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Articles to promote to good article..

Hello all, as you might know, there are a few articles, where there is a proposal to make them good articles. Unless someone opposes, I am planning to make Tropical Storm Arthur (2020), Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany, and Least weasel good articles. I will also close Singapore as not promoted. So, if you have any concerns, please leave them at the discussion page.--Eptalon (talk) 09:55, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

I have promoted the articles Singapore, Valéry Giscard d'Estaing,Tropical Storm Arthur (2020) and Least weasel to good articles. Congratulations to all those who contributed; also remember: If there are small issues that need fixing, please do. --Eptalon (talk) 20:55, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany hasn't been promoted yet, there are some odd citation template errors. --Eptalon (talk) 20:55, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

@Eptalon I will take care of those errors for the Anti-tobacco movement. It is #3 on my list this morning. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 15:50, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Eptalon Give me a couple of days to work on this. I looked at it today and it is a giant mess. All of those errors show different targets and I looked at them and sure as heck, they used the same ref name but they are all different URLs, so I will have to go through and re-do all of the references. I would say by late Thursday or Friday I should be done with it. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 23:17, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

*I am currently working on this* PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 15:45, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I did not have much success in fixing the error, so it will come down to re-doing all the citations. I will work on this some more tomorrow and should be able to complete it. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 23:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

It was just a duplicate reference. Removing the duplicate reference fixes it. Clicking help on the error will tell you how to fix it in the future. -Djsasso (talk) 16:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Georgia (US) vs Georgia (U.S. state)

Take a look at Category:People from Georgia (U.S. state). Some cats use Georgia (US). Should it be Georgia (U.S. state) or Georgia (US)? Or something different to that? --Ferien (talk) 18:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien When I look at the other cats for states I see Category:Florida and Category:California and they each have subcats under them. I do not see any with US state or anything after them, but then again, this was just a quick search. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 18:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: The reason why there is a (US) or (U.S. state) part after Georgia because there's also a country called Georgia so it is disambiguated to avoid confusion. --Ferien (talk) 18:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien Well that can be an issue because there are a lot of cities that exists in other states and some in other countries. Check here for Scranton. :) (I grew up 45 minutes NE of Scranton) PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 18:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: The one most known gets to keep the main name. For example with Birmingham, there is a pretty big city in Alabama called Birmingham but Birmingham is more populous and from a page views point of view, many more people are interested in reading about Birmingham, UK than Birmingham, Alabama. Back to Georgia though, do you think that the disambiguation should be changed (ie Georgia (U.S. state) or Georgia (country) moved to Georgia)? --Ferien (talk) 18:46, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ferien IMO disambiguation page. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 18:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok --Ferien (talk) 18:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

In these cases, let's match enwiki. --Auntof6 (talk) 20:36, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Enwiki have (U.S. state). As there doesn't seem to be a consensus against this (like I thought there might be as there were category redirects), I'll boldly move the categories soon. --Ferien (talk) 20:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

I have completed the category work. Note in the US (or U.S.) a full stop is used between U and S for U.S.. However when talking about it in the UK, we say US. I think WP:ENGVAR applies here. --Ferien (talk) 21:10, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

What's your evidence? The Oxford English Dictionary uses U.S.A. WP is pretty formal, and I would expect traditional typography on its content pages. We're not innovative, for sure: WP is very traditional in its format and typography. In cases like Georgia, I would always disambiguate on first usage. Later on, that established, one can use the simplified version. One always has to think of readers who are less educated or less familiar with the topic. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:41, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@Macdonald-ross: About the US/U.S. thing: On w:United States, U.S. is used but on w:United Kingdom, UK is used. I recall learning that we don't use full stops in between letters in abbreviations in British English. Also see this.

Also if we're going to disambiguate, I think we should do it fully. There are four settlements in the US called Georgia, + Georgia the state. A lot of the categories were called _ from Georgia (US) and whilst we know it's not going to be talking about one of those settlements, it's nicer if it's clearer. By the looks of it, enwiki have had these categories called (U.S. state) for a long time, and all the other categories over here were called (U.S. state). --Ferien (talk) 16:22, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

We have a MOS entry for this specific case en:MOS:USA. Granted its more for articles than category names. But in general in categories it should be U.S. state for consistancy. -Djsasso (talk) 16:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

iframe problem

I tried to add:

<iframe src="https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/UserProfile:Android_1123581321" style="height:800px;width:500px" title="Iframe Example"></iframe>

into my user page, but I have problems as Wikipedia doesn't support iframe.

Same goes for

<iframe src="https://intel-cpu.fandom.com/wiki/User:Android_1123581321" style="height:800px;width:500px" title="Iframe Example"></iframe>

--Safari 12243648 (talk) 07:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Safari 12243648: Do you have a question, or are you just letting us know? --Auntof6 (talk) 09:47, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6: iframe usually works on W3Schools, but not Wikipedia. Are there any alternatives to iframe. 79.67.17.238 (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC), updated 15:06, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

No, for obvious reasons we don't want you embedding other websites into this one. -Djsasso (talk) 02:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safari 12243648 (talk • contribs) 08:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

For one it would be a copyright violation, and secondly it would essentially be advertising another website. -Djsasso (talk) 14:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@Safari 12243648: Why are you interested in embedding the user page of Android 1123581321 on Fandom? A user with a similar username, Android 2113853211, has recently been globally locked after editing here and evading a global lock. --Ferien (talk) 14:50, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah he is blocked now anyway, he was Android 2113853211. -Djsasso (talk) 15:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

However, Android 1123581321 is not blocked on Minecraft Wiki and Intel Wiki (see https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/UserProfile:Android_1123581321 and https://intel-cpu.fandom.com/wiki/User:Android_1123581321 respectively). 164.134.0.156 (talk) 07:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

On Intel Wiki, Android 1123581321 is an administrator and bureaucrat (https://intel-cpu.fandom.com/wiki/Special:UserRights?user=Android+1123581321) and he made 93 edits on Intel Wiki. 164.134.0.156 (talk) 07:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

This is a screenshot of Minecraft Wiki user Android 1123581321 on W3Schools iframe. 164.134.0.156 (talk) 07:36, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
See https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/UserProfile:Android_1123581321 164.134.0.156 (talk) 07:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Colors for templates

Hello, so I noticed a user earlier created Template:Christian_Peoples_Alliance/meta/color and the colors fall outside of ADA accessible for those with vision problems and colorblind. They brought up that Category:United_Kingdom_political_party_colour_templates uses a lot of colors like that. I spot checked a few and they do indeed look like that. I am asking for feedback since this would affect project wide articles. The guideline for colors is at WP:Manual_of_Style#Color_coding and of course VisCheck is still down. For the template I mentioned, I ran it through Toptal Color Blind Filter and those with Tritanopia (red/yellow blindness) see it as a brown box. Thanks in advance. PDL^{Talk to me!}_{OMG, What have I done?} 16:43, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Despite the examples on the page, those templates are never displayed like that when used. The template is just a colour code that can be implemented on a page, the examples are to give context to the shade. When used on an actual page they just show the purple colour (in this case) as a line at the beginning of a row so it isn't really an issue. The enthusiasm is great and all, but I really think you need to cool down a bit on warning users on things when you don't really know what you are talking about. Especially when it comes to putting templated warnings on user pages. Totally understand you are looking to help, but you have some real competence issues that are a bit concerning especially since you have been blocked on en.wiki for WP:CIR reasons. Frankly due to the block on en.wiki and the repeated issues that various people keep bringing up on your talk page you have already violated one strike. I highly suggest just sticking to editing articles and not trying to fix code related things and/or warning other users about things they may or may not have done wrong so that we don't have to actually act on the one strike situation. -Djsasso (talk) 02:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021Read the full newsletter

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Welcome to the first issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code, and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

Please note, this is the first issue of UCoC Newsletter which is delivered to all subscribers and projects as an announcement of the initiative. If you want the future issues delivered to your talk page, village pumps, or any specific pages you find appropriate, you need to subscribe here.

You can help us by translating the newsletter issues in your languages to spread the news and create awareness of the new conduct to keep our beloved community safe for all of us. Please add your name here if you want to be informed of the draft issue to translate beforehand. Your participation is valued and appreciated.

• Affiliate consultations – Wikimedia affiliates of all sizes and types were invited to participate in the UCoC affiliate consultation throughout March and April 2021. (continue reading)
• 2021 key consultations – The Wikimedia Foundation held enforcement key questions consultations in April and May 2021 to request input about UCoC enforcement from the broader Wikimedia community. (continue reading)
• Roundtable discussions – The UCoC facilitation team hosted two 90-minute-long public roundtable discussions in May 2021 to discuss UCoC key enforcement questions. More conversations are scheduled. (continue reading)
• Phase 2 drafting committee – The drafting committee for the phase 2 of the UCoC started their work on 12 May 2021. Read more about their work. (continue reading)
• Diff blogs – The UCoC facilitators wrote several blog posts based on interesting findings and insights from each community during local project consultation that took place in the 1st quarter of 2021. (continue reading)

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Can anyone please have a look

I've created a draft about this composer User:Suryabeej/Himesh Reshammiya I wanted to know if this is good enough to be moved to the mainspace? Thanks Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 11:03, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

@Suryabeej: My comments:

• Userspace drafts don't need the under-construction template.
• It will need categories in mainspace.
• Except in quotes and proper names, the term movie should be used instead of film.
• Use sentence case for headings, per WP:MOS#Wording.
• In the text, there are capitalized words that should be in lower case.
• Some of the sentences should be divided into shorter ones so that they are simpler.
• Some of the language could be simpler, too. For example, instead of "He made his acting debut with the film," you could say "His first movie as an actor was".

Hope that helps. --Auntof6 (talk) 14:35, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

@Auntof6 Hello and thank you so much for the guidance I have made changes accordingly, Kindly have a look at the draft if its ready to be moved to the mainspace. Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 13:42, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

WPCleaner

Is anyone's WPCleaner working because mine is saying "An error occurred: URL access returned Forbidden". Any fixes? MeritedElm63160 (talk) 00:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

@MeritedElm63160: I have just installed it brand new on another computer and I'm not getting any issues. What are you trying to do? --Ferien (talk) 15:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

I tried to log in, but it showed that error. MeritedElm63160 (talk) 15:49, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@MeritedElm63160: Hmm, ok. Have you installed WPCleaner recently? Have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling? That might fix the issue. --Ferien (talk) 15:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but it kept showing that error. MeritedElm63160 (talk) 15:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I'm not sure what's causing that issue then. --Ferien (talk) 23:19, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

I fixed it :) Looks like the settings caused the problem. All I did was press 'Restore Defaults' and it worked. MeritedElm63160 (talk) 03:22, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikimania 2021: Individual Program Submissions

Dear all,

Wikimania 2021 will be hosted virtually for the first time in the event's 15-year history. Since there is no in-person host, the event is being organized by a diverse group of Wikimedia volunteers that form the Core Organizing Team (COT) for Wikimania 2021.

Event Program - Individuals or a group of individuals can submit their session proposals to be a part of the program. There will be translation support for sessions provided in a number of languages. See more information here.

Below are some links to guide you through;

• Program Submissions
• Session Submission Guidelines
• FAQ

Please note that the deadline for submission is 18th June 2021.

Announcements- To keep up to date with the developments around Wikimania, the COT sends out weekly updates. You can view them in the Announcement section here.

Office Hour - If you are left with questions, the COT will be hosting some office hours (in multiple languages), in multiple time-zones, to answer any programming questions that you might have. Details can be found here.

Best regards,

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:18, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

On behalf of Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team

fantastic day

this is a great opportunity for me to use this app and it is not that hard to enter or search the topic, tittle and headline to my point of view to yours it's more safe , faster and reachedable to. use this app compare to others. thanks 💕💕 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.123.137.177 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Please provide input here or on Meta and during an upcoming Global Conversation on 26-27 June 2021 about the Movement Charter drafting committee

Hello, I'm one of the Movement Strategy and Governance facilitators working on community engagement for the Movement Charter initiative.

We're inviting input widely from users of many projects about the upcoming formation of the Movement Charter drafting committee. You can provide feedback here, at the central discussion on Meta, at other ongoing local conversations, and during a Global Conversation upcoming on 26 and 27 June 2021.

“	The Movement Charter drafting committee is expected to work as a diverse and skilled team of about 15 members for several months. They should receive regular support from experts, regular community reviews, and opportunities for training and an allowance to offset costs. When the draft is completed, the committee will oversee a wide community ratification process.	”
—Creating the drafting committee

Further details and context about these questions is on Meta along with a recently-updated overview of the Movement Charter initiative. Feel free to ask questions, and add additional sub-sections as needed for other areas of interest about this topic.

If contributors are interested in participating in a call about these topics ahead of the Global Conversation on 26 and 27 June, please let me know. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 17:10, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

The three questions are:

1. What composition should the committee have in terms of movement roles, gender, regions, affiliations and other diversity factors?

2. What is the best process to select the committee members to form a competent and diverse team?

3. How much dedication is it reasonable to expect from committee members, in terms of hours per week and months of work?

Open proxies

Hi.

Both 122.155.174.77 and 122.155.174.76 belong to open proxies (NordVPN servers in Thailand).

Yes, I have used both to edit Wikipedia, but I did so to do good. Other people might not.

Please keep my contributions, but please ban those two IP addresses from making any further changes.

Thank you.--122.155.174.77 (talk) 00:50, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. -Djsasso (talk) 11:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #2

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When newcomers had the Reply tool and tried to post on a talk page, they were more successful at posting a comment. (Source)

Earlier this year, the Editing team ran a large study of the Reply Tool. The main goal was to find out whether the Reply Tool helped newer editors communicate on wiki. The second goal was to see whether the comments that newer editors made using the tool needed to be reverted more frequently than comments newer editors made with the existing wikitext page editor.

The key results were:

• Newer editors who had automatic ("default on") access to the Reply tool were more likely to post a comment on a talk page.
• The comments that newer editors made with the Reply Tool were also less likely to be reverted than the comments that newer editors made with page editing.

These results give the Editing team confidence that the tool is helpful.

Looking ahead

The team is planning to make the Reply tool available to everyone as an opt-out preference in the coming months. This has already happened at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias.

The next step is to resolve a technical challenge. Then, they will deploy the Reply tool first to the Wikipedias that participated in the study. After that, they will deploy it, in stages, to the other Wikipedias and all WMF-hosted wikis.

You can turn on "Discussion tools" in Beta Features now. After you get the Reply tool, you can change your preferences at any time in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.

–Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

14:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)