Talk:Ireland

Population Rank is wrong

Ireland is not number 19, but number 122.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population

It is only 19 in rank of Islands — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.225.54.242 (talk) 21:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Indeed you are correct but if you click on the blue linked text "Population rank" to the left of the text "19th" it brings you to List of islands by population, where it is, surprise, surprise, 19th. ww2censor (talk) 22:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Earliest Human History

The section "Prehistoric Ireland" says Until recently, the earliest evidence of human presence in Ireland was dated at 12,500 years ago, demonstrated by a butchered bear bone found in a cave in County Clare.[17] Since 2021, the earliest evidence of human presence in Ireland is dated to 33,000 years ago.[18]" but then "Emergence of Celtic Ireland" says "The National Museum of Ireland have on display two 300,000 - 400,000 year-old stone tools which were found in Ireland, one on Inishmore island, Co Galway and the other at Mell Co Louth, just 9 km from Newgrange.[37]"

This is a difference of 270,000 years or more - how can both be true? Prymal (talk) 22:18, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Both are island or coastal. Is it possible that there is question as to whether the stone tools were products of human habitation of Ireland, as opposed to washed up from elsewhere? --OuroborosCobra (talk) 22:24, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

The NMI claim fails verification, though - it's just a link to the landing page on the NMI website, for their collections. Poking around the website, we're told the find in Mell was likely brought to Ireland on an ice-sheet; and further, it's dated to only "before 70,000 years ago", not 300,000-400,000 years ago. I'll remove the latter sentence. Good catch! Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

And in deleting that, I noted the photograph in that section, which apparently was taken in the NMI and shows the captions under a flint axe and "flake" (I'd call it a chunk myself!) that make the 300,000 - 400,000 year-old claim. Curious and curiouser... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2021

The term ‘British Isles’ is consider offensive to Irish Nationalists and it is unnecessary in the context used. Please remove the sentences it appears in as the do not contribute in any meaning way to the topic. 212.129.82.247 (talk) 09:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Not done - Please see multiple previous discussions - no new arguments have been put forward. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:20, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Removal of GDP table

I've removed the following GDP table from the article:

Area	Population	Country	City	2012 GDP €	GDP per person €	2014 GDP €	GDP per person €
Dublin Region	1,350,000	ROI	Dublin	€72.4 bn	€57,200	€87.238 bn	€68,208
South-West Region	670,000	ROI	Cork	€32.3 bn	€48,500	€33.745 bn	€50,544
Greater Belfast	720,000	NI	Belfast	€20.9 bn	€33,550	€22.153 bn	€34,850
West Region	454,000	ROI	Galway	€13.8 bn	€31,500	€13.37 bn	€29,881
Mid-West Region	383,000	ROI	Limerick	€11.4 bn	€30,300	€12.116 bn	€31,792
South-East Region	510,000	ROI	Waterford	€12.8 bn	€25,600	€14.044 bn	€28,094
Mid-East Region	558,000	ROI	Bray	€13.3 bn	€24,700	€16.024 bn	€30,033
Border Region	519,000	ROI	Drogheda	€10.7 bn	€21,100	€10.452 bn	€20,205
East of Northern Ireland	430,000	NI	Ballymena	€9.5 bn	€20,300	€10.793 bn	€24,100
Midlands Region	290,000	ROI	Athlone	€5.7 bn	€20,100	€6.172 bn	€21,753
West and South of Northern Ireland	400,000	NI	Newry	€8.4 bn	€19,300	€5.849 bn	€20,100
North of Northern Ireland	280,000	NI	Derry	€5.5 bn	€18,400	€9.283 bn	€22,000
Total	6.6 m			€216.7 bn		€241 bn

It clearly has a lot of moving parts and there isn't enough activity on this article / interest in this topic to keep it regularly updated (last change was in 2014). Not only are the GDP figures wildly outdated (2012), but the regions they correspond to have also changed and will likely do so again on a semi-regular basis (think 2018, Mid-East, Border, Mid-West, South-East all changed boundaries).

I also feel the smaller table that was above it (which I updated recently) more or less illustrates the info, but is a much less onerous task to keep up to date.

--Jacobfrid (talk) 08:11, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Do I notice the grand total of zero (0) sources? The Banner talk 08:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

It had a eurostat ref that is saved on Wayback Machine (see below), but I personally haven't been able to view it.

--Jacobfrid (talk) 09:07, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

"session invalid". But before this table is restored in anyway (preferably updated) it should be properly sourced. The Banner talk 09:21, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2021

The title of the article should be "Ireland (Island)" so as not to be confused with the article for Ireland the country. Cashew.wheel (talk) 08:43, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Not done See the prominent notice at the top of the page. Not up for discussion here. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 09:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2021

British ISLEs is not recognised in Ireland and the terminology should be changed 89.19.67.60 (talk) 23:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)