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William Ellis (actor)[edit]

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Actor has only been in smaller playhouse renditions of notable stories but not been part of notable stage productions. They have only had minors roles on any television and movie roles. The references that mention him are either a listing, profile or mentions in the reviews of the plays, therefore fails WP:NACTOR. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 16:37, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

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Keep, seems to meet the notability guidelines. Like I mentioned on the talk page, it is not to be confused with the Canadian actor (which the first deletion nomination was about). I know that I shouldn’t compare articles but look at Ben Lloyd-Hughes compared to this article. Both the actors were in Great Expectations (2012 film). Are you going to delete that article? Sahaib3005 (talk) 16:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm confused are you saying they meet the criteria because they aren't Canadian and shared screen time with someone else that has a poorly referenced article? McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 16:53, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
WP:NACTOR says "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions". Significant roles: Main character (Anlance) in Dragon Quest Swords, Compeyson in Great Expectations (2012 film), Peck in How I Learned to Drive, Wiktor in The Courageous Heart of Irena Sendler, Earl of Chester in Queen of the Desert (film), Aubrey in Parade's End (TV series), etc.Sahaib3005 (talk) 17:07, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep per criteria 1 of WP:NACTOR. He has had multiple credited roles in notable films which, while not leading roles, are significant supporting characters (Compeyson being particularly important). That along with voicing the main character is a notable video game seems to put him on the keep side of the fence. I wish there were better sources to demonstrate SIGCOV which is why I voted weak keep.4meter4 (talk) 17:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I am the original author of the piece, and I am grateful for all your comments. Just FYI, Ellis UK Theatre is definitely not "smaller playhouse renditions of notable stories but not been part of notable stage productions" - he was a leading man at Vaudeville Theatre (West End London), and played at National Theatre / Theatre Royal Bath etc... All his stage roles have been in major UK venues, not what I would call non-notable stage productions in the slightest. Film roles have been both significant and also smaller parts.BarracudaBaby1980 (talk) 22:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

William John Wolfgram[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. An officer who died in World War II and achieved nothing meaningful. Lettlerhellocontribs 00:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

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Nageeb al-Hadi[edit]

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He doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:BIO. Boleyn (talk) 21:12, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Subject is a WP:BLP1E case for briefly being suspected of involvement in 9/11; no further basis for notability exists here. BD2412 T 21:34, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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A.C.Kadloor[edit]

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non-elected politician fails WP:NPOL. As per available References also fails WP:GNG. DMySon (talk) 11:21, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

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Eleanor Seigler[edit]

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Non-notable, non-active actress. Only source present is about her husband, not her. Searches bring up few results, just passing mentions to her role on The Office. Fails GNG – Broccoli & Coffee (Oh hai) 16:15, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

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Manoj Dey[edit]

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The three cited sources in the article all have a disclaimer at the bottom of the page, which reads Disclaimer: This is a Brand Desk content. Sponsored content is unacceptable and does not count towards WP:GNG. Searching "Manoj Dey" yields many similar sources across a variety of Indian news sources but I was unable to find one that contained significant coverage as well as not being marked as a press release. For this reason, I believe that the article should be deleted for having a lack of independent and reliable coverage about him. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:39, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete Lack of independent sources to show notability per WP:GNG. --John B123 (talk) 09:50, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: non-notable run-of-the-mill YouTuber, sources are all paid for and there is nothing better in a BEFORE search. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 10:03, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Could've been speedy deleted imo. No reliable sources exist, meaning the subject doesn't pass WP:GNG. One more article for the Wikipedia:WikiProject YouTube/Notability graveyard. Curbon7 (talk) 10:11, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete due to lack of WP:SIGCOV in independent reliable sources. Sponsored content/press releases do not contribute to notability. -- Ab207 (talk) 05:16, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Lexie Bigham[edit]

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Minor actor who played small forgettable roles with the exception of one larger supporting role (but still not a leading role) in South Central. Fails the multiple significant roles portion of criteria 1 of WP:NACTOR. Does not meet any other notability criteria for actors or at WP:ANYBIO. Lacks significant coverage in independent reliable references. Fails WP:SIGCOV. 4meter4 (talk) 03:27, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

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Minah Bird[edit]

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Actress who only played minor supporting roles. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:ANYBIO. Subject lacks significant coverage in reliable independent references. Fails WP:SIGCOV. 4meter4 (talk) 03:56, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep  – Since she lived in the 20th century, an online BEFORE is not likely to bring up much. She is however notable for her work in the 70s. An African immigrant lady with named roles for that time is laudable. It also does not help that there's a bird named "Myna. Searching "Myna Bird" in Google books however brings up the following which suggest that more OFFLINE sources exist and the subject meets WP:BASIC;
Described as the 'only major black starlet in British sex films'
Described as a starlet
Described as socialite who fell from grace
Other mentions: [1] [2][3][4][5][6]Princess of Ara(talk) 09:21, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
I would agree that the first source is significant, but all of the others are entirely trivial. This snippet view source "Described as a starlet" is a tabloid type article and not encyclopedic or significant per WP:NOTTABLOID. This "::Described as socialite who fell from grace" is a personal reminiscence lacking independence which uses her suicide as a moral fable but gives no analysis or discussion of her career to be considered significant. All of the other sources ([7] [8][9][10][11][12]) are trivial name drops or personal stories that are totally insignificant. For example, the first (and 4th as you gave it twice) of those sources describes using her for sex off camera; and is a rather disgusting tale of male conquest. With only one source rising to the level of coverage to meet notability, she still does not meet WP:BASIC.
With all do respect, I spend most of my time writing on entertainers/performers from the 19th and 20th centuries and have the research skills and access through my university library to historical newspapers and entertainment publications going back to even the 1800s. Miss Bird was not mentioned in detail in film reviews that I could find after going through several archive searches in PROQUEST, JSTOR, and other databases. Granted not everything has been digitized, but I did go through Variety, Billboard, The Stage, The Guardian, The Observer, The Times, etc. I also searched the Entertainment Publications archive in PROQUEST which has digitized most of Britain’s major film and television related magazines of the 1970s. In reviews, Miss Bird was either not mentioned at all or relegated to an un-named character list of "other actors" when they were because she was not in any leading or notable secondary /supporting roles. None of it was significant coverage. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:16, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
Quite unfortunately, I don't have access to similar resources or databases but tried my best to optimise the ones within my reach. I decided to participate in this debate because of her Nigerian origin and found her story quite interesting. The other trivial mentions only point to the fact that she probably has more OFFLINE coverage and is most likely notable. Since we have one significant source, I've taken another deep dive.
  • Keep The Times says that "She starred in many films, such as Up Pompeii..." and so she passes WP:ENTERTAINER. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:47, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
Um... her role in that film was "Girl Bather" and was very brief and minor and not even a credited role in the movie. A lot of the problem with the sources being listed here is that they are full of puffery. An uncredited film role with less than a minute of screen time and little or no dialogue is not a starring part. 4meter4 (talk) 17:19, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Ren Keyu[edit]

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Not a notable person. A minor and the only reference in the article is the Guinness Book of World Records. BEFORE search just gives some low quality "Chinese teen breaks world record according to Guinness" coverage. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 23:23, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. 2018 sources:
      1. 顾爱刚 (2018-06-26). 杨婷 (ed.). "年龄:11岁 身高:206厘米 这个乐山男孩可能是全球最高小学生" [Age: 11 years old Height: 206 cm This Leshan boy may be the tallest elementary school student in the world]. zh:成都商报. Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07 – via Xinhua News Agency.

        This is an extensive profile of the subject.

      2. "被同學譏笑像巨人怪物 11歲小六生高2.06米或成全球最高小學生" [Being ridiculed by classmates like a giant monster. An 11-year-old elementary school student with a height of 2.06 meters and could become the tallest elementary school student in the world]. Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). 2018-06-26. Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07.
      3. 朱加樟 (2018-06-26). "四川11歲小學生身高2.06米 或成健力士世界紀錄" [An 11-year-old elementary school student in Sichuan is 2.06 meters tall and may become the Guinness World Record holder] (in Chinese). HK01. Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07.
    2. 2020 sources about the subject's application to the Guinness World Records and subsequently setting the Guinness World Record:
      1. 顾爱刚 (2020-10-19). 郑亚鹏 (ed.). "四川14岁男孩高2米21,申请吉尼斯世界纪录" [A 14-year-old boy from Sichuan is 2.21 m tall and applies for the Guinness World Records]. zh:红星新闻 (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07 – via Sina Corporation.

        This is an extensive profile of the subject.

      2. 顾爱刚 (2020-11-18). 赖柳华 (ed.). "2米21!四川14岁男孩身高创吉尼斯纪录 成都商报 11月18日12:26" [2.21 m! A 14-year-old boy in Sichuan sets a Guinness record for height]. zh:成都商报 (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07 – via Sina Corporation.

        From Google Translate: "Red Star News exclusively reported that Xiaoyu challenged the title of "Tallest Youth (Male)" in the Guinness World Records, which attracted the attention of many netizens at home and abroad. The news once became a hot topic on Weibo that day, with more than 260 million readings, and Douyin videos played hundreds of millions of times."

      3. "只比姚明矮5cm! 14歲川童2米21 拚青少年金氏紀錄" [Only 5cm shorter than Yao Ming! 14-year-old Sichuan boy 2.21 m fights the youth Jin's record]. World Journal (in Chinese). 2020-10-20. Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07.
      4. 郑直 (2020-10-20). "四川14岁男孩身高2.21米 或超美国吉尼斯纪录保持者" [The 14-year-old boy in Sichuan is 2.21 meters tall and may surpass the Guinness record holder]. The China Press (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07.
      5. Kingsu-Cheng, Jane (2020-12-11). "Look: World's tallest teenager is a 14-year-old Chinese student". Manila Bulletin. Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07.
      6. Hooper, Ben (2020-11-20). "Chinese teenager breaks Guinness record with 7-foot height". United Press International. Archived from the original on 2021-08-07. Retrieved 2021-08-07.
    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Ren Keyu (Chinese: 小宇) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 11:48, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep meets WP:GNG per the source found by Cunard. Could you please add these source to the article?. Thanks VocalIndia (talk) 04:35, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Duclod Man[edit]

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I am absolutely failing to see how this is notable in any way.


1. Google only gives about ~3,000 results for the Duclod Man. ([14])


2. No clear evidence of lasting notability or even current notability.


3. The only RS used are the articles by the journalist mentioned in the article. Every single other source is primary, likely unreliable, and written by Duclod Man. wizzito | say hello! 18:23, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete: The main source is a, unreliable and primary source. A couple of other obviously unreliable sources exist, but nothing that proves this is an actual thing. It's the Walmart version of John Titor. Curbon7 (talk) 23:56, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Carlo Bonomi[edit]

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I saw this on the AFD list, but there is not an AFD on the page itself, so resubmitting. The original nominator was found to be sockpuppet, but his comments are worth a look "The article only contains three reliable sources of a non-notable voice actor. There's also a rumor speculating that says he died in September 2019, unfortunately there isn't enough relatable sources out there to confirmed if he really passed away or not." Peter303x (talk) 21:45, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep -- three reliable references seems entirely sufficient to me. And I don't think the (original) nominator unilateral assertion of non-notable is helpful to include, as both that's what we're adjudicating here, and it's clearly not an open and shut case, given that there are articles for him on a variety of other language wikis. matt91486 (talk) 14:46, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Ferdinand Belmont[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. A minor officer who died in World War I. Lettlerhellocontribs 13:53, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

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Anil Nandy[edit]

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He was in the squad of 17; but it appears India played only one match, in which he wasn't in the 11, and there were no substitutions. WP:NOLY says "compete" which I take to mean that the player has to have actually played. I find it unlikely that he meets WP:NFOOTY some other way. If he does, we need it demonstrated, as recent discussions indicate the community consensus is in favour of stricter scrutiny on one-source stubs, their basis for inclusion and the quality of such sourcing. Usedtobecool ☎️ 03:09, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete - there is past consensus that being a squad member only at a tournament is not sufficient, you have to actually play - and in the absence of any other sporting achievements or significant coverage, there is no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 10:27, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to his brother (according to Olympedia) Nikhil Nandy. Geschichte (talk) 14:26, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment India played France in the 1948 Olympics and this article states that "The midfield-forward duo of Anil and Sunil Nandy took the field for the Indian National team against France in the 1948 Olympic Games." This was the first football match independent India played. Just to clarify they were only on the bench as far I can see the article appears to state that took the field (on the bench) but did not play on the pitch.It is tough to find resources for 1948 players in a pre internet era and in a foreign language Bengali.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:02, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
This has all the squads for each match of the tournament. Search for "India" to find the match against France. There are 11 players listed for India, but he's not one of them. While he fails WP:NOLY, I guess there's a chance of him meeting WP:GNG, esp. in Bengali sources. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:02, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Gerri Ratliff[edit]

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Certainly accomplished, but doesn't meet WP:NPOL, and not enough in-depth coverage to meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 16:37, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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"Quoted in" isn't a notability criterion for political figures. Notability does not derive from being the speaker in coverage about other things, it derives from being the subject that other people are speaking or writing about in the third person. Bearcat (talk) 16:52, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Comment - The position director of the Community Relations Service, is a political appointment, therefore NPOL would apply. And being it's director is not an automatic notability criteria. Onel5969 TT me 21:01, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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List of American people convicted of drug offenses[edit]

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Does not appear to meet WP:LISTN - i.e. while “people who are convicted of drug offences” in the abstract is widely covered in sources, there does not appear to be any coverage relating to this list specifically as a set of people. Furthermore, this list is extremely problematic from a BLP standpoint in its present form given that it is largely unsourced. firefly ( t · c ) 20:51, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Speedy delete: This list violates our policies regarding attack pages. ―Susmuffin Talk 21:05, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Yes, Speedy delete, I believe there are typically over a million drug offense arrests per year in the US, many of which will lead to a conviction, so this list will be either the size of the telephone directory of a decent-sized country, or it will be a selective list including only the names of those who some WP editor has decided to 'Name and shame'. It is of no encyclopaedic value, and unless its accuracy is incredibly carefully scrutinised, it will malign the innocent (especially those with common names). It goes against the spirit of WP and is an extremely ill-advised list. Elemimele (talk) 21:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per NLIST. More restricted lists are probably okay, e.g. celebrities, athletes, but not the whole kit and kaboodle. Doesn't qualify for G10 speedy deletion IMO. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Grotesquely inappropriate and unwise. Gildir (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep and definitely don't Speedy Delete per Clarityfiend's rationale; however, at the same time, rename to List of notable Americans convicted of drug offenses, and do significant clean-up so that most of the page is cited with reliable sources. The topic of notable people getting convicted for drugs is the main topic of sources from Complex mag, Business Insider, Cine-tale, and NealDavisLaw, which meets LISTN for this reason: "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". Additionally, stating that the article was meant as an "attack page" not only is not in the spirit of WP:AGF, but is also unlikely given that it was created by a user who created this article in January 2021 and is very experienced, having made several contributions to this website since 2014 [15] (User:Prisencolin), plus the fact that in the article's first state it at least had properly-formatted cites, if not for every person claimed to be convicted of drugs. Also, to address Elemimele's concern of potentially having to list a million offenders, most of them wouldn't have to be listed if we made a criteria (as we do other list articles) determining which person is notable enough to be listed. 👨x🐱 (talk) 22:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment. All four of your lists are of celebrities. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:54, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
      • Um.... yeah, celebrities are notable individuals. 👨x🐱 (talk) 22:59, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
        • But not all (or even most) notable people are celebrities. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: It seems this slipped through NPP since the tagging script automatically reviews an article unless you untick a tiny little box. This article is such a WP:BLP violation. Curbon7 (talk) 23:24, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete An article ripe with BLP violations, I'm amazed it has lasted this long. JayJayWhat did I do? 01:30, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NLIST, WP:INDISCRIMINATE and WP:BLP. An unwieldy topic. Ajf773 (talk) 09:35, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: One of an endless number of indiscriminate lists and articles that seem to have been created to boost edit counts. This is an easy open-and-close case. BOTTO (TC) 17:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as of today not very useful.BabbaQ (talk) 08:36, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete as per nomination, and the fact this violates Wikipedia's policy about attack pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TH1980 (talkcontribs) 05:30, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete I don't think it matters very much if this was meant as an WP:Attack page or not—it's still inevitably going to come across as an attempt to name and shame to anyone visiting the page, which is a terrible look for Wikipedia. I take rather a strict view of WP:BLP when it comes to crime—we must of course abide by WP:BLPCRIME with regards to waiting for convictions, but we must also make sure that we only mention that living people have been convicted of crimes when it is actually relevant and to do so in WP:PROPORTION to that relevance. A list consisting entirely of drug convictions is rather dubious from that perspective and WP:DELREASON#9 (Articles that breach Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living persons) may apply even if WP:G10 doesn't. At any rate, WP:DELREASON#14 (Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia) applies since this list is WP:INDISCRIMINATE; it might be possible to create lists with more restricted scopes as suggested by Clarityfiend, but those would of course be different lists altogether rather than different versions of this one. And since the WP:BLP concerns are so strong, I think that before any such lists are created it should be demonstrated that WP:LISTCRITERIA can be outlined such that the lists meet WP:LISTN and serve a valid WP:LISTPURPOSE while being compliant with WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. TompaDompa (talk) 02:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete I'd expect this list to be hopelessly broad, even if properly sourced and restricted to notable individuals. The corresponding Category:American people convicted of drug offenses and its subcategories jointly contain 350 articles, not including this list. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 10:08, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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Brent M. Longnecker[edit]

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Article recently restored after PROD about a business person who does not seem to have enough coverage to meet the criteria for WP:ANYBIO. I can't find anything that seems to help in establishing notability. I have reverted a large addition of promotional CV style edits. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 20:25, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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We agree for the removal of the CV style editing. We will review the policy and suggest edits/changes to be made instead. Hope this is sufficient to remove the pending deletion of the page - if not, please let me know what else is needed. Thank you! Maxandmyleigh (talk) 20:55, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Blatant promotion, and the provided sources that are not mere name drops are blatant PR or churnalism. Fails WP:GNG. --Kinu t/c 21:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete notable as neither a writer not a businessperson.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Bholowalia[edit]

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No indication of notability, not suitable as a disambig since no article titles contain this name. Unsourced since creation, nothing substantive about the name found on a search. Ineligible for PROD due to a de-PROD in 2012. ♠PMC(talk) 18:57, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • I'll settle for just one notable Bholowalia: if you can give me just one, I'll be in favour of retaining this as a "surname page". But if you can't provide one notable Bholowalia then I fear I must plump for Delete. Let's note that this article can always be re-created later, when needed. RomanSpa (talk) 21:43, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: as stated above. The topic itself does not meet GNG and seemingly no notable people with the surname. -- Ab207 (talk) 06:25, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

List of regular users of amphetamine[edit]

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I really do not think this is an appropriate topic for a standalone list - insofar as I can tell, we don't have similar lists for alcohol, marijuana, or cocaine just to name a few, nor would we categorize people by their use of substances. None of these people are notable for drug use, and the criteria of "regular user" is totally subjective. ♠PMC(talk) 16:25, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment: I'm at a loss to see what value this list has. I can understand why we have lists of prime ministers, of species of bacteria, and of people who studied at a particular school, because these lists are helpful to users in identifying commonalities between the members of the lists, and in identifying obvious outliers, but it seems to me that the variety of users of amphetamines is potentially so large, and the commonalities (other than that of drug use) likely so indecipherable, that it is impossible for this list to provide any useful content for our readers. I'm abstaining from expressing a view on the future of this article until I've seen what other people have to say about this page, whether positive or negative. RomanSpa (talk) 17:21, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Looks like I picked the wrong week to !vote delete - Humor aside, too indiscriminate of a list. --MuZemike 17:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. I was a bit conflicted about this nomination given that most of the arguments for deletion fell into the lines of WP:OTHERSTUFF (comment from ♠PMC♠ about similar articles not existing for other addictive substance) and WP:NOTUSEFUL (the claims about commonalities between drug users being so indecipherable the article would be useful). However, I couldn't find any sources about or non-trivially discussing notable people using drugs, which makes me !vote Delete for being an potentially WP:INDISCRIMINATE list. If this article is to be kept, it should be a list of people notable for using drugs, with a criteria of how to determine that. 👨x🐱 (talk) 20:19, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete as likely to operate as an attack-page list. Similar to list of convicted drug users also nominated AfD. This list even starts with a note that it is incomplete. On what basis is someone unfortunate enough to be included or excluded? Are those included selected because a WP editor wants to name-and-shame for drug use? That's not the role of an encyclopaedia. Elemimele (talk) 21:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
@HumanxAnthro: I'm sorry, maybe I didn't put that well, and I'm open to the idea that I'm completely wrong! I certainly didn't want to accuse any individual editor, or those who have populated the list so far, of using it as an attack page. I was more worried that if someone in the future found themselves unwillingly in a scandal because of an amphetamine addiction, it would be all too easy for an ill-willed person to use this list as a way to draw attention to, and publicize their problem. Although I assume good faith of editors where possible, I think we have to be open to the idea that some people, generally from outside the WP community, may attempt to use WP for the wrong purposes (and that's why we have a helpful team of admins). I felt, perhaps wrongly, that this list was particularly liable to becoming a target of that sort of mis-use from outside. I would have less concern about the list were I certain that it could remain a reliable historical record of those notable people who've battled addiction, but even then, it runs the risk of focussing too much attention on that aspect of their life without the balancing information of everything else they did. Though of course these people have their main articles for that. Elemimele (talk) 06:51, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the clarification. From what I've seen, you've just gotten started contributing to the site this year, and are new it, so I'll let you know this. These are hugely valid concerns, and user contributions for publicity (WP:ADVERTISEMENT) or personal attack reasons is an all-too unfortunate reality on here. However, you must keep in mind that (most of the time) we keep or delete articles based on a subject's coverage and notability, not whether another user will use it for bad intentions. Issues of balance, aka WP:DUEWEIGHT, WP:NPOV, and attack potential are separate issues of cleanup and user behavior, not AFD issues, although there are exceptions where articles are deleted not only for being not notable but also for obviously (emphasis on obviously) being attack pages. 👨x🐱 (talk) 14:59, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Grotesquely inappropriate and unwise. Gildir (talk) 22:44, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete This is an incredibly stupid list that probably can't be sourced without a violation of a patient's privacy, and if even if they're dead, it's just unseemly to categorize people like this. Nate (chatter) 02:58, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep as this seems to be a borderline meet of WP:LISTN - you can quite easily find lists of celebrities who have taken meth. The reliability of these sources is iffy which is why this is only a weak keep, but this does seem to be a reasonable topic to have a list on. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:41, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Here's an example list in what is generally considered a reliable source. Elli (talk | contribs) 04:46, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
      • Let's not conflate methamphetamine and amphetamine. TompaDompa (talk) 00:44, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
        • Oh true, that's a silly oversight on my part. I guess I didn't really expect a list for the non-meth amphetamine since well, what is the point of that? On the other hand, given that it's medication, I wouldn't expect the reaction that this has gotten so... whatever. Probably doesn't meet LISTN after all. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:40, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete If this were a category, I'd say it's WP:NONDEFINING. The same kind of logic applies here – the list is WP:INDISCRIMINATE and should be deleted per WP:DELREASON#14 (Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia). I can elaborate on that if anybody wants me to, but it seems that we are (mostly) on the same page here. I'll also note that while only one person currently on this list is still alive, the very concept of the list is a WP:BLP nightmare. TompaDompa (talk) 00:41, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Makoto Uchida (game developer)[edit]

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There don't appear to be enough reliable third-party sources that cover this person in depth. Previous nominations brought up some interviews that were posted on his employers website or bundled with Sega products. In the 15(!) years since the first nomination, no third-party sources have been added. I have eventually found one third-party source, which I've since added, but wp:notability people calls for multiple of such sources. Find sources: Google (books · news · newspapers · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · TWL Find sources: Google (books · news · newspapers · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · NYT · TWL Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 13:45, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to Sega AM1, and I’ll add a bit about his being a part of AM1/WOW there and maybe a sentence of him later taking the position in Shanghai. Seems like a valid WP:ATD-R given a large part of his game development was with AM1 and its predecessor groups such as Team Shinobi. Red Phoenix talk 15:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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Julius Dein[edit]

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A strong COI/Paid concern, created by a sock. This was kept at the previous AfD four years ago but, frankly, we got it weak consensus. Have over 20 million followers across social media does not make someone notable. Recently Wikipedia has been deprecated WP:ENTERTAINER#2 (Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.) I don't think he passes WP:BASIC because most of sources are paid news and gossip coverage and from short tabloid news. Doing a WP:Before gave me BBC article that reported he has 20m followers across all social media platforms, not a WP:SIGCOV. Don't forget to look Talk:Julius Dein. VocalIndia (talk) 11:22, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete There is a little notability here but it is not enough for a BLP. --DanielRigal (talk) 12:04, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete It doesn't appears to be notable, there aren't enough sources on this individual. Cheers. Tahaaleem Talk 15:04, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

George Brooksbank[edit]

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Non notable business people. Fails WP:GNG. DMySon (talk) 11:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete There are a few one-line mentions of his name in articles about his son (who is married to a member of the royal family), but nothing that could fairly be described as the significant coverage required by WP:BASIC. The only significant coverage is about his contracting and recovering from COVID, which seems to be very WP:BLP1E to me. Girth Summit (blether) 11:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: The first reference is a mention of him in an article about his son, the second calls him "Princess Eugenie's father-in-law" (which shows that it's about the family of Princess Eugenie which is, thus, more notable than him in the article), the third is a mention on him on a list, the fourth atricle is also about about son, and the fifth is about Princess Eugenies and Jack Brooksbank worrying for him (at least mostly). MatEditzWikiTalk!/Contribs! 12:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - bad faith article, undisclosed paid-for spam. Was moved into mainspace two weeks ago by CastiglioneCastiglione, whom I blocked for likely UPE spamming, the article was deleted via PROD, then immediately recreated by Ingaberg (now also blocked for UPE spamming). Does not deserve to be considered for inclusion on its merits. MER-C 17:34, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete – adding my !vote toward a possible SNOW close per MER-C and the arguments laid out above. Not to mention that this is borderline A7 anyway... oh, so you're a businessman from a wealthy British family, how quaint... AngryHarpytalk 12:20, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep notable person. I have read about him so want to look up in some offline sources. I will get back within a day. 2A02:C7E:1060:6D00:8DA9:F8AC:EF14:3B53 (talk) 21:16, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Sunil Gupta (entrepreneur)[edit]

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Non-notable individual - lacks sigcov from reliable third party sources. KH-1 (talk) 05:55, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete - Reads a lot like either a resume or a deliberately promotional article. Tube·of·Light 06:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete: Non-notable person. Umakant Bhalerao (talk) 17:31, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete, promotional article, no notability.SUN EYE 1 06:44, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete non-notable and some content such as the list of movies he marketed have no citations. Peter303x (talk) 19:33, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete No evidence of meeting GNG or any SNG. -- Ab207 (talk) 06:27, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - undisclosed paid-for spam, obvious sock/meatpuppetry. This is a bad faith article that does not deserve to be considered on its merits. MER-C 08:20, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Tomasi Kulimoetoke I[edit]

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Google search shows no reliable sources at all, and searching specifically for books in Google shows no major mentions at all. Tube·of·Light 05:49, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Redirect to List of kings of Uvea#Third Takumasiva Dynasty. My WP:BEFORE search turned up no WP:Significant coverage at all, the best I got was this which lists the reign as lasting from November 1924 to December 1928. There may be offline sources. At any rate, this is a plausible search term, so a redirect seems reasonable to me. There is nothing to merge, however; all the information here is already there. There are Wikipedia articles in two other languages: fr:Tomasi Kulimoetoke Ier and to:Tomasi Kulimoetoke I; these contain no further information than what little we already have here (at least I think so – the machine translation from Tongan I got was absolutely atrocious). TompaDompa (talk) 20:17, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

David Strickel[edit]

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Per WP:BIO, subjects should have significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. After a thorough search, I have not found such sources. David Strickel is a self-proclaimed "medium" who claims to be in touch with a supernatural force called "Tya" for "trust your abundance."

description of all available sources, which are not independent, not reliable, and almost entirely self-published.

The references currently cited in the article include: a paid advertisement in an online javascript-based spiritualist magazine [17], a radio interview from a cruise sponsored by that magazine that I don't think actually occurred [18], and links to his podcast episodes from this same magazine and his own podcast [19] [20] [21] and book by the same name [22].

All of these are WP:PRIMARY and not independent of the subject, because he paid for them. The only possibly secondary sources available are an interview from SpiritualBiz magazine [23] (which bills itself as "A magazine for Spiritual Entrepreneurs"), this podcast interview from a fellow medium/spiritualist [24], and this listicle "24 books about Spirituality that are actually worth reading" from fupping.com.

Fupping.com has this on their about page: "Fupping aims to revolutionise the industry by putting the power to create back in the hands of you, the readers. We very much live by the mantra that if someone wants to write about it, then someone wants to read it. That is why we don’t provide guidance on the lists or recommendations you write, go crazy and write about what you love."

The article failed AfC twice for these same issues. It has been essentially untouched since it was finally accepted in August 2019. It was written and has been edited by basically one user, who likely has a COI: Liveatthesummit (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)

That's it. That's the AfD. If this article doesn't deserve deletion, then I'm honestly not sure what would. Shibbolethink ( ) 03:50, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete as doesn't meet WP:BIO. Sources currently do not meet WP:RS and I cannot find anything else published about him. However - I do not think that it is appropriate for the nominator to bring up a living subject's spiritual beliefs to further their point and would suggest Shibbolethink deletes these. Wikipedia has many pages on mediums. Vladimir.copic (talk) 08:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
    • done. I honestly did not think about it that way, I agree there are absolutely lots and lots of notable mediums. I simply wanted to describe the subject and his connection to the promotional sources. But now I see what you mean, and have struck that content accordingly.—Shibbolethink ( ) 09:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete No evidence of any notability. Cant see this as anything other than a vanity article in all probability createted either by the subject or a shill.TheLongTone (talk) 11:42, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Max Coyne[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Notability is not conferred by having a street named after you. Lettlerhellocontribs 23:25, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete - no sources available (at least on the internet). Part of me wonders whether this is a hoax (and a 16 year old one at that) but I suppose anyone who is interested enough can either reach out to someone in the local authorities at Bordeaux, who can explain the origin of the name's usage for the street, or check some library which has information on French local heroes. Tube·of·Light 06:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: agree with all above. FiddleheadLady (talk) 17:09, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: No sources in the article, search in google found nothing. While his action certainly comes across as heroic, not reliable sources identify it. At the time of this event there was no internet so if there is newspaper or other sources that emerge or are added to the page meeting WP:RS guidelines a new page can be created. CosmicNotes (talk) 01:12, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Lawrence Rowntree[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. A soldier, one of many, who unfortunately died in WW1. Lettlerhellocontribs 23:14, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete fails WP:BASIC. Mztourist (talk) 03:08, 4 August 2021 (UTC) Changed to Weak Keep given new sources Mztourist (talk) 08:42, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as meeting the general notability guideline. The subject has been covered in Medicine in First World War Europe: Soldiers, Medics, Pacifists; The Times; Rowntrees: The Early History; and the York Press. Sdrqaz (talk) 03:26, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Please add those in so that we can assess them. Rowntrees doesn't sound like its secondary. Mztourist (talk) 15:28, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Here are some sources that were mentioned: Rowntrees: The Early History, Friends Intelligencer, University of York... He is mostly known for dying and having famous parents, but his journals are part of a significant museum exhibit. FiddleheadLady (talk) 17:08, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
In addition, Medicine in First World War Europe, The Times, The York Press. Rowntree was a conscientious objector from a Quaker family (from what I can see, even going on the battlefield was an unusual step). The Rowntrees source was written by a historian this year, so I'd consider it secondary. I'll add the sources into the article, but thought I'd respond here first. Sdrqaz (talk) 17:18, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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  • Weak Keep I think there is a case for keeping this, especially with the additional sources noted above. I might feel more strongly if there was more emphasis in the article about the legacy of his correspondence and diaries, which are the real focus of much of what is written about him. LizardJr8 (talk) 22:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep The article needs expanding (especially re legacy), but is strongly notable and per WP:ATD "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 21:45, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep agree per above. VocalIndia (talk) 04:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Michael Sean Winters[edit]

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No third party talks about him, so he has no notability. The uscatholic.org link is not a third party, it is Winters' biography because he is one of the authors who published on the website. Veverve (talk) 17:33, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • His two books are widely held in libraries as shown here, not voting yet Atlantic306 (talk) 23:23, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Ron White (memory expert)[edit]

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Subject lacks sustained in depth coverage. Fails WP:SIGCOV. 4meter4 (talk) 14:36, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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Khoi Dao[edit]

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Does not meet GNG, nor BLP. No reliable sources provided; page created by blocked editor. Whiteguru (talk) 11:12, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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Ryan Rider[edit]

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of a radio personality, not properly referenced as passing our notability criteria for radio personalities. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they have jobs -- the notability test requires externally validated evidence of significance, such as notable awards and/or the reception of significant coverage in media independent of oneself. But the notability claim here is that he exists, and the sourcing is entirely primary source content on the self-published website of his own (former) employer rather than any evidence of independent coverage. Bearcat (talk) 07:43, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • delete per WP:NJOURNALIST, there is nothing written about him in RS and no indication of any of the four criteria. --hroest 20:18, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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Paul Hunn[edit]

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WP:BLP of a person with no properly sourced claim to passing our inclusion standards. The notability claim on offer here is that he holds a Guinness World Record for the loudest known burp, sourced only to the Guinness website -- but holding a Guinness record for some random silly thing is not an automatic inclusion freebie in the absence of a WP:GNG-worthy volume of reliable source media coverage about him and his achievement. Guinness liberally hands out records for literally any inconsequential thing somebody deigns to contact them about, but an encyclopedia needs to see a reason why anybody ought to care. Bearcat (talk) 05:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep Records for random silly things are regularly in the news. Right now, our own ITN is headed by a new record for the women's hop, skip and jump, for example. And then there's all the other silly Olympic sports for which there is strong competition but the winner there must be solo synchronised swimming! The subject in this case has attracted lots of continuing coverage over the years for their repeated record setting – see the BBC or Guardian, for example. There's a lot more coverage to be found by browsing the search links above and so it's clear that WP:BEFORE hasn't been done and WP:NEXIST applies. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete, the coverage is trivial. The comparison to Olympic Games watched by millions of viewers is probably meant as a joke? Geschichte (talk) 14:01, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Completely and utterly non-notable. The idea that he is notable through holding a Guinness record would only apply if Guinness still kept the standards it did in the McWhirters' day (and no I don't endorse their politics!) but we all know that it doesn't. If it did, someone's being cited by Guinness probably would make them notable for Wikipedia, but it doesn't and that's that. To cite a silly season article, in however reliable a source, tells its own story. Should note that even 15 years ago, when our standards were much lower, two out of three contributors wanted the article to be merged with another. No excuses now. RobinCarmody (talk) 19:35, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. non-notable based on a single source. Should there be other sources, creator can add for review. Peter303x (talk) 23:47, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Guinness "records" mean absolutely nothing, just pay them a few thousand and they'll give you whatever record you want. This is just some random guy with no claim to notability and no significant coverage. Mlb96 (talk) 03:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep for reasons cited above. Lots of sources out there. 7&6=thirteen () 18:17, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete/redirect to Burping#Contest, which already mention the key details. A trivial Guinness record is not exactly notability, even with some human-interest stories related to it. Reywas92Talk 20:50, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per the WP:SUSTAINED coverage shared by Andrew Davidson. Articles in BBC News and The Guardian is enough to pass WP:GNG imo. Two votes above appear to ignore Andrew's comment and only focus on the present article, not the sources available elsewhere. NemesisAT (talk) 00:17, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Burping#Contest as per Reywas92 . I am not sure if the coverage quoted by Andrew Davidson really works as asserting notability for an encyclopaedia as the BBC link is not from the main news website but actually on the Newsround website, which is a childrens' news programme that often covers events of interest to children which would not pass WP:GNG, and the Guardian article is marked as part of the 'silly season', where strange events that would not normally be considered notable enough for inclusion in a newspaper are covered during slow periods. pinktoebeans (talk) 11:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Ian A. M. Fuller[edit]

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No indication of notability as an individual. References are not enough to prove notability of the subject. Fails WP:NAUTHOR, WP:GNG DMySon (talk) 05:36, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • weak-keep but it's a tricky one. Breeding freshwater catfish is a niche hobby, but quite a large niche so far as its occupiers are concerned, and clearly Fuller is a big fish in the pond he's decided to cultivate. The trouble is, if your area is niche, it will only get published in niche places, so a person like Fuller is never going to appear in the Times or Guardian, it's always going to be in WeirdFishMagazine and CoryBreedersMag or wherever. I'd go for a weak-keep because (1) he's had a species named after him, which is quite an accolade; (2) it's impossible to find any website or fish magazine mentioning Corydoras without it mentioning Fuller's name (i.e. there are no independent sources because anyone who knows anything about Corydoras is a friend of Fuller's, but this very fact argues his relevance, if we consider freshwater catfish breeding to be notable); and (3) the alternatives of merging into Corydoras generally or Corydoras fulleri would unbalance those articles by putting too much Fuller-information into what should have been a Fish-article. I don't think Fuller is going to be easy to classify using WP's normal notability guidelines, because he's not quite a businessman, not quite an author, and not quite an academic; he's occupying a unique spot with a foot (fin?) in each. Elemimele (talk) 11:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Clearly fails WP:ANYBIO. KidAdSPEAK 00:29, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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Vinayak Dev[edit]

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Sockpuppet creation. Subject did exist, but contents of article is fabricated from the sources. None of the text matches the attributions. Possibly can be cleaned up and would be willing to withdraw the nomination, but should not be in main space in present condition since bordering on hoax. I don't believe draftifying is appropriate here (not the purpose of draft space, misuses AfC and the sockpuppet creator is indef blocked). Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:39, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete: Yes, there is misleading material in there, in summary, a vandalised account. Third reference gives quite a bit of information and validates some material. The Accession section is part BS. Fly in the sky, delete it. --Whiteguru (talk) 01:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete - I accepted this draft, and either did not know or did not notice that the creator was a sockpuppet. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment If he was a real ruler of a kingdom, he passes WP:NPOL. Source can be found in Hindi language. We should wait more comments form other editors who has knowledge on the History of Suryavansh Sankara dynasty. VocalIndia (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment It might not be a good idea to wait, per WP:TNT. Geschichte (talk) 14:33, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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Amotz Plessner[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG, especially significant coverage. Since closing of the previous discussion, which resulted in delete, no significant coverage could be presented. Throast (talk | contribs) 23:28, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

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Abhilash Shetty[edit]

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Not major films directed by the subject, fails WP:NACTOR. Unable to find siginificant references except one The Times of India. Fails WP:GNG. GermanKity (talk) 08:04, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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@GermanKity: Hi, I have added the few more references now, which are the leading newspapers from India. Koli Taal is a major film which created a buzz in Kannada film industry and also in India.

  • Keep: There are lot of references regarding him and his film, all cited. Leading Indian news papers like The Times of India, TimesNow, Deccan Herald and The Hindu have an articles on Abhilash Shetty and his film Koli Taal.
    • Please note that above comment is from the page creator (user:TridentWiki1289). GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 18:20, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Per nom. Page was created by user:TridentWiki1289, who had made edits here and on the movie this person made - is a single-purpose user. Seems to me that this is a naked attempt at self-promotion. GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 18:20, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete, as this does appear on the surface to be an attempt at self-promotion. I am not seeing anything notable about this person. The citations in the article merely confirm the existence of this person and their "work", as well as some personal information without asserting sufficient notability. Bungle (talkcontribs) 08:22, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
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Meg Johnson (disambiguation)[edit]

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Per WP:ONEOTHER; no other Meg Johnsons to add to this page. – DarkGlow • 22:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment there is a Megan Johnson and various people on Margaret Johnson (disambiguation), maybe merge with that DAB? User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 21:03, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
    • Wait, Margaret would be "Maggie", not "Meg", at least most of the time. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 21:08, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep Margaret has been shortened to lots of things over the years, including Meg, and different usages ni different places. Definitely deserves a listing. There was also an entry that hadn't been added, which I have now done, so it is 3 Megs, and a Megan and Margaret in the see also. 3 valid entries plus 2 valid see alsos is enough to meet the guidelnies - and dabs are cheap. No advantages to readers to deleting this. Boleyn (talk) 07:32, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as it stands. I would move the actress to a disambiguated title, given the relative obscurity of the subject. BD2412 T 21:02, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Philippe Couvreur[edit]

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I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 19:01, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete The article reads like a promotional bio writeup than an article which establishes why he is a notable jurist.TH1980 (talk) 14:52, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
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  • Move to draft. There are hints towards potential avenues of notability - a substantial list of publications and teaching at high-level institutions - but a Google Scholar search does not indicate that the subject is well-cited. I would provide an opportunity for improvement, but delete if it is not substantially forthcoming. BD2412 T 21:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Lopamudra R[edit]

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Non-notable poet, fails WP:BIO. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 19:12, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep: There are a stack of awards, all cited, an English-language newspaper article in the Deccan Chronicle and more in non-English sources. Furius (talk) 11:08, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: Verified all citation link. All are relevant and no link to wiki sites. Refer external link provided for more details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajeshb n (talkcontribs) 05:02, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete unless someone can actually present sources here (right at this discussion) that helps pass WP:Creative. There is an NPOV alert when you read prestigious awards. Awards list (as long as it might be) doesn't grant notability. There is a YUVA PURASKAR from Sahitya Akadmi which is the only relevant award from my perspective here. Unless proper reception of work is not found and we will remain stuck with sources that say such and such award was given, my stand remains with Delete. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:51, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. According to WP:ANYBIO, awards do, in fact, grant notability, but only if they're "well-known and significant." Are any of her awards well-known and significant? None of them link to Wikipedia articles about the award, which isn't encouraging. pburka (talk) 21:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Wiki pages don't prove notability, so aren't really relevant here Furius (talk) 19:01, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: Citations are valid. Lopa is a well known writer and a translator in Kerala. She has won awards from Kendra Sahitya Academey and Kerala. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishawish (talkcontribs) 17:53, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep - A large number of reliable sources show notability, as do multiple awards, including at least one academic award, per links added above by another editor. The subject easily meets WP:GNG and passes WP:BIO. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 19:47, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep per ANYBIO, her awards and the explanation of their significance by Furius. In my opinion, all the arguments to keep have been policy-oriented, except perhaps Rajesh's; unsure what !votes the relister was referring to. pburka (talk) 20:13, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Rick Banks[edit]

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Has some coverage, but doesn't meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 15:16, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

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Brad Nichol[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:BIO or WP:GNG Boleyn (talk) 21:19, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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Mai Yoshida[edit]

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Doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY Boleyn (talk) 21:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete I saw very little coverage in an English search. --- Possibly 09:33, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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  • Comment As this person is Japanese and works in Japan, any coverage is very likely to be in Japanese only, it is important that a search be conducted in that language before a decision is finalized. CosmicNotes (talk) 22:36, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete The Japanese page (which is poorly sourced) describes her as working in the UK, as does a Japanese film festival which lists her as a British entry, so there should be English language material. The interview in French is a blog entry. Two of the three links are to the SAME festival recommended entry list, which in itself doesn't establish notability, as it's not any kind of in depth coverage. Searches for her name in English and Japanese and variously "Last snow before spring", "Alice's Cave", "Fish's wish" (Her three main works listed on the ja page) bring up fewer than ten hits each. I wish her all the best in her career, but she needs more than this to get a wiki page.OsFish (talk) 08:32, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Roland Stevenson[edit]

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Has been in CAT:NN's backlog for 12 years! No indication of notability. Boleyn (talk) 21:39, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete There is a British researcher, who was either a linguist or an anthropologist, named Roland C. Stevenson. He "was trained both in linguistics and social anthropology , having studied in the University of London at King's College , the School of..." according to a Google books snippet. There are a lot of Google books sources for Roland C. Stevenson. For this one, the Chilean Roland without the "C", I found and added a couple of namecheck sources, but there is not really much out there. --- Possibly 09:18, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
There's a short documentary on him on Youtube, which shows him painting mostly naked women on horses. That's the only 'in-depth' source I saw. --- Possibly 09:44, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep Having seen the Portuguese language article, it seems the subject may be notable. I'm not proficient enough in that language, however, to make a translation and add the sources there are. --Kuatrero (talk) 20:11, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep - I found more sources and expanded the article after using Google's translation button. The subject received numerous awards and is well known for his archaeological work as well as his artwork. There is clear evidence of notability. Sources can be found by searching just his first and last name. Passes WP:BIO and meets WP:GNG. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 18:40, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
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Adragon De Mello[edit]

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BLP concerns. The coverage is largely about Agustin De Mello (the article subject's father) and his treatment of his son. All indications indicate Adragon is a low-profile individual. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 23:26, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep While it is impossible to separate the influence of his father in the early part of his life, the sources cited run from 1988 to 2007, indicating sustained interest over nearly 20 years. The subject was high-profile enough in the late 1980s to be discussed in the context of Gifted education. WP:LOWKEY does mention Profile change over time, allowing that someone can be low profile now, but was much higher-profile early in life. Autarch (talk) 14:44, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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Slavko Peleh[edit]

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Single-sourced article that fails WP:BIO. WaddlesJP13 (talk | contributions) 19:12, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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Ahmed Bullock[edit]

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Lacks notability. Very few reliable, independent sources, and those mention him in passing.[30][31] (Oh, and obviously not 19th-century). Fram (talk) 10:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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I think that "first English Imam of Oxford" certainly makes them notable.
(Oh, and obviously not 19th-century) -- clearly an error, but hey, it's a Wiki, feel free to fix it. --Masssly (talk) 11:00, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Well, as long as reliable sources don't think that that is a notable claim, then it doesn't matter what you or I think. For me it's trivia, for you it's notable, neither are of any importance in an AfD. Fram (talk) 11:41, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete being the first head of a mosque in a particular city is not at all close to being a sign of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:14, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Deshabandu Tennakoon[edit]

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Fails WP:ANYBIO, lacks significant coverage (not mentions in passing) in multiple independent secondary sources. Noting Facebook is not an acceptable or reliable source. Dan arndt (talk) 02:34, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete: Article fails WP:GNG. Absolutely no data nor biographical information. --Whiteguru (talk) 03:49, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Head of the police in one of the nine provinces of Sri Lanka. Passes WP:GNG. Notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment, the position is not automatically notable and all the references are a series of mentions in passing - there are no biographical details about the individual. Dan arndt (talk) 02:06, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
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Akira Takahashi (animator)[edit]

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Fails BASIC, ANYBIO, and ENTERTAINER. Sources are primary, not independent, or passing mentions. There is no substantial coverage in independent secondary sources. This is probably a fan page. Steve Quinn (talk) 02:52, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

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The Third Terrorist[edit]

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As part of a major revamp of KFOR-TV, I came across this article about a 2005 book promoting an alleged conspiracy around the Oklahoma City bombing. I am struggling to find notability in reliable sources. It is mentioned in two sources, https://web.archive.org/web/20120924232653/http://www.laweekly.com/2005-07-07/news/the-rohrabacher-test/ and https://www.patriotledger.com/article/20110311/NEWS/303119753 , but I am struck by the lack of coverage at publication in reliable sources. Most of the news materials I can find in the 2004-05 material are either from known non-reliable sources, notably WND (which was involved in the book's publication and apparently split from the publisher mid-process), or are actually letters to the editor.

I do not believe that the author is independently notable, either, and nominate her for deletion:

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  • Comment: I'm running into the same issue. There's some mild mention in relation to the politician using it in her report but not any coverage for the book itself. I'm leaning towards deletion, given that there's not really anything major out there about the book. No opinion on the author, but if she's deemed notable I'd recommend a selective merge in her article. The book article definitely needs some serious pruning. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 00:28, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: My stance on both articles is pretty much dependent on if there's a way to get more reliable sources. Chances are it's difficult because of the book promulgating a conspiracy theory, thus making it very difficult for any serious mainstream coverage... which may also be highly negative to begin with. If it's possible, then I'm keep, otherwise I'm in favor of delete. Nathan Obral • he/him • tc • 19:36, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Neutral: but if deleted merge with Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy theories. -47.33.186.77 (talk) 17:19, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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  • Weak Keep - part of the problem here is WP:BEFORE because any diligent editor conducting a search is likely to hit the same wall I did; that a search for "the third terrorist" inevitably brings up myriad sources that reference other events that involve more than two terrorists, such that one is described as "the third terrorist". But I managed to find the following:
  • It rates a mention here by John F. Lehman in the context of the 9/11 Commission. It doesn't rise to the leverage of significant coverage, but the idea of notability is - essentially - that people are talking about it. Its a book about a terrorist attack being referenced by someone like that in a context like that.
  • It gets name-checked here though I would say that's not really significant coverage either. It is, however, a reliable source and - again - there are people talking about it (other than the author and publishers), and in the context of an entirely unrelated event some 15+ years later.
  • This article is focused on the book and an individual discussed therein, but 7 years after the book was published. Along with the JPC article we're getting toward WP:LASTING in my view.
  • It is referenced in this dissertation. While it is academic in nature, it is just one PhD student's submission so how much weight it should be given is a matter for debate.
I'm not entirely convinced. I guess I'm defaulting to inclusionism because multiple, independent sources have referenced the work long after it was created, and not in sensationalist terms. They certainly aren't trying to sell copies. Stlwart111 12:24, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
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The result was keep based on additional sources found. RL0919 (talk) 20:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Paul Williams (comedian)[edit]

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This draft is declined recently by Timtrent. I think the creator should follow the draft process. For me the subject is a non notable musicians that fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO GermanKity (talk) 17:39, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment: It is someone's right to create in article space. It is how it used to be. Draft:Paul Williams (comedian) exists, so draftification is pointless. So please let us treat this article on its merits. Thank you for the ping. I shall remain neutral FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 18:03, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
    It is not the exact same wording that was deleted. I wondered if it was a copy and paste move, but I think not. We must treat the new article on its own merits FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 18:22, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
    Hello, I'm the author of the article; I wasn't aware of the draft. I'd like to know what should I do to keep this from being deleted. HATSAREMACHINES 01:54, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
    Hi HATSAREMACHINES, the problem is not you or your page, at first glance it looks fine. The problem is the possible lack of detailed mentions of Paul Williams in reliable sources. Have a quick look at WP:NBIO. There are two ways forward, make arguments using Wikipedia's guidelines or find as much reliable detailed coverage of Paul Williams as you can. Don't try to be too clever and don't burn yourself out on any one thing. Have a look here to see how these things sometimes go. Dushan Jugum (talk) 19:57, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Hello, I'm the author of the other recent draft - we both wrote an article in the same week unbeknownst to the other! (I only found this one through scouring through Twitter today.) This clearly has extra info (as well as some of the same) but I think what we might need to do is reorientate the article(s) towards his comedy work since that is primary? In comedy he has been nominated for a major national award and has a leading role in a mainstream television programme that is on its second series; there will need to be a page at some point as there is increasing demand for info about him due to the international interest in Taskmaster. [I am based in UK and Hats in Brazil even though this is a NZ-based comedian.] It's just how we substantiate that, given that most articles will be entertainment review type sources? Thanks if you can help! CursoryBethany, 22:35, 27 July 2021
  • Delete Thanks for clearing that up CursoryBethany it all looks above board on the face of it. However, Paul Williams does not pass WP:ENT. WP:GNG is a little less clear, it could just be that my searching has been hampered by his common name. But with what I can find and what is on the page I would say he does not meet it. Dushan Jugum (talk) 03:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Just adding some refs that may be useful [32][33][34] Dushan Jugum (talk) 04:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Well, what would you say is the number of sources for it to be considered 'significant coverage'? Because I'd argue that what I put should be enough. It's not like he'll have the same media coverage as a comedian based on the UK or the US. And I found some interviews but I was told that they're not reliable, even though I've seen other articles using interviews. In terms of WP:ENT, he's had multiple significant roles across those platforms, he was even nominated for awards. And Taskmaster may be his first major role on television, but it's an international programme, with multiple versions and a broad fan base. His name is even included on the show's article.

HATSAREMACHINES 10:36, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

  • WP:3REFS "In order to show that a subject covered in many news reports is notable, three independent references from three different time periods, would in general successfully rebut notability challenges." That is just so far removed from what I think normally happens here. I will remove my vote as that is the best info we have right now, do not be surprised if it comes back when more a knowledgeable editor sets us right. Dushan Jugum (talk) 11:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
    Thank you for your contribution to the article, Dushan Jugum. CursoryBethany and I will be sure to look further for references in the meantime. We'll be waiting for another editor's opinion.

HATSAREMACHINES 22:27, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

  • I enjoyed the breadth of the new references in the article! (thanks to the other writers). I have reorganised the text to focus on his main achievements as a comedian, such as his writing role in Taskmaster and its status as an international programme. Does it need anything more to avoid deletion?

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Fawaz Jaleel[edit]

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non notable author article accepted by a sock. Previously moved into draft by Praxidicae and deleted by discospinster. Still article is lacking significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR. GermanKity (talk) 17:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

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Dear editor,

I created this page based on news articles and other credible sources online. The subject in the story is a verified personality on social media (Facebook) and is a person with a notable presence in India. However, I would love to improve my wikipedia editing skills and would request you to suggest improvement techniques to make the article better. I humbly request you to reconsider the deletion suggestion

Wikienthuindian (talk) 19:03, 26 July 2021 (UTC)


  • Delete At first, the article deceives. But on closer inspection, almost all sources carry disclaimer like brand media (mid-day), brand desk content (Zee), Featured content (DNA). There is no reception of the work. The Hindu article is a single paragraph description of the book with zero independent commentary on the book. So while it is sourcing what could be considered reliable sources, they are clearly not independent. Wikienthuindian, being verified person on Facebook or anywhere else is not an indication of notability at Wikipedia. Can you provide any sources that are truly independently written? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:22, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


Dear Nomadicghumakkad

I wasn't aware of the featured bit honestly. I thank you for the new learning. These are independently written I articles I could find quickly

https://www.edexlive.com/people/2021/jan/29/this-young-authors-political-potboiler-will-give-you-a-taste-of-indias-last-quarter-decade-intrig-17765.html https://www.gdnonline.com/Details/923874/Thrilling-new-chapter-of-a-novel-ambition. ( This I saw on the print version too - Bahrain's leading newspaper as this subject has some connection with the country ) https://newsable.asianetnews.com/india/between-left-and-right-in-politics-fawaz-jaleel-is-an-outsider-qqiwcx (India News section)

I will look for more if you need me to. Kindly keep giving your feedback. I am working on another article and your feedback will really help

Wikienthuindian (talk) 08:48, 29 July 2021 (UTC)


  • Comment Hi Wikienthuindian. Edex and GDN - I honestly don't consider them a reliable source. People have argued in favour of EdEX since it's part of New Indian Express but I find it bloggish and not journalistic. The Aisa-net review - any reviews that ONLY praises the book are dubious. Yes, I will be happy to assist you on other articles. Sorry you have to go through this unpleasant experience on this one. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 03:35, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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Ali Faik Zaghloul[edit]

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Essentially an unverified article as the only source is a dead link with no publication details identifying the source or author. I was unable to find sources in a WP:BEFORE search, but granted foreign language sources may exist outside of my expertise in locating. Arguments from the first AFD 13 years ago about future editing don't seem to have panned out in reality. Fails WP:SIGCOV. 4meter4 (talk) 12:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

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Ramzi Najjar (author)[edit]

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Article about an author that doesn't satisfy WP:NAUTHOR. Article also seems to have been previously created. Sources are mere PR pieces. Riteboke (talk) 10:55, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • 'Keep for now. There is a lot of coverage to sift through and we have two articles with same history. Maybe redirect to main article where history is present? Nevertheless, AfD is not a place, try WP:3O. 212.236.217.5 (talk) 13:52, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
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Les Mahoney[edit]

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This article seems very promotional and I don't think this person is notable; a lot of the references cited seem to be unreliable blogs wizzito | say hello! 23:51, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

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Nominator comment: In particular, a lot of the films he's starred in aren't even notable enough to have pages on WP. wizzito | say hello! 23:52, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • I wouldn't say this article is very promotional. The awards are mentioned, that's right, but there are also sources available ([35]). The citation style is horrible and has to be improved - no doubt. I would say as the article is not really up-to-date, it should be updated first and then it's easier to say sth about WP:NACTOR. So far: weak keep.Tec Tom (talk) 18:09, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • It needs work, but at least one of the sources looks OK to me. I would prefer it be tagged for improvement than deleted outright. Hanjaf1 (talk) 05:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
I've cleaned it up a bit, inlining the citations that weren't dead links. It's still marginal, but there might be newer links out there. Hanjaf1 (talk) 06:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Good job, Hanjaf1! Thank you. I've added some more information.Tec Tom (talk) 13:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete. After reviewing his IMDB, it seems like he is best known for acting in and directing non-notable b-movies. KidAdSPEAK 18:12, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Kwadwo Sheldon[edit]

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Non-notable Youtuber. Award-winning in this case implying the subject passing Youtube's 100,000 subscribers mark. nearlyevil665 10:40, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

@nearlyevil665, Kwadwo Sheldon is a very notable Ghanaian entity in the media space. He's won awards in Ghana and outside Ghana. What I created was just a stub and not basing my fact on his 100,000 Youtube subscribers. See more here --Jibodi (talk) 14:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete per nom. VocalIndia (talk) 11:07, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete only 5 citations that are hardly significant. Peter303x (talk) 21:52, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: Sources in the article seem reliable. He has received some coverage, albeit mostly from local media. Article needs to be expanded. Other than that, it's good enough to pass WP:GNG. ASTIG😎 (ICE TICE CUBE) 10:30, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Sneha Jain[edit]

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As in the article she seems to have done few major roles out of which it says Krishnadasi (2016 TV series) and Saath Nibhaana Saathiya 2 out of which I found coverages mentioning her only work Saath Nibhaana Saathiya 2 and Thus i failed to find the previous one's independent coverages which technically makes her fail Wikipedia:NACTOR hence we need more prominent refs to make her pass NACTOR, I would want other editors opinion on this via a clear consensus Suryabeej   talk 08:28, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

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  • Weak Keep: The personality having its popularity through the television shows. Major sources on Google are entertainment news websites. So, having doubts about Notability. Unsure if it can fulfil the Wikipedia:Notability. Iamrajdeepdas (talk) 04:59, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep: based on a google search I found several pages of news on her and she appears to be a major TV show star in India, with 200 episodes of one show. I have also added a few new sources. Peter303x (talk) 20:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)