User talk:Nigel Ish

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HMS Montrose photo

Hi there.

The photo postcard I uploaded of HMS Montrose was taken and produced by Abrahams (Abraham & Sons?) of Devonport. That company was based in Devonport, Plymouth in the early to mid 20th century. The item was part of my grandfather's personal belongings, having served on the Montrose during WWII, and was inherited by our family following his death.

I though the photo may have been of some historical interest. Never mind.

Regards Paul PZg666 (talk) 12:17, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

No matter what the historical impact the photo would have to be correctly licenced to use it on Wikipedia, and the upload did not indicate any licensing at all.Nigel Ish (talk) 13:21, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Note that the photo has now been nominated for deletion on Commons for essentially the same reason - to keep it someone will have to successfully argue that either the original copyright holder has released it under a suitably free licence or that copyright has expired.Nigel Ish (talk) 13:27, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

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Supermarine Baby

Hi Nigel Ish, I noticed that you undid a couple of edits I made just now. Without the 'ref=none' bit I get messages like 'Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFAndrewsMorgan2003.' Using the Harvard system for referencing (which I like) removes the error messages. Are you OK if I go ahead and change the formatting before continuing to add to the article? Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 08:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

It shouldn't be giving you these "error messages" as there are no harvnb etc calls at the moment.Nigel Ish (talk) 13:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For the great start to the list of ships on the Beira Patrol!! Buckshot06 (talk) 06:15, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Citation removal in Cessna Citation I

Howdy! I noticed you put back the USA Today citation that I removed from Cessna Citation I. The reason I removed the citation is that the crash has its own linked article, and the paragraph is simply a summary of basic information from 2021 Percy Priest Lake Cessna 501 Citation I/SP crash, all of which is properly sourced. I'm fully aware of WP:NOTSOURCE, but linked citations are generally not used in list-class summaries linked to other articles, such as the list of accidents and incidents involving commercial aircraft. Carguychris (talk) 17:00, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Lists still need to be sourced - WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not an adequate reason for having unsourced content.Nigel Ish (talk) 17:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

lets change to what can be source to reliable source

HMS Warwick (D25)

Your edits have improved things but comments are rude, unwarranted & you seem to enjoy undoing peoples work see comments above. Still & very politely, why do you not consider this page a "reliable source", particularly as it matches better with the crew complement?

http://hmscavalier.org.uk/casualtySearch.php?surname=&forenames=&ship=Warwick&page=1 Steve Bowen (talk) 10:34, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

The question should be why is it considered a reliable source - who is the author - are they a subject matter expert? What is the editorial control on the page? And as the source conflicts on the casualty numbers with proper published sources that have gone through editorial control (i.e. Kemp and English) it is entirely appropriate to use the sources that obviously meet WP:RS. (and it doesn't seem like a good idea to remove reliable sources in favour of unreliable sources. The whole page needs large scale rewriting as it is largely unsourced, with much that appears to be OR, which is common to many articles on similar warships.Nigel Ish (talk) 11:01, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

No the question is why do you not consider it reliable when you do the other - Really simple honest. As for OR, what isn't at some point Steve Bowen (talk)

Bismark

You need to check yor consensus Nigel, by my counting of the number of opponents to your "Scuttled" narrative, you're outnumbered. The consensus is that the Bismark was sunk. Lets stop pretending that you have a vested interest in historical accuracy. The Infobox is to summarise, in a word, what happened. The ship sunk. End of summary. If you want a section on the merits of sinking and scuttling, that's fine, but don't try and split hairs in the infoblox to take away from the men that were actually there, and lost their lives to sink that nazi ship. Be assured, I've been editing Wiki for over 10 years, and I'll edit this article for the next 10 if I have to so that Pro...'German' fanboys like you NEVER get your way.Finalreminder (talk) 19:17, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

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Minor edits

Sorry, but what difference does it make whether an edit is marked small or large? Before withdrawing an edit, regardless of its size, the withdrawer has a duty to check what has been changed, not to change it just because he feels like it. If the withdrawer withdrew the edit without checking the content of the change, then he has committed vandalism.Piotr Mikołajski (talk) 00:53, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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