can't really speak them very well. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Come to think of it, I should do more with speeling misteaks. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:37, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

You can't bite a bot of Kiwi pink. Better than having nothing to spray!! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:40, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

I recently achieved my 600th deleted edit. What a wretched waste of time those mistakes must have been! The other 99.3% of lifebar I'll never regenerate was worth it, though, because 00.7% looks like 007 to drunk women in dark bars. Or, as the cool kids say, knackered birds in gloomy pubs. Or, and let's be honest here, to a hosed hoser hosily stroking his "withered and useless" ego in front of a couple of strange men on the Internet, before hosing himself off at home. In any case, cheers to one of you for being slightly over twice my size where it counts, and to the other for abstaining from this depraved lifestyle for so long! InedibleHulk (talk) 04:50, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Some of my best edits were self-reverts. I'd be happy to delete a few hundred more for you. Just send me a list. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:22, 14 August 2021 (UTC) p.s. we talking hose here, or them hoes?

Hoser, and yes. InedibleHulk (talk) 12:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah, so no relation to Yowsah! Yowsah! Yowsah!! Roger Niles 123 (talk) 12:55, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

... that's all I want from you (only about 3 minutes shorter than it should be...) No article yet for Sherwood Fleming. But we do have one for Sophie Tucker: "Something to be Thankful For". Martinevans123 (talk) 19:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

When I said YouTube was nasty and left its poodles in charge, I was only half-kidding. I'll check out the clearly-titled links later, on the app, as God intended. "In The Meantime", I have no doubt those are all very clever allusions, and I shall ponder them deeply at the appropriate juncture, but for now, I'll give serious thought to this mass self-reversion scheme. If I pretend to be sorry for "fixing" just under 4,000 things, I can strut around wearing nothing but a Grandmaster badge. That'll show 'em I mean business! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Ooh, get you! very flashy. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:02, 15 August 2021 (UTC) use your imagination man, it's just an allusion

Vandalism

Once you finally figure out what Bacha bazi is, please kindly remove your offensive comment on my talk page. Thank you. --212.74.201.233 (talk) 11:34, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

To whom is your slang jibe directed? Or are you're suggesting this is something practised by most Afghan men, who thus deserve all they get from the Taliban? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:36, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

The Fall

Some of us actually remember this. – Sca (talk) 12:38, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but suspect it may have missed "ongoing" by now. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:41, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Is it time for Ghani to get his gun yet? – Sca (talk) 14:05, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Or maybe just go to Uzbekistan. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for promoting my footnote to an independent article for Tregrug Castle – I'm honoured

Thank you for doing me the honour of promoting my footnote to a full article. Especially spiffy is that the new article replaces the former-redirect, giving Tregrug / Llangibi Castle its own, separate article. Why didn't I think of that?

Embarrassed, but happy regards/

Tom Lloyd William Lougheed

107.127.18.43 (talk) 00:57, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

(Yeah, it's an "anonymous edit", I find it keeps down the noise from editors hacked-off by my redacting BC / AD to BCE / CE, when I think I might get away with it.)

No worries. Thanks for your efforts. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:35, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I've started tidying it up. Sorry, but it was a bit of a mess. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:43, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

There is a lot of ivy. But if it does date from the Late Middle Ages, I guess that's to be expected! Martinevans123 (talk) 07:54, 17 August 2021 (UTC) ... any relation? "We've been expecting you Mr. Guy"....

Have stuck some sources on the Talkpage. As an aside, I'm not at all sure that any of them agree with the Time Team conclusion that the building was primarily a pleasance. Another interesting point for me is the continuing dominance of the Williams family. When I lived about a mile from the castle in the 80s, Mrs Adams-Williams still owned a very great deal of Llangybi and the surrounding estate, as her forbears had done 400 years before. KJP1 (talk) 08:56, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. In my youth I often used to cycle to Llangybi and Llandegfedd and had friends at Coed-y-paen and at the forge. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:59, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Harry, Meghan speechless over Afghanistan

You'll be glad to know the Dynastic Duo have issued a statement saying they have been left speechless over the situation in Afnamistan.
– Sca (talk) 12:32, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah yes. They also "... released a joint statement through their Archewell Foundation about the situation in Afghanistan, the earthquake and tropical storm in Haiti, and the continued COVID-19 pandemic." I guess they get all their best ideas from ITN on WP main page. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Seems they don't care about the situation in Zambia, though. How crass. Sca (talk) 12:44, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

The death of Peter Fleischmann also seems to have passed them by completely. But let's hope Archie well. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:51, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing Fleischmann, overdue. 3 DYK today, some record I believe, including the novel dedicated to a license plate, - found that better than the erotic scene of three (1931). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Una Stubbs

On 18 August 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Una Stubbs, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:11, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. "I'm not a bloomin' kid, I don't wanna play with ma dinner!!" Martinevans123 (talk) 16:53, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

The Tally Band

Can the leopard change his spots? – Sca (talk) 22:08, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

"The Taliban so far have offered no specifics on how they will lead, other than to say they will be guided by Shariah, or Islamic, law. ... Beyond the difficulties of bringing food into the landlocked nation dependent on imports, she said that over 40% of the country’s crop has been lost to drought." Most of the country's money is, apparently, tied up in the US. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:16, 19 August 2021 (UTC)